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Turnip Root

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What are some games that you wish were never created?  Think about games that you don't just think are bad but also had a long lasting negative impact due to what they represent.

A few that come to mind.

Kane and Lynch-This piece of crap game is the reason we never saw a sequel to the masterpiece Freedom Fighters!  IO said they were making a Freedom Fighters 2 but then at the last minute said they wanted to focus on a new intellectual property and not only did it totally suck, but it was also responsible for the firing of Jeff Gerstmann just because he wasn't afraid to call it out as the worthless piece of crap that it is.
It's also the reason it's been so long since we've seen a new Hitman game.  Fortunately though it looks like after the disastrous reception of Kane and Lynch 2 that IO has finally pulled their head out of their buttcracks and are finally back to work on a new Hitman game.

World of Warcraft-The game reinforces a lot of negative stereotypes about gamers and it's also the reason why we'll likely never see a Warcraft IV.  

Heavy Rain-I thought that the Sega-CD's demise would finally bring an end to the dreaded era of interative movie style games.  Unfortunately, Heavy Rain's success may have proven me wrong.

Too Human-After creating Eternal Darkness which is one of the best games ever made, Silicon Knights decided to spend over 50 million dollars creating this flop with terrible controls and it turns out that most of the game's budget went in developing a new engine since they didn't want to use the Unreal 3 engine yet the engine they ended up producing looks and performs worse than the Unreal 3 engine anyways. 
This game was a colossal waste of time and money for both the developers and consumers.

Deus Ex:Invisible War-This game actually wasn't bad.  In fact it did some things better than the original game even such as giving us a truly open ended, non-linear plot where our choices really mattered.
However, the actual gameplay was so dumbed down that the only thing I could think of while playing the game is how much better the original game played.  Skill system was gone, environments were claustrophobic and had no exploration in contrast to the huge environments of the first game, and atmosphere and plot felt more like a cheesy sci-fi setting rather than a bleak dystopian outlook like in the original game.  The universal ammo clips were such a bad idea that I'm convinced there is no way someone as smart as Warren Specter could've imagined it as being a good idea.  It must've been some disgruntled programmer who put it in at the last minute.  Easily the worst feature about Invisible War and I'm pleased that Deus Ex:Human Revolution will NOT have this shameful feature.
On it's own merits, it's a decent game but the backlash from fans was the most ferocious I have ever seen.  They felt completely betrayed and it hurt the sales enough for it to effectively put Warren Specter's career on hiatus speaking of which...

Epic Mickey:The final nail in the coffin for Warren Specter.  This game could've been his glorious comeback but the terrible camera, controls, and boring gameplay have all but assured that this once great game designer has jumped the shark.  Unlike Deus Ex:Invisible War which I thought was a decent game but a dissapointing sequel, I thought Epic Mickey flat out SUCKED!  Super Mario Galaxy 2 feels a generation or two ahead of it.

Ultima IX: Most of the Ultima games are a little before my time(I'm 27) but I did play Ultima VII and it was one of the first computer RPGs I ever played and to this day remains one of my favorites.  It was a shame that Ultima VIII was vastly inferior but Ultima IX was the final kick in the quad.  What's especially deperssing about it is that it actually wasn't a terrible game, but it was SO buggy that it was unplayable and some of the patches released for it made things even worse.  I gave up in frustration as did many other gamers apparently since this game is the game that killed Richard Garriot's career.  

Bioshock: Why couldn't they have made a System Shock 3 instead?  Bioshock had a great atmosphere and plot but it was way too easy, too linear and it's weapons didn't feel in the least bit satisfying.  It's not a bad game but System Shock 2 was FAR FAR better.

Sonic 2006:This game killed Sonic for me.  Even though Sonic Colours was pretty damn good I just cannot bring myself to liking the mascot after this travesty.  The wounds may heal but it will take more than one good game to do so.  Oh yeah and Sonic 4 sucked too and Sega needs to realize that going forward doesn't mean going backwards.

Modifié par Turnip Root, 06 avril 2011 - 11:08 .


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Mario and Sonic & the olympics or whatever it was. Just an awful idea for a game that fed into a long line of party games made by Nintendo. The whole genre just gives me a headache all the gaems are exactly the same and so mind numbing to play unless you are completely drunk.

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The terrifying fact - that game got a sequel.

My personal choice... also world of warcraft, for reasons that are mostly listed above.

Modifié par DominusVita, 06 avril 2011 - 05:39 .


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Moondoggie wrote...

Mario and Sonic & the olympics or whatever it was. Just an awful idea for a game that fed into a long line of party games made by Nintendo. The whole genre just gives me a headache all the gaems are exactly the same and so mind numbing to play unless you are completely drunk.


Yeah I agree with this.  Mario and Sonic in Smash Brothers Brawl was fine but I never had a desire to see the two meet face to face in a stupid sports/party game.

While we're on the subject of crossovers let me also bring up Mortal Kombat VS DC Universe.  The DC Universe characters did not fit in at all and their inclusion game at the expense of the blood and fatalities Mortal Kombat is known for since God forbid we can't have an M rated game with DC Universe characters.

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Sonic Free Riders

I played it at my friend's and MY GOD IT'S AWFUL.

And I actually liked the very first Sonic Riders game...

Modifié par roflchoppaz, 06 avril 2011 - 05:44 .


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Turnip Root

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The Kinect should have never been made either!

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Turnip Root wrote...
Too Human-After creating Eternal Darkness which, one of the best games ever made, Silicon Knights decided to spend over 50 million dollars creating this flop with terrible controls and it turns out that most of the game's budget went in developing a new engine since they didn't want to use the Unreal 3 engine yet the engine they ended up producing looks and performs worse than the Unreal 3 engine anyways. 
This game was a colossal waste of time and money for both the developers and consumers.


 Actually, the controls are very good. Sure, they take a bit to get used to, but they're not a detriment to the game.

 The lack of levels and the unfinished Wyrd areas were the games downfall. Still, the game was a very fun grind fest, which excelled on many levels, including equipment models, loot drops and an unique story.

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Most MMO's. And for South Korea's sake Starcraft.

I also support the motion vs the Kinect.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 06 avril 2011 - 07:41 .


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Heavy Rain is amazing! It's one of the best games this gen, to me at least.

Anyway, I wish Activision wouldn't release a CoD game every holiday season. They always result in delays/lower sales for tons of similarly timed releases.

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1. Borderlands.

I wish I could permanently erase from my memory the entire game, and in particular the annoying dialogue and voice performance for the character of Claptrap

2. Arcania Gothic 4 - the dialogue and story were even more poorly written than Borderlands, but slightly less irritating characters

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Too Human had a good premise, I'll give it that, but it's action sucked.
Heavy Rain's controls were abysmal! The PS3 controller has two analog sticks, there is NO excuse for the game's tank like controls. Having to actually redo simple things like shaving or taking money out of my pocket was some of the most boring, tedious, and God awful moments I have ever experienced in a video game.
If Heavy Rain is the future of gaming, I'm DONE!

Oh yeah, Gothic 4 sucked too. Good graphics though, what a waste of a perfectly good graphic engine.

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I am pleased to see Ultima IX on the OP's list because that saves me the time of having to mention it myself. Everything I've ever seen used as an argument against DA2 applies to Ultima IX only magnified tenfold. Which might be why I'm so unimpressed with the arguments against DA2 because I've seen it before, seen it done worse. I walked up that hill to school with ten feet of snow in the ground in ratty shoes without socks, and so your complaints are nothing to me.

I'm old.

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The controls might've been clunky (but I at least got used to them fast) but what it did in terms of presentation/story, etc was really cool. It's not really the future of games per so, but an interesting alternative

edit: this is regarding Heavy Rain, not Ultima IX :lol:

Modifié par silver-crescent, 06 avril 2011 - 08:19 .


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The recent Spyro games. First 3-4 were amazing, the last few have seriously lost their touch

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From wikipedia:

At the time of its release, many fans felt the game was unfinished and not as polished as the earlier Ultimas were. One of the chief criticisms of Ultima IX was that the story did not do justice to the continuity of earlier parts of the series. The game's plot has many inconsistencies that fans of the series have refused to accept into the Ultima canon. The game was said to be made to attract a more general gamer audience with little or no knowledge of previous Ultimas, so many facts and events from earlier games are disregarded, while others are altered to suit the plot of Ultima IX. Some fans have found a considerable number of "errors" in the game.


Replace ultima with DA2, and it sounds pretty familiar.

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Modern Warfare 2
Splinter Cell Conviction
Hitman( every single one of them suck)
Crysis 2
Empire Total War
Hearts of Iron 3
Homefront
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty

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The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.
I don't get it. I just don't get it. I don't understand why people are so thoroughly enamoured with this stale, uninspired mess. And if this is what people refer to as a landmark game in the roleplaying genre, I'd prefer it if it was just wiped from our collective consciousness so that we could take that niché someplace interesting instead of someplace crushingly dull.

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ADelusiveMan

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Every Donkey Kong game after DK64
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts n Bolts (killed the series)
Every Sonic game after Sonic Heroes
World of Warcraft
Star Trek Online
Any of the Pokemon Ranger and Mystery Dungeon games
Buffy the Vampire Slayer for Xbox
Grand Theft Auto 4
Lord of the Rings: Battle for Middle Earth 1 and 2

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Oblivion is one of my favorites!

I suppose I enjoy exploring the open world and gradually developing the character over a very long period of time (been playing for a few years without ever finishing the main quest). Granted, I'm using about 150 mods including several overhauls and graphics/texture replacers.

Modifié par naughty99, 06 avril 2011 - 08:35 .


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ADelusiveMan wrote...

Star Trek Online


YES!!!

Not only do I loathe STO for its crappy gameplay, I loathe it for the canon/semi-cannonwhatever storyline it has produced. Star Trek's canon should not be influenced by a VIDEO GAME...especially one I have to pay a subscription for. Plus, it takes everything in a direction that doesn't make much sense, especially when you consider that many ST fans refuse to accept the 2009 movie as canon (if you are in the opposite camp, don't flay me alive, please!). It does the whole destruction of Romulus thing, which is complete and utter crap in my opinion, and plunges the entire galaxy into a crazy war that doesn't make any sense. You'd think the alpha/beta quadrant powers would have stronger peaceful ties after the Dominion War and the whole Shinzon thing. Geez...

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

You'd think the alpha/beta quadrant powers would have stronger peaceful ties after the Dominion War and the whole Shinzon thing. Geez...

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Just like you think the US and Soviet Union would have been friends and peaceful after that whole WW2 thing. More things Change....

As to above with Oblivion, not everyone has the Game on PC or mods. Thats what you should judge a game on its default. I'll be the first to admit if not for Mods I would no longer play 3/4's of the RTS titles I own. Oblivion isn't bad but ehh....I really don't see where it made any benchmarks.

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 Silent Hill Homecoming.

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The Witcher
Dragon Age 2
SWTOR
Rift
SWG NGE

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Why SWTOR, Twisted?

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KenKenpachi wrote...

Why SWTOR, Twisted?


Well I'll play it, but i wanted KOTOR 3

And i know SWTOR is supposed to be KOTOR 3-12, but you would have to be an idiot to think SWTOR will be the same as any KOTOR game