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[InkognitoY]

Wolverfrog wrote...

I really don't like the idea. It's too much like the way the Shadows were incapacitated by the telepaths in Babylon 5, and Mass Effect has already drawn far too many similarities with that show.

Are you the same Wolverfrog from Bungie.net? (Memiors of an ODST?)

I like your idea, and it seems very likely that something similar will occur. But I do have a few issues:

1) Very similar to ME2
2) I know you worked hard to avoid this, but is similar to Independence Day in the sense that, "oh here's a subversive way to weaken a previously unstoppable enemy!"
3) The way the Reapers have been described, no other situation is likely besides something like this. 

Still, I like it, especially the Reaper brainwave theory. 

[SandTrout]

That was a bit of necromancy, but an interesting topic, none the less.

Also, there is 1 more bit from the DR that was not mentioned in Ieldra's post. One of the recordings onboard the DR depicts a conversation where two workers share the same memory of a wedding (or was it a wife? something like that). This could be evidence that Indoctrination is not a 1-way street, and that it can be used for data transfer.

[Ieldra]

Totally overlooked this answer. Sorry for being late.

InkognitoY wrote...
I like your idea, and it seems very likely that something similar will occur. But I do have a few issues:

1) Very similar to ME2
2) I know you worked hard to avoid this, but is similar to Independence Day in the sense that, "oh here's a subversive way to weaken a previously unstoppable enemy!"

There are dramatic constraints as well as problems of consistency and lore-compatibility. The problem is that the decisive strike must be carried out by a small team or we would have nothing to play that's really important. In a more realistic scenario, the important people would stay in the background controlling the resources allocated to specific tasks, and the war would not be decided by one strike but rather a series of battles.

The subversive way is necessary because the Reapers are depicted as being unstoppable by open combat. The only other possibility would be that the allied species get a superweapon of their own, but then, too, there would be a protracted series of battles directed by many different people rather than decisive strikes by a small team. Realistic, but not very heroic.  

3) The way the Reapers have been described, no other situation is likely besides something like this.

That's not our fault. I'm sure we'll get more information about the Reapers in ME3 which will open more paths to a victory. Our scenario is based on what is currently known (Or rather, at the time I'm writing this, what was known 4 months ago), and that leaves just one weakness of the Reapers to exploit.

[Domanese]

Well yes the idea of turning the reapers own creations and technology which they have planted for harvesting organic life against them sounds very plausible and I honestly think that is perhaps the Golden Path to getting the best ending possible if you play the chips down right.

A similar but less successful and direct outcome could be done with trying to use the Mass Relays against them in some capacity. But like I said I don't believe what I'm suggesting would work too well or as planned. Either way I still think you are onto something.

[Ieldra]

Necroing this thread for those who'd like to see an alternate ending for ME3 with no Catalyst and no Crucible.

[Staff Cdr Alenko]

Wow. I gotta say, Ieldra, that I'm taken aback by this, I really am. I mean, back when I still had ME3 (sold it recently along with my previous account, basically saying "sod it, I reject this entire mother-of-all-disasters that ME3 is"), you just used to annoy me with your pro-synthesis shenanigans (I dislike all ME3 endings, but frankly speaking I hate synthesis the most, to the point of having issues with it even being a choice).

But this OP is full of bright ideas and I have to say I love most of them. So here's the thing: Had I ever created an ME3 story from scratch for myself, as a proper continuation, (a plan that's been on my mind for a while since I've gone back to ME love thanks to completely eradicating ME3 from it using substantial amounts of brain bleach), do you mind if I use bits and pieces from your concept?

I'm talking mainly about the idea of a small strike team entering Reaper space, it's just spot on and it makes a lot of things click into place (I'm thinking Arrival - to get to Reaper space you need to start finding a way to do it, to do that you need to be dead certain the Reapers are coming, because otherwise it would be counterproductive and plain bonkers mad, since you might end up accidentally opening the portal for them to come zooming through. With Arrival we have a clear and present danger of the invasion, so countermeasures should be taken right away).

Modifié par Staff Lt Alenko, 09 septembre 2012 - 08:37 .

[Ieldra]

Sorry for the late reply, Staff Lt. Alenko. Of course you can use bits and pieces of the concept. It's not mine alone anyway and I think Elyvern (who feels pretty much as you about ME3's endings) would be delighted.

The thing is, had we gotten something like this as ME3's ending as the only one, I would've been satisfied. I have my preference among the existing ones but that's a different matter and ruled by different considerations.