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[randName]

Elton John is dead wrote...

randName wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Wow. So The Witcher 2 contains pixie porn and this makes it RPG of the year? It's not actually an RPG. It's an action RPG like the first and more so now. 

Like DA2 then? 

Or you can't seriously call DA2 a cRPG? maybe a adventure cRPG, but Action cRPG seems more apt.

Also I don't remember you being forced to have sex at any time in the Witcher, always optional if I remember it correct, wait you might have gotten raped at one point, or semi raped, but anyway.

DA2 is an action RPG but still more of an RPG than The Witcher 1 & 2, it contains stats. The Witcher 1 & 2 are just full skill trees. No leveling up strength so you make 70 strength by the end of it. There are only 5 levels of everything.

And yes, sex is forced onto you in The Witcher. Geralt has sex with that red hair girl and every woman just throws herself at Geralt (really ugly in the first) with really stupid reasons. I lol'd at one woman (part of the main quest) telling me to anal her on the nearby rock in front of everyone if I get her a ring. Thanks but no thanks. Seriously? Who made The Witcher? Teens who dream of sex every second of their lives?

And those idiots calling me troll are just plain stupid. They voice their opinions and thus I can voice mine. Porn and nudity doesn't make a game good expecially when it's thrown at you every minute.

I played the first and didn't have sex with anyone but one woman - sure more are interested, but you always have a choice.

& RPGs are not about lots of stats, and DA:O have as many choices as theWitcher, DA2 hardly.
(I was faithful to Triss).

Modifié par randName, 06 avril 2011 - 07:09 .

[Galad22]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Yeah it's also about building a character which you do in DA2. People claim DA2 is dumbed down. Wait till you play Witcher. No choice of class, gender or apperance or personality. Have fun.

Did you even play witcher? It was so much more rpg than DA2 is that it isn't even funny.

[Edli]

Elton John is dead wrote...

Yeah it's also about building a character which you do in DA2. People claim DA2 is dumbed down. Wait till you play Witcher. No choice of class, gender or apperance or personality. Have fun.

It's about making meaningful choices, about making your own story which DA2 lacked. Didn't Bioware called ff games adventure games after all? Stats alone do not make a game rpg.

Modifié par Edli, 06 avril 2011 - 07:10 .

[MizzNaaa]

Ryzaki wrote...

I really prefer fade to black.

I wouldn't mind a scene similar to the one in AC2 though.

The one in AC: brotherhood was pretty good too

[Eternal Phoenix]

Galad22 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Yeah it's also about building a character which you do in DA2. People claim DA2 is dumbed down. Wait till you play Witcher. No choice of class, gender or apperance or personality. Have fun.

Did you even play witcher? It was so much more rpg than DA2 is that it isn't even funny.

In what way? Yes I did play it and you can't even change armor, there's only three armor sets and a few swords. The skills trees are terrible and all builds end up the same. DA2 is more of an RPG.

[Cutlass Jack]

MizzNaaa wrote...

The one in AC: brotherhood was pretty good too

Well it certainly went off prematurely....well the cannons I mean.

[Khayness]

Galad22 wrote...

Did you even play witcher? It was so much more rpg than DA2 is that it isn't even funny.

Who cares that one of the main quest is about shaping your personality?

There are boobs in it, we must burn the games!

[PsychoBlonde]

And yet I still have zero interest in the Witcher franchise.

[CaimDark]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Really if I want to see two people I didn't create having sex cinematically, I'd probably rent a movie. Not really what I prioritize most in a roleplaying game. Or even a romance in a roleplaying game. Given a choice between more flexibility of choice and cinematic sex scenes I'd pick the former.

But whatever knocks your socks off.

Hum... I'm almost afraid to ask... but does that mean you sometimes get the urge to see two people you DID create having sex???

[DraCZeQQ]

Anyone remember "sex" scene of Heavy Rain? It was pretty cool AND interactive yet decent =)

[JediHealerCosmin]

The smiley face at the center is hilarious. 

[rikimarujan]

Ah.. I love all this discussion who is the better one. Competition between CDProjekt and BioWare is the best thing that could happen to us RPG-Fans. The more they try to beat the other studio the better games we will get!
So keep on!

[Galad22]

Elton John is dead wrote...

In what way? Yes I did play it and you can't even change armor, there's only three armor sets and a few swords. The skills trees are terrible and all builds end up the same. DA2 is more of an RPG.

There was choices that came back to you after 10 hours, there was lots of quest that didn't involve killing.

Vizima was more "alive" than Kirkwall is.

You seem to claim that rpgs is all about equipment and stats and skills. It really isn't. Rpgs need good writing and good story and choises, all of these are missing from DA2. Witcher backstory is much better, in fact DA is heavily borrowing from witchers world, with elves that are second class citizens and sort of grey grey morality.

[Marionetten]

Dave of Canada wrote...

No wait, I don't give a **** about it.

You seem to be missing the point here. This has nothing to do with purchasing The Witcher 2 because it contains well crafted sex scenes. No, there are plenty of other reasons for purchasing that game. This has everything to do with requesting improvement for future installments of the Dragon Age franchise. The sex scenes were most certainly a weak point.

MizzNaaa wrote...

The one in AC: brotherhood was pretty good too

This is true.

rikimarujan wrote...

Ah.. I love all this discussion who is the better one. Competition between CDProjekt and BioWare is the best thing that could happen to us RPG-Fans. The more they try to beat the other studio the better games we will get!
So keep on!

This is what I'm personally hoping for, yes. Unfortunately some BioWare fans appear to be allergic to competition.

Modifié par Marionetten, 06 avril 2011 - 07:19 .

[Khayness]

Galad22 wrote...

Witcher backstory is much better, in fact DA is heavily borrowing from witchers world, with elves that are second class citizens and sort of grey grey morality.

Oh, you just had to go there.

Now a horde of Tolkien lore fanboys will appear and flame this thread even more.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Galad22 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

In what way? Yes I did play it and you can't even change armor, there's only three armor sets and a few swords. The skills trees are terrible and all builds end up the same. DA2 is more of an RPG.

There was choices that came back to you after 10 hours, there was lots of quest that didn't involve killing.

Vizima was more "alive" than Kirkwall is.

You seem to claim that rpgs is all about equipment and stats and skills. It really isn't. Rpgs need good writing and good story and choises, all of these are missing from DA2. Witcher backstory is much better, in fact DA is heavily borrowing from witchers world, with elves that are second class citizens and sort of grey grey morality.

I know adventure and action games and FPS games where choices hit you back later on. Does that make them RPG's? Assassin's Creed had cities that were more alive than The Witcher's cities will ever be. Does that make it an RPG?

I'm not claiming RPG's are about stats. It's about building a character which stats are apart off. In DA2 we can shape Hawke in any way we want. We can chose Hawke's gender, personality, class, class build, religion and more. In The Witcher, we play as a sex mad ugly white haired punk. Choices and their effects don't make an RPG either.

NOT that I hate The Witcher. It was decent but it's an action RPG to me and while DA2 is ALSO an action RPG it allows us to build a character more. We can make our warriors defensive with shields and level them up so they are good at defending or we can make them 2 handers who do great damage or we can create a warrior who works well with teams and inspires them.

The Witcher? Silver sword or steal sword or magic? Take your pick. DA2? Many skill trees for three classes.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 06 avril 2011 - 07:22 .

[Galad22]

Khayness wrote...

Oh, you just had to go there.

Now a horde of Tolkien lore fanboys will appear and flame this thread even more.

What is done is done.

I apologise if this happens. But honestly that is my opinion.

[DraCZeQQ]

Galad22 wrote...
Witcher backstory is much better, in fact DA is heavily borrowing from witchers world, with elves that are second class citizens and sort of grey grey morality.

Not to mention that the "elves as second class" is much better displayed in witcher ... i never got this feeling in DA ...

[MizzNaaa]

 Okay I've played a lot of video games with love scenes, and being a girl, love-scenes to me aren't about yelling 'score' 

It's about seeing intimacy and romance between a character that I've spent so much time talking to and caring for...etc. during a game.

Scenes like the one shown (The witcher rules!) or like the one in ME1, or Assassin's creed Brotherhood are tasteful, sweet and very well done.

You see intimacty, love, closeness...without it being too much. I have to comment, scenes like panties wrestling in DA: Origins are a joke, and for some reason BW got intimidated by some 'controversial BS'  from the media, which made no sense and it was clear that whoever shares those opinions never played the game.

More so, those games are 18+ in most countries, so why the hell should they not give us good looking romance scenes?

And it can never be called pr0n because it shows nothing more than your average movie does...:/

AND it's completely skippable if it makes you feel uncomfortable...so what gives?

[Savber100]

Witcher has zero customization when it comes to choosing race or appearance.

It does have some nice choices here and there but otherwise it's a decent game that PC elitists have gobbled up simply because the market is devoid of good cRPG. Witcher 2 has potential though. It's what DA2 was aiming for if DA2 had an epic story, good graphics, and deep choices while still being a mindless hack-n-slash. Think about it. The similarities between the two games are startling. Paraphrasing dialogue choices? Check. Boring, set main character? Check. Click and something awesome happens? Check.

[Galad22]

Elton John is dead wrote...
I know adventure and action games and FPS games where choices hit you back later on. Does that make them RPG's? Assassin's Creed had cities that were more alive than The Witcher's cities will ever be. Does that make it an RPG?

I'm not claiming RPG's are about stats. It's about building a character which stats are apart off. In DA2 we can shape Hawke in any way we want. We can chose Hawke's gender, personality, class, class build, religion and more. In The Witcher, we play as a sex mad ugly white haired punk. Choices and their effects don't make an RPG either.

You can build Geralt to be much more interesting person than Hawke.

You can side with Vampires against humans at some point, and Geralt start to wonder what sort of witcher he actually is.

And game changes somewhat based on what side you side with, or if you stay neutral. Here again DA2 got nothing. Nothing changes even if you side with mages than if you sided with templars. And you can't stay neutral.

[Marionetten]

Elton John is dead wrote...

In DA2 we can shape Hawke in any way we want.

Hawke is as much of a predefined character as Shepard is. More, actually. Sure, you can customize his appearance and even his gender but Hawke will always be Hawke. Hawke's sister will always be Bethany, Hawke's brother will always be Carver and Hawke's mother will always be Leandra. His origin is set in stone and one of his siblings will always arbitrarily die to an angry ogre. Even his future is as there is no real way to deviate from the intended path.

The point here is that Hawke has quite a bit in common with Geralt when you look further than skin deep.

Modifié par Marionetten, 06 avril 2011 - 07:29 .

[CaimDark]

MizzNaaa wrote...

 Okay I've played a lot of video games with love scenes, and being a girl, love-scenes to me aren't about yelling 'score' 

You did not need to tell us you were a girl, it was obvious from the moment you used the words "love scene"!

[jadefishes]

Or maybe I want pornography with my graphic violence.

Just not when my kids are in the room - for either the sex or the violence.

[MizzNaaa]

Galad22 wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

In what way? Yes I did play it and you can't even change armor, there's only three armor sets and a few swords. The skills trees are terrible and all builds end up the same. DA2 is more of an RPG.

There was choices that came back to you after 10 hours, there was lots of quest that didn't involve killing.

Vizima was more "alive" than Kirkwall is.

You seem to claim that rpgs is all about equipment and stats and skills. It really isn't. Rpgs need good writing and good story and choises, all of these are missing from DA2. Witcher backstory is much better, in fact DA is heavily borrowing from witchers world, with elves that are second class citizens and sort of grey grey morality.

Can you imagine how good DA2 would have been if they'd managed to make Kirkwall as good as Vizima? Ah, it breaks my heart...BW could have made such an epic game *sigh*