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[bzombo]

PsychoBlonde wrote...

And yet I still have zero interest in the Witcher franchise.

+1

[MizzNaaa]

CaimDark wrote...

MizzNaaa wrote...

 Okay I've played a lot of video games with love scenes, and being a girl, love-scenes to me aren't about yelling 'score' 

You did not need to tell us you were a girl, it was obvious from the moment you used the words "love scene"!

LOL!

[Galad22]

MizzNaaa wrote...

Can you imagine how good DA2 would have been if they'd managed to make Kirkwall as good as Vizima? Ah, it breaks my heart...BW could have made such an epic game *sigh*

Indeed. I had such high hopes for DA2. But there was just so many flaws in the game.

This was one of them.

[Sabriana]

I won't play any "Witcher" games, because I can't play as a male PC.

No, I don't hate men, I love 'em. Why, some of my best friends are men p)

I know that I'm limiting myself, severely so. I also know that many men play female PC's and many women play male PC's. I just can't do it, it never feels right. I'm never *in* the game, I'm just playing it. Sorta like DA 2 (for me/end obligatory foot-note).

However, I don't mind reading about male protagonists, and I don't mind watching my friends play them. Weird? Probably.

The only games where I could play as a male PC, and actually enjoy it were PS:T and the Zelda stuff. Seriously. Oh lord, I hope I'm not too weird.

Edited because spelling is an art form

Modifié par Sabriana, 06 avril 2011 - 07:40 .

[Brockololly]

I mean, for all the talk of having DA2 be more colorful than DAO, Kirkwall was pretty damn drab. There is no reason brown needs to be tied to a gritty medieval setting:



You've got tons of tents in the distance, COLORS, far off mountains, more than 5 people on the screen at once and so on. Visually at least, TW2 seems far and away superior to DA or anything BioWare has come out with. Now, the animations might suck or the gameplay end up rubbish, but TW2 has a damn good look, which is more than I can say for DA.

The colors! The lighting! The sense of scale!




The map!



And really, if BioWare is aiming to bring in a more mainstream audience for DA, the easiest way to do that? Have the game knock your socks off visually- the best damn marketing tool is to show off a stunning screenshot. Hell, back when I never played RPGs, the reason BG2 got my attention were the graphics.

Modifié par Brockololly, 06 avril 2011 - 07:44 .

[Crash_7]

Personally I never understood why the DA universe was an 18 rated game.  The gibing and blood is more cartoonist than outright shock-inducing gore, and the swearing is very mild, never going beyond potty humour.  The sexual component is practically non existent, and more graphic scenes can be found in other media with lower age ratings.

The Witcher was only slightly richer in these areas and imo earned a 15 rating.

I really do agree with the above statements to the fact that games producers need to man-up with regard to facing down the Mary Whitehouse brigade.  With each new "this game will ruin your soul" story that pops up in the media, I ask myself why games developers are so timid?  The gaming industry is more than established, and easily competes with film on the financial front; why does it refuse to defend its consumers from the nanny-state?


I really enjoyed both games, so this engineered competition between DA and TW goes over my head.  Both games had issues and both have evolved.  I hope TW's combat system has been improved because (imo) it was the weakest part of that game.  Conversely I hope DA 3 becomes significantly grittier and dark.

[Galad22]

Sabriana wrote...

I won't play any "Witcher" games, because I can't play as a male PC.

No, I don't hate men, I love 'em. Why, some of my best friends are men p)

I know that I'm limiting myself, severely so. I also know that many men play female PC's and many women play male PC's. I just can't do it, it never feels right. I'm never *in* the game, I'm just playing it. Sorta like DA 2 (for me/end obligatory foot-note).

However, I don't mind reading about male protagonists, and I don't mind watching my friends play them. Weird? Probably.

The only games where I could play as a male PC, and actually enjoy it were PS:T and the Zelda stuff. Seriously. Oh lord, I hope I'm not too weird.

Edited because spelling is an art form

I don't usually like games which force you to play only male protagonist (same if you are forced to play as female really) either, I think it's important that you could play as both. But I don't let it limit myself, since well you will lose some great games that way.

Modifié par Galad22, 06 avril 2011 - 07:46 .

[AAHook2]

The Origins scenes weren't too bad. I mean what do you want? Full on penetration shots and porno tempo music?
Dragon Age 2...there really wasn't any sex to speak of. I found the flirting dialogue more cringe-worthy and squeamish than any thigh or breast shot they could have employed. I mean you're already playing a rated MA game, so why splurge on the gore only to pull back on the fun bits. I mean even if you thought Origin's cut scene sex was corny, at least you got to giggle a little bit over it.
I remember watching the fade to black of Kirkwall and saying out loud: "Really?"
Then I shook my head and tried to have Hawke flirt with Sandahl for fun. Nothing happened of course, but the end result was the same for when she took Anders to the sheets.

[AAHook2]

Brockololly: Those shots are effin gorgeous.

[JediMB]

I really have to play through the original Witcher, so I can make up my mind on whether I'm interested in the sequel.

All I can say right now is that TW2 has pretty graphics. (Unlike the original.)

Modifié par JediMB, 06 avril 2011 - 07:49 .

[DTKT]

Damn, those screenshots look amazing!

[Serpieri Nei]

Witcher 2 is looking great - only wished you had more choices over the protaganist.

[Blooddrunk1004]

Elton John you obviously never played Baldurs Gate or KOTOR.
Please play those games then go to The Witcher then DA:O and DA2.
If you will still think after that DA2 is more of an RPG then Witcher you should get off this topic, because apearantly you dont anything how RPG games should look like and realizing how few RPG elements DA2 has.

Modifié par Blooddrunk1004, 06 avril 2011 - 07:51 .

[Dark83]

bzombo wrote...

catabuca wrote...

Just a couple of weeks ago I sat down to eat my tea while watching

the above bolded portionn sounds nasty.

I sat down to eat my breakfast...
I sat down to eat my lunch...
I sat down to eat my tea...
I sat down to eat my supper...

[AbounI]

Sorry for you, but I have to say TW2 will be subject to censor for the States

Oui oui, ce ne sont que des scènes érotiques (pas porno) qui seront censurées aux States (pour le nu), mais pas en France

http://www.rpgfrance.com/taverne/index.php?/topic/8927-de-nouvelles-captures-pour-the-witcher-2/page__view__findpost__p__68744

This quote is taken from RPGF, have to know that Megamat was this week at the CDPR studios, for an exclusive preview

edit: for those who are interested to read his preview, you can find it here (He has just gave me the right to communicate the link).

Feel free to translate it of course (screens are not exclusive)

Modifié par AbounI, 06 avril 2011 - 07:58 .

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

Brockololly wrote...

And really, if BioWare is aiming to bring in a more mainstream audience for DA, the easiest way to do that? Have the game knock your socks off visually- the best damn marketing tool is to show off a stunning screenshot. Hell, back when I never played RPGs, the reason BG2 got my attention were the graphics.

Honestly, Bioware's design choices seem to be a cross-purposes in so many ways that it's hard to say what sort of audience they're really going for.

[Dark83]

AAHook2 wrote...

The Origins scenes weren't too bad. I mean what do you want? Full on penetration shots and porno tempo music?

Origins was horrible because they showed it while still in their underwear.

Either show it, or don't show it (via artsy cutaways and fade to blacks). Don't have it be a pantomime in pantaloons.

[Galad22]

AbounI wrote...

Sorry for you, but I have to say TW2 will be subject to censor for the States

I am sure there will be mod that will fix this for poor americans.

[Dark83]

Will there be a Hot Coffee outcry from irresponsible parents again?

[DraCZeQQ]

Galad22 wrote...

AbounI wrote...

Sorry for you, but I have to say TW2 will be subject to censor for the States

I am sure there will be mod that will fix this for poor americans.

Little offtopic but

[MizzNaaa]

JediMB wrote...

I really have to play through the original Witcher, so I can make up my mind on whether I'm interested in the sequel.

All I can say right now is that TW2 has pretty graphics. (Unlike the original.)

I'm a dedicated BW fan since the days of KOTOR, but I must tell you that -at least for me- whatever weaknesses the Witcher had, it was overshadowed by the fracking awesomeness of the plot. I didn't truly understand the meaning of shades of gray morality until I played that game...there is just NO FRACKING WAY for you to pick the right choice, they took the whole grey thing to a completely new level that I have NEVER experienced in any other game!

All in all, the game had its weaknesses, but the good parts really make you forget anything bad about it!

[Crash_7]

@Brokololly

I don't see any noteworthy difference in the technical aspects of DA/TW graphics? I think the attention to detail and complexity is higher in TW than DA, but that is a different aspect.

Some of DA 2's level designs are rich (ok, not as rich as TW/2), but some of TW's combat was awful. 6 of 1, half a dozen of another.

We can have both!

[Wulfram]

Oooh, that map is sexy.

[skyrend]

Sabriana wrote...

I won't play any "Witcher" games, because I can't play as a male PC.

No, I don't hate men, I love 'em. Why, some of my best friends are men p)

I know that I'm limiting myself, severely so. I also know that many men play female PC's and many women play male PC's. I just can't do it, it never feels right. I'm never *in* the game, I'm just playing it. Sorta like DA 2 (for me/end obligatory foot-note).

However, I don't mind reading about male protagonists, and I don't mind watching my friends play them. Weird? Probably.

The only games where I could play as a male PC, and actually enjoy it were PS:T and the Zelda stuff. Seriously. Oh lord, I hope I'm not too weird.

Edited because spelling is an art form

It depends.  On games when the character is given enough freedom for me to really impact their personality and choices, I only play male as that's a preference.  Still have yet to play femshep although I've heard her voice acting is great.  Also, romancing as a female is not that appealing to me.

For games where the main character is already decided and I'm kind of along for the ride, I don't mind it at all.