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[Hrodric]

MEET OPTION #3:

http://t1.gstatic.co...2qktWgNTMbSrgw3

You have to admit, those blue eyes are hawwwwwwwt.

[Boronion]

Depends on someones taste. I would rather take Merrill then "Metal-face" Isabela

[Boronion]

Damn it, double post

Modifié par Boronion, 07 avril 2011 - 05:07 .

[Alyka]

Hrodric wrote...

MEET OPTION #3:

http://t1.gstatic.co...2qktWgNTMbSrgw3

You have to admit, those blue eyes are hawwwwwwwt.

XD Shouldn't the eyes be on the other side?

[Alyka]

I'm afraid to romance Merrill on my male Hawke.She seems...child-like in her appearance compared to her Origins model.To be honest, if it weren't for her well endowed bosom, I would think she's a teen.
It would be nice if Aveline was romanceable.I actually like her.Isabela isn't that bad,I'm going to romance her eventually,but I have to agree she pissed me off too when she ran away with the book.And the cutscene in Anders's clinic with Isabela...she's talking to him about clearing up her STD.*shudders* Not to mention the fact that Senechal Bran goes there too and Anders tells him to not sleep with sailors.I wonder if he's hinting at Isabela.

[Warrcry13]

I liked Athenril. I am upset my Male Rogue Hawke (who has yet to be spawned) will not get a chance to do anything with her.

[ziloe]

 I actually liked Merril, but that's just me.

[FedericoV]

I don't agree with the OP. In general, I think that the woman in DA2 are better than DA:O. The problem is that they have little screen time compared to Morrigain, Leliana and Wynne since your charachter is voiced and he runs the show.

I like them all, especially Aveline wich is the best charachter of the game imho, if not for "The Longest Road" quest, wich is one of the most beautifull, delicate, humorous and nice piece of software ever coinceived by a human mind.

Only porblem I have: too few "romance dialogues" (I choose Isabella and I think a couple more would not have been bad). Mostly, I think that the Merril quest is not "closed enough" since we do not learn anything about the Elluvian mirrors. Even a little hint, would have given a greater sense of achievment in that quest (especially for players who are not romancing Merril).

[Rifneno]

Nothing for the Danarius anagram?  I laughed until I coughed up blood when I found that.  You guys suck.  

noxsachi wrote...

Isabela was very shallow before I did her romance, I certainly never thought I'd end up loving her. However from the moment I met Merrill she grated on me, and I /love/ Tali, so Izzy was the only romance I wanted to engage in. She reveals alot of depth after your romance her and she emerged as one of my fav chars in DAII.

Unless there was something I missed (I only romanced Isabela once, on the friend side) I have to disagree.  I'm not saying there's nothing below the surface but it's not much.  There's a vague story about her nameless husband, whom Zevran kills for the lolz, and about 30 seconds of dialogue about the actual reason she doesn't want love involved is because she doesn't want the other person ending up hurt.  It could've been the basis for something deep but it wasn't.  It was just kind of... there.

Urazz wrote...

Why do people say Isabela has STDs.

Joke fodder mostly.  In actuality, I'm sure she's 10 times safer than Zevran.  When's the last time you've seen a lesbian with AIDS?  For most people the answer is "never."  Without getting too graphic, the fluid exchange with two women is much less, and most safer (i.e. much lower chance of exposure to the bloodstream through a tiny laceration).  Granted this is partially due to the oddly unvirulent nature of the virus in question but the risk is generally reduced across the board.

Hmm.  Too serious there.  Morrigan disapproves -20.  Okay, an awesome Isabela line that doesn't get enough attention.  If you're playing FemHawke and take one flirt with Isabela just so she'll show up at the Hawke estate later.  When she does she'll ask Hawke if she wants to have some "girly fun."  Sarcastic Hawke's response is thus: "So what, you want to go shoe shopping or something?"  Epic.

Camilladilla wrote...

Guess that's what Anders is good for asides from blowing up chantries.

He's also excellent if you're going on vacation and need someone to feed your cats.

[Augustei]

Faust1979 wrote...

 Aveline is kind of a **** and she is kinda butch as well. Merill is to child like and kinda skittish at times. Isabella is awesome all woman tough, frank, sarcastic and fun

STDS FTW! right?
Seriously though Isabela disgusts me

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 07 avril 2011 - 11:58 .

[Torax]

Just going to point out. Not sure which is safer between Isabela and Zev. They both have a love of poisons after on top of not having very high standards.

[fusilero1]

Torax wrote...

Just going to point out. Not sure which is safer between Isabela and Zev. They both have a love of poisons after on top of not having very high standards.

Pfft, as Zevran says the only thing that matters is quality. :happy:

[sylvanaerie]

First of all, this thread had me laughing so hard I had to stop reading and go do something else before I peed myself.
Then I had to comment. I've done 3 of the romances in the game (4 if you count Sebastian) and of the three, I like Isabella's best because it does change her.
Merrill is sweet but annoys the crap out of me with that damn mirror.
Isabella only leaves with the book if you don't take the time to get to know her. Her friendship doesn't have to be that high to get her to come back and you can do that by doing her 2 act 1 quests, giving her the ship in a bottle and I think at that time her questioning beliefs quest pops up for more approval. I flirted with her and had her maxed before I was barely into act 2.
She also displays a subtlety and depth you don't see if you don't take the time to get to know her character. There is some good writing that comes up in several conversations that show she is changing and evolving from ****ty pirate to caring woman. And not all of it shows in her romance. I was romancing Merrill on my last playthrough and she promised bodily harm to my Hawke if he hurt the lil elf. She becomes very protective, big sisterly...and even invited Hawke and Merrill to come when she sailed out of Kirkwall when it was all done.
Fenris and Anders annoy the ****** out of me with the whole flip side of emo whine and embody all the hate/anger directed against both sides of the conflict. And yea I don't like the idea of suddenly getting my heart ripped out over an argument of 'who left the toilet seat up'. I romanced Fenris but Anders looks and acts like a selfish weasel and is totally unappealing to me.
For romance, Sebastian is a non entity, the romance only comes up in Act 3 and it's a celibate one.
So, as far as I'm concerned, it's not the straight guys who got screwed but the het females (or gay guys).

[hoorayforicecream]

Rifneno wrote...

Nothing for the Danarius anagram?  I laughed until I coughed up blood when I found that.  You guys suck.  

I'll admit it. I laughed.

Unless there was something I missed (I only romanced Isabela once, on the friend side) I have to disagree.  I'm not saying there's nothing below the surface but it's not much.  There's a vague story about her nameless husband, whom Zevran kills for the lolz, and about 30 seconds of dialogue about the actual reason she doesn't want love involved is because she doesn't want the other person ending up hurt.  It could've been the basis for something deep but it wasn't.  It was just kind of... there.

I thought the same way you did initially... a scoundrel with a heart of gold, like Han Solo or Malcolm Reynolds but with a pair of glorious breasts. However, in order to get a full picture of Isabela, you need more than her romance conversations. She's very emotionally guarded. It's very easy to miss. I found out almost by accident... she was in my party because I enjoyed her commentary, but then she began chatting with Merrill and Aveline, and I was hooked.

With Aveline, Isabela shows no romantic inclinations or commentary. She's the teasing sort that loves to tweak Aveline's so-serious nose, but you could tell that she did it in a good-natured way. Between the two of them, Isabela helps Aveline become more self-confident while retaining her unique brand of humor. That's just the kind of person Isabela is.

With Merrill, you have two parallel paths. One path is big sisterly concern for the naive elf. Their talks show that Isabela isn't quite as pleased with her own life as she might lead everyone to believe, but she's subtle about it so it's easy to miss. When Merrill starts commenting about the romance with Hawke (and comment she does, they have like 4 different romance-related banters), it's easier to get a feeling of how guarded Isabela is, but still see small things sneak through.

It certainly isn't perfect, but the picture you get from just the romance conversations isn't sufficient for a full view of the character. Isabela isn't for everyone (despite her reputation), but she certainly wormed her way into my heart and feasted on my tender white flesh.

Modifié par hoorayforicecream, 07 avril 2011 - 04:44 .

[The Angry One]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Isabela isn't for everyone (despite her reputation), but she certainly wormed her way into my heart and feasted on my tender white flesh.

Oh that's terrible. I've murder knifed people for less than this!

[LobselVith8]

Faust1979 wrote...

Merill is to child like and kinda skittish at times.

Merrill sounds like an adult, looks like an adult, and is dealing with culture shock.

Also, she reconstructs a two thousand year old Eluvian with nothing but a single shard and some ancient lore. She pulls a MacGyver. While she's a bit introverted at times, she comes off as a good person. I think Merrill is a great character. For all the crap that I see her get for using blood magic, she's the one who uses it proficiently for several years.

Modifié par LobselVith8, 07 avril 2011 - 04:58 .

[The Baconer]

LobselVith8 wrote...
Merrill sounds like an adult, looks like an adult, and is dealing with culture shock.

Also, she reconstructs a two thousand year old Eluvian with nothing but a single shard and some ancient lore.

Meh, anyone in fantasty can do anything with 'Ancient lore'. Especially if said lore is made up of tomes. Even moreso if they're 'Dusty Old Tomes'!

[Iosev]

A lot of Isabela's character is actually fleshed out only in party banter. From her conversations with other companions, you learn that a lot of what you see from her is feigned shallowness and ignorance, in order to distance herself from others (no doubt out of emotional survival).

For example, with Aveline, you learn that Isabela is very self-confident, not allowing what people call her to change how she sees herself. With Merrill, you learn that Isabela has led a life that she wouldn't want to wish on anyone, yet at the same time, she isn't about to complain about her personal trauma to anyone else. With Anders, she calls him out on how unrealistic his views are, as well as revealing that she has quite a good head on her shoulders, despite what she would have others think.

Again, not everyone is going to enjoy her character, but she is certainly not the one-dimensional sex fiend that people think she is either.

Modifié par arcelonious, 07 avril 2011 - 05:06 .

[Abispa]

The only woman who maintained my interest was Avaline, but while I appreciate the romantic options put into a game, I'm not playing video games to get some fake nookie. That's just sad.

As for Isabella, she's destined to be target practice for the Arishock. Bye bye.

[AlexXIV]

Funny how I always romance Merrill and feed Isabella to the sharks Qunari. Isabella is hot, I give her that. But I can't stand her selfish attitude.

[AlexXIV]

arcelonious wrote...

A lot of Isabela's character is actually fleshed out only in party banter. From her conversations with other companions, you learn that a lot of what you see from her is feigned shallowness and ignorance, in order to distance herself from others (no doubt out of emotional survival).

For example, with Aveline, you learn that Isabela is very self-confident, not allowing what people call her to change how she sees herself. With Merrill, you learn that Isabela has led a life that she wouldn't want to wish on anyone, yet at the same time, she isn't about to complain about her personal issues to anyone else. With Anders, she calls him out on how unrealistic his views are, as well as revealing that she has quite a good head on her shoulders, despite what she would have others think.

Again, not everyone is going to enjoy her character, but she is certainly not the one-dimensional sex fiend that people think she is either.

She runs off with the Qunari book so that the Qunari run through the streets slaughtering everyone. I am sure you have a good excuse for that too. Probably something along 'She isn't perfect.' Yeah, not by a long shot.

[Cutlass Jack]

arcelonious wrote...

A lot of Isabela's character is actually fleshed out only in party banter. From her conversations with other companions, you learn that a lot of what you see from her is feigned shallowness and ignorance, in order to distance herself from others (no doubt out of emotional survival).

For example, with Aveline, you learn that Isabela is very self-confident, not allowing what people call her to change how she sees herself. With Merrill, you learn that Isabela has led a life that she wouldn't want to wish on anyone, yet at the same time, she isn't about to complain about her personal issues to anyone else. With Anders, she calls him out on how unrealistic his views are, as well as revealing that she has quite a good head on her shoulders, despite what she would have others think.

Again, not everyone is going to enjoy her character, but she is certainly not the one-dimensional sex fiend that people think she is either.

Yup this. Much of Isabela's depth is revealed through her very non-sexual bonding with the other women of the group (Merril, Aveline and Bethany)

[Iosev]

AlexXIV wrote...

arcelonious wrote...

A lot of Isabela's character is actually fleshed out only in party banter. From her conversations with other companions, you learn that a lot of what you see from her is feigned shallowness and ignorance, in order to distance herself from others (no doubt out of emotional survival).

For example, with Aveline, you learn that Isabela is very self-confident, not allowing what people call her to change how she sees herself. With Merrill, you learn that Isabela has led a life that she wouldn't want to wish on anyone, yet at the same time, she isn't about to complain about her personal issues to anyone else. With Anders, she calls him out on how unrealistic his views are, as well as revealing that she has quite a good head on her shoulders, despite what she would have others think.

Again, not everyone is going to enjoy her character, but she is certainly not the one-dimensional sex fiend that people think she is either.

She runs off with the Qunari book so that the Qunari run through the streets slaughtering everyone. I am sure you have a good excuse for that too. Probably something along 'She isn't perfect.' Yeah, not by a long shot.

No, she is a selfish character, I don't think I ever said that she wasn't.

[Abispa]

I'm sure most of the STD rumors on Isabella are sick jokes by fans, but there are two moments in the game that indicate that she may be infected. A woman on the docks recognizes her and said Isabella has a special disease that the sailors have named after her. But the woman may have been mistaken or it could have been a mean rumor stated by sailors who didn't get any. And if you don't have Isabella in your party when you visit the clinic in the middle of Act II, there's a scene where Isabella is getting some medicine to treat a rash that Anders blames on her lifestyle, but Hawke says s/he didn't want to know.

[Cutlass Jack]

AlexXIV wrote...

She runs off with the Qunari book so that the Qunari run through the streets slaughtering everyone. I am sure you have a good excuse for that too. Probably something along 'She isn't perfect.' Yeah, not by a long shot.

The actual reason is that wasn't the reason they ran through the streets slaughtering everyone. It was the final insult to the Qun when the Vicount demanded the elves back.

The Book didn't help, certainly, but it would have happened regardless.