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[Kogaion]

The Angry One wrote...

Kogaion wrote...

that's you're oppinion ..as that was mine ofc ...but you are "the angry one" so i'm guessing you're just angry by default about my comment  (joke)

The point is people calling her a little girl have no basis.
Think about it, if Merril had a dominant voice like Morrigan's would you still call her a little girl?

is not the voice  that make her look a little girl ( for me ) is the fact that she is stubborn in her stupid quest  ..not listening to  her keeper ( she thinks she's smarter than an old keeper? )  like a teenager  would do ...she kills her clan ..she makes  her keeper sacrifice  for her (that being the only way to save her stupid ass) ...the mistakes that she makes through the whole game are unforgivable  ( for me ) ..mistakes of a teenager with magic powers

[LobselVith8]

AlexXIV wrote...

I actually thought the mugging thing was meant to be sarcasm.

You're probably right. I'm starting to remember the Sir Pounce-A-Lot comments to Anders, and her later comments to Bethany about having a pet griffin named Feathers.

[Cutlass Jack]

Kogaion wrote...

is not the voice  that make her look a little girl ( for me ) is the fact that she is stubborn in her stupid quest  ..not listening to  her keeper ( she thinks she's smarter than an old keeper? )  like a teenager  would do ...she kills her clan ..she makes  her keeper sacrifice  for her (that being the only way to save her stupid ass) ...the mistakes that she makes through the whole game are unforgivable  ( for me ) ..mistakes of a teenager with magic powers

You've never met completely stubborn adults who always believe they're right no matter how many mistakes they make?

Perhaps I give too much credit to the relative ages of forum posters.

[The Angry One]

Kogaion wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Kogaion wrote...

that's you're oppinion ..as that was mine ofc ...but you are "the angry one" so i'm guessing you're just angry by default about my comment  (joke)

The point is people calling her a little girl have no basis.
Think about it, if Merril had a dominant voice like Morrigan's would you still call her a little girl?

is not the voice  that make her look a little girl ( for me ) is the fact that she is stubborn in her stupid quest  ..not listening to  her keeper ( she thinks she's smarter than an old keeper? )  like a teenager  would do ...she kills her clan ..she makes  her keeper sacrifice  for her (that being the only way to save her stupid ass) ...the mistakes that she makes through the whole game are unforgivable  ( for me ) ..mistakes of a teenager with magic powers

Considering that Marethari irresponsibly kept her clan in one location for 7 years and fell prey to a pride demon, yes. Merril is smarter than Marethari. Marethari may not be stupid, but her stubborness and pride did her in.
Her clan? Her clan are a bunch of psychos. Why should she listen to them? And again, she didn't kill them. They attacked. Were Merril and Hawke supposed to take it and die?

Edit: And stop assuming that becoming an abomination was the only way to "save" Merril. Only Marethari's own arrogance lead her to determine that.

Modifié par The Angry One, 07 avril 2011 - 05:46 .

[Iosev]

The Angry One wrote...

Kogaion wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Kogaion wrote...

that's you're oppinion ..as that was mine ofc ...but you are "the angry one" so i'm guessing you're just angry by default about my comment  (joke)

The point is people calling her a little girl have no basis.
Think about it, if Merril had a dominant voice like Morrigan's would you still call her a little girl?

is not the voice  that make her look a little girl ( for me ) is the fact that she is stubborn in her stupid quest  ..not listening to  her keeper ( she thinks she's smarter than an old keeper? )  like a teenager  would do ...she kills her clan ..she makes  her keeper sacrifice  for her (that being the only way to save her stupid ass) ...the mistakes that she makes through the whole game are unforgivable  ( for me ) ..mistakes of a teenager with magic powers

Considering that Marethari irresponsibly kept her clan in one location for 7 years and fell prey to a pride demon, yes. Merril is smarter than Marethari. Marethari may not be stupid, but her stubborness and pride did her in.
Her clan? Her clan are a bunch of psychos. Why should she listen to them? And again, she didn't kill them. They attacked. Were Merril and Hawke supposed to take it and die?

I think the big irony with that quest is how Marethari, out of her excessive desire in keeping Merrill from becoming possessed/endangered by a demon, endangers her entire clan (by not leaving Sundermount), and ultimately becomes an abomination herself.

[AlexXIV]

Funny, I think I only know 2 people who can completely resist demons. Hawke and my Grey Warden.

[hoorayforicecream]

Rifneno wrote...

Wow.  Very interesting.  After seeing some of those banters I missed, I have to agree.  She may be the best written character in this game.  ...  Shame about the bandana though.

I like the bandana. It gives her an iconic look... she's the only bandana-ed person in Kirkwall.

You realize those, too, are "sick jokes" except by the developers right?

"If someone offers you clams, just say no. The last time I had clams on the docks, I was sick for a week." She does love her snacks, doesn't she? 

[The Angry One]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I like the bandana. It gives her an iconic look... she's the only bandana-ed person in Kirkwall.

Too bad they had to add that tacky chin stud to that. I gleefully await the mod that erases it.

[Cutlass Jack]

AlexXIV wrote...

Funny, I think I only know 2 people who can completely resist demons. Hawke and my Grey Warden.

Bethany gets credit for completely resisting Demons too. Shame she wasn't as good at resisting the blight...

[Cutlass Jack]

The Angry One wrote...

Too bad they had to add that tacky chin stud to that. I gleefully await the mod that erases it.

They exist...but also give her Bethany's face in the process. Creepy...

[AlexXIV]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Funny, I think I only know 2 people who can completely resist demons. Hawke and my Grey Warden.

Bethany gets credit for completely resisting Demons too. Shame she wasn't as good at resisting the blight...

Bethany avoids demons. But Hawke and the Grey Warden can have a nice chat with the most powerful demons and even trick them. They are basically like the Maker compared to demons.

[hoorayforicecream]

The Angry One wrote...

Too bad they had to add that tacky chin stud to that. I gleefully await the mod that erases it.

I actually don't mind the chin stud that much... I just wish it was a bit better colored. It's too close to her flesh tone, so it looks a little like a strange mole depending on the lighting. If they can't find some way to fix that, then yeah I'd be right behind you in line to get the mod to erase it.

[The Angry One]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Too bad they had to add that tacky chin stud to that. I gleefully await the mod that erases it.

They exist...but also give her Bethany's face in the process. Creepy...

Yeah but I mean one that edits the hairstyle model (the stud is part of the hairstyle, that's DA game engine logic for you) so it's the same hairstyle and face without tacky bling.

[Kogaion]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Kogaion wrote...

is not the voice  that make her look a little girl ( for me ) is the fact that she is stubborn in her stupid quest  ..not listening to  her keeper ( she thinks she's smarter than an old keeper? )  like a teenager  would do ...she kills her clan ..she makes  her keeper sacrifice  for her (that being the only way to save her stupid ass) ...the mistakes that she makes through the whole game are unforgivable  ( for me ) ..mistakes of a teenager with magic powers

You've never met completely stubborn adults who always believe they're right no matter how many mistakes they make?

Perhaps I give too much credit to the relative ages of forum posters.

damn...i stepped in a "Merrill fan zone" ...i appologise ...i didn't want to bash your favorite character it was just how i saw things ...i'll take my leave now...

[Cutlass Jack]

The Angry One wrote...

Yeah but I mean one that edits the hairstyle model (the stud is part of the hairstyle, that's DA game engine logic for you) so it's the same hairstyle and face without tacky bling.

Yep That's a fine tradition started by Duncan and his Earring of Excellence.
<--points to avatar

[Cutlass Jack]

Kogaion wrote...

damn...i stepped in a "Merrill fan zone" ...i appologise ...i didn't want to bash your favorite character it was just how i saw things ...i'll take my leave now...

Actually she's my second least favorite companion in DA2. Not remotely a fan.

I've just met stubborn people of all ages in my life. I don't consider it an 'age' thing.

[PantheraOnca]

AlexXIV wrote...


If you give the book and the thief (Isabella) to the Qunari they leave peacefully. The only reason the Qunari came to Kirkwall was chasing Isabella who stole their book to begin with.

Ugh... I just turned Isabella over to the Qunari on my current playthrough last night, and i still feel dirty about it.

[AlexXIV]

PantheraOnca wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...


If you give the book and the thief (Isabella) to the Qunari they leave peacefully. The only reason the Qunari came to Kirkwall was chasing Isabella who stole their book to begin with.

Ugh... I just turned Isabella over to the Qunari on my current playthrough last night, and i still feel dirty about it.

You should feel bad about the Arishok. Because Isabella escapes again and even steals the book again. Which won't really increase the Arishok's respect among his brethren.

[Cutlass Jack]

PantheraOnca wrote...

Ugh... I just turned Isabella over to the Qunari on my current playthrough last night, and i still feel dirty about it.

On the plus side, she escapes three days later. With the book.

[barryl89]

I can't help loving Merrill. I loved her from the start. I almost wept when I made my Hawke rival her.
Isabela is a harlot and I want nothing to do with her! Of course I roleplayed it differently, just once.

Either way the only truely worthwhile romance in da:o is the Anora one. Well, I only did the male ones, I'm not big into playing females though I did go gay with Zevran while with Lelianna ;p. Then I dumped them both for Morrigan >.< Thats how little I cared for them.

Merrill made me care.

[wright1978]

I adored Isabela and to me Merrill's main use was to act as the clueless comic foil to my sarcasm. I enjoyed her story but wasn't the least bit attracted to her character. That's the point though in having to very different female LI that will be appealing to different people.

[PantheraOnca]

AlexXIV wrote...

PantheraOnca wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...


If you give the book and the thief (Isabella) to the Qunari they leave peacefully. The only reason the Qunari came to Kirkwall was chasing Isabella who stole their book to begin with.

Ugh... I just turned Isabella over to the Qunari on my current playthrough last night, and i still feel dirty about it.

You should feel bad about the Arishok. Because Isabella escapes again and even steals the book again. Which won't really increase the Arishok's respect among his brethren.

Actually, this line of reasoning will help me never feel compelled to do that again. I mostly did it for the "ah, its you again hawke" moment in da3 or wherever with the arishok, but i can't imagine he'd keep his position after 2 blunders with their Tome, so him being dead will be just fine.

[Rifneno]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Wow.  Very interesting.  After seeing some of those banters I missed, I have to agree.  She may be the best written character in this game.  ...  Shame about the bandana though.

I like the bandana. It gives her an iconic look... she's the only bandana-ed person in Kirkwall.

And a glowing spirit possession aura gives Anders an iconic look.  ...  Not always a good thing.

"If someone offers you clams, just say no. The last time I had clams on the docks, I was sick for a week." She does love her snacks, doesn't she? 

And it's seafood to boot.  Hmm.

Modifié par Rifneno, 07 avril 2011 - 06:47 .

[Volourn]

"Your female choices are a ****ty pirate and a naive blood mage. Not much of a choice really."

As opposed to a bipolar assassin who talks to dead people, or a mage who sexes them and leaves them while having no issues havings ex with anyone to perform a 'dark ritual'?

Not really any different than the pirate sex kitten with a concious or the child like blood mage?

L0LZ

For the record.. I'd rank them as this...
1. Morrigan (she came first) 2. Isabella ( one of the most complex characters in any BIO game) 3. Lariana (just because she actually looks and acts like an adult even if she is crazy) and 4. Merrill (i'm too old for little children)