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[xzxzxz701]

Almostfaceman wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

I feel they should bring back the squad as is and add no one new. As I've always said, if a crew member is dead in a game it's because the player made that choice and not because the Suicide Mission was to hard.

In my maleshep game, all the aliens are dead, because he doesn't like aliens. The last thing he wants is more aliens being shoved into the crew because they're just going to find a way to die.

If a player wants to play with a crew of 6 then let them. I have other Shepards that enjoy the company of aliens and would like to kill Reapers with them.

Plus some unique squad dialogue based on if someone is dead or not, like Miranda would be a little ticked off if you let Jacob die.

We don't need new squad mates, if they get rid of the current crew and bring in new people, then Mass Effect 2 will have to go down as the most worthless game ever made because the whole game is about building your crew, sure there is a side mission where you kill some collectors and a reaper jr but the main game is about the crew.

Its common sense to know that only a few ME2 squad mates will return to be on your crew, if even that. There will always be new squad mates, whether you like it or not.

Common sense is don't put a loaded gun to your head and pull the trigger.  Your opinion on what may or may not happen in a video game doesn't rise up to that standard. Your inflated self importance is amusing.

So is there any specific reason why you jump straight to insulting me? I never stated that my opinion was fact, but it does fall under the catagory of common sense, at least for me. Bioware is not going to make a dumb marketing move by bringing back the ENTIRE ME2 squad as ME3 squad mates, its basic common sense and a bad marketing move.

[Gentleman Moogle]

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

I feel they should bring back the squad as is and add no one new. As I've always said, if a crew member is dead in a game it's because the player made that choice and not because the Suicide Mission was to hard.

In my maleshep game, all the aliens are dead, because he doesn't like aliens. The last thing he wants is more aliens being shoved into the crew because they're just going to find a way to die.

If a player wants to play with a crew of 6 then let them. I have other Shepards that enjoy the company of aliens and would like to kill Reapers with them.

Plus some unique squad dialogue based on if someone is dead or not, like Miranda would be a little ticked off if you let Jacob die.

We don't need new squad mates, if they get rid of the current crew and bring in new people, then Mass Effect 2 will have to go down as the most worthless game ever made because the whole game is about building your crew, sure there is a side mission where you kill some collectors and a reaper jr but the main game is about the crew.

Its common sense to know that only a few ME2 squad mates will return to be on your crew, if even that. There will always be new squad mates, whether you like it or not.

I dearly love how some people state opinion as if it were fact. 

I can do it too. Watch:

"It's common sense to realize that if you spend an entire game building up a loyal team, Bioware won't send them all away and will instead bring them all back in the next game without adding any new squaddies to the list."

See? Easy. 

[Almostfaceman]

xzxzxz701 wrote...

So is there any specific reason why you jump straight to insulting me? I never stated that my opinion was fact, but it does fall under the catagory of common sense, at least for me. Bioware is not going to make a dumb marketing move by bringing back the ENTIRE ME2 squad as ME3 squad mates, its basic common sense and a bad marketing move.

You seriously can't see that you insulted anyone who doesn't agree with you by telling them they don't have "common sense"?  Your opinion is just that - your opinion.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 06 avril 2011 - 10:46 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Could you people stop making this thread? The thrill of debating the issue is gone.

Reasons to include old squadmates:
-Story continuity
-Fanbase
-Add relevance/weight to ME2
-More efficient to reuse than to make all new ones
-Rate of SM survival is very high; few players lost many people (source)

Reasons not to:
-ME3 must be fully playable by everyone
-Can't cheat new players out of content or bog them down with too many returning characters
-Better use of resources to focus on content everyone will experience

While rumors and hints from BW and a couple voice actors point to a few fan favorites returning, BW's track record for this sort of thing is fairly abysmal. Personally, I think hearing "sorry, I'm busy" twelve times in a row is a bad move, so I've got my fingers crossed that the devs will put some extra effort into this one.

[xzxzxz701]

Almostfaceman wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

So is there any specific reason why you jump straight to insulting me? I never stated that my opinion was fact, but it does fall under the catagory of common sense, at least for me. Bioware is not going to make a dumb marketing move by bringing back the ENTIRE ME2 squad as ME3 squad mates, its basic common sense and a bad marketing move.

You seriously can't see that you insulted anyone who doesn't agree with you by telling them they don't have "common sense"?  Your opinion is just that - your opinion.  Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't think I insulted anyone, and if I did I'm sorry. But my opinion still stands, it would be a bad marketing move on Biowares part.

EDIT: Forums ate my post.

Modifié par xzxzxz701, 06 avril 2011 - 11:03 .

[ISpeakTheTruth]

I have a strong feeling that Miranda will be coming back as a squadmember. If you notice in the SM she seems to be wearing plot armor. Even if she's not loyal she survives being the leader of the second team being the only unloyal person to survive the shot to the stomach. If I'm not mistaken you have to go out of your way to make her die so it seems like the team wanted her to survive into ME3.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

My theory is that the VS will return, as will everyone who has DLC armor (so, all LIs -Jacob, +Grunt. No I don't think Grunt will be your new LI. SHUT UP.)  I also expect to see Legion back, because he is plot. If Mordin comes back, he will be an NPC who doesn't leave your science lab.

Everyone else is up in the air. But I'd be surprised to see fewer than 6 squaddies come back.

And yes, while Bioware has a terrible record here, ME is different from any Bioware game or series so far.

[Elite Midget]

The definition of screwed tends to be based upon the opinion of the user. For example.

VS fans feel they got screwed.

VS Haters feel they got more than they should have.

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 07 avril 2011 - 03:08 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Elite Midget wrote...

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

I'll arm wrestle you to prove that my opinion is mightier and thus you are wrong.

Side-note: As a VS "hater," I must confess that Horizon was a rather dick move from Bioware.  I may dislike the characters, but honestly, they can do better.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 07 avril 2011 - 03:58 .

[Quole]

Elite Midget wrote...

The definition of screwed tends to be based upon the opinion of the user. For example.

VS fans feel they got screwed.

VS Haters feel they got more than they should have.

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? I swear if you are NOT trolling, im going to kill myself...maybe.

Modifié par Quole, 07 avril 2011 - 04:00 .

[Gentleman Moogle]

Quole wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

The definition of screwed tends to be based upon the opinion of the user. For example.

VS fans feel they got screwed.

VS Haters feel they got more than they should have.

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? I swear if you are NOT trolling, im going to kill myself...maybe.

It's all speculation at this point. No one knows for certain (Except for a few Bioware employees who are surprisingly resistant to cash bribes) who is and who won't be in the next game. Except for Joker, EDI, and Shepard, of course.

[Quole]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Quole wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

The definition of screwed tends to be based upon the opinion of the user. For example.

VS fans feel they got screwed.

VS Haters feel they got more than they should have.

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? I swear if you are NOT trolling, im going to kill myself...maybe.

It's all speculation at this point. No one knows for certain (Except for a few Bioware employees who are surprisingly resistant to cash bribes) who is and who won't be in the next game. Except for Joker, EDI, and Shepard, of course.

Oh Im well aware of that. I was asking how he knows that BECAUSE everything is in speculation and nothing has been confirmed and am sick of his consistancy to not listen to logic.

Modifié par Quole, 07 avril 2011 - 04:04 .

[Gentleman Moogle]

Quole wrote...

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Quole wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

The definition of screwed tends to be based upon the opinion of the user. For example.

VS fans feel they got screwed.

VS Haters feel they got more than they should have.

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? I swear if you are NOT trolling, im going to kill myself...maybe.

It's all speculation at this point. No one knows for certain (Except for a few Bioware employees who are surprisingly resistant to cash bribes) who is and who won't be in the next game. Except for Joker, EDI, and Shepard, of course.

Oh Im well aware of that. I was asking how he knows that BECAUSE everything is in speculation and nothing has been confirmed and am sick of his consistancy to not listen to logic.

.... I'd explain, but I haven't taken my valium today. 

If you're that curious, do a forum search for "variables that haunt". 

[AdmiralCheez]

Quole wrote...

Oh Im well aware of that. I was asking how he knows that BECAUSE everything is in speculation and nothing has been confirmed.

Confidence born of ignorance.  The cycle cannot be broken.  The patten has repeated itself more times than you can fathom. Organic civilizations rise, evolve, advance and at the apex of their glory, Elite ruins the fun with Facts and Logic™.

He makes some excellent points when he's not pitching a fit about how everyone else is wrong.  Really.  Get past the vitriol and you'll see why others share his position.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 07 avril 2011 - 04:06 .

[Elite Midget]

I can read between the lines very well and I understand that Bioware is a creature of habit. Which I might add has repeated the same thing over and over again over a long time period.

[Quole]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Quole wrote...

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Quole wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

The definition of screwed tends to be based upon the opinion of the user. For example.

VS fans feel they got screwed.

VS Haters feel they got more than they should have.

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? I swear if you are NOT trolling, im going to kill myself...maybe.

It's all speculation at this point. No one knows for certain (Except for a few Bioware employees who are surprisingly resistant to cash bribes) who is and who won't be in the next game. Except for Joker, EDI, and Shepard, of course.

Oh Im well aware of that. I was asking how he knows that BECAUSE everything is in speculation and nothing has been confirmed and am sick of his consistancy to not listen to logic.

.... I'd explain, but I haven't taken my valium today. 

If you're that curious, do a forum search for "variables that haunt". 

Yeah... I know, I have been to that thread, but it does not change the fact that nothing has been confirmed and so there is no way to know what will happen in ME3.

[Gentleman Moogle]

I do believe it's miller time.

Y'all s'cuse me.

*GLUGLUGLUGLUGLUGLUGLUGLUG*

Mu'sh be'her. *hic*

[CulturalGeekGirl]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Though yes, the killables wont be returning as Squaddies.

I'll arm wrestle you to prove that my opinion is mightier and thus you are wrong.

Side-note: As a VS "hater," I must confess that Horizon was a rather dick move from Bioware.  I may dislike the characters, but honestly, they can do better.

See, I love Kaidan, and while Horizon annoyed me at first, I've come to terms with it. The fundamental idea of "Meet your old squadmate, they don't agree with your new team, so they can't come..." that's not a bad idea.

I hated Kaidan at first, but he grew on my slowly during ME1. His casual lack of racism, his kind of understandable wussiness, it all became sort of charming. By the end of the game, I was pretty infatuated.

I think Horizon was kind of a dick move in some ways...  but I hope that it was meant as a sort of "permission" to go and try something else out. I mean, I'm sure there'll be some kind of confrontation and consequences in ME3, but it might be something as simple as the VS/Liara showdown in ME1.

It will be a dick move if Bioware portrays Horizon as "your fault" rather than the VS admitting that they were also at fault. I've said this before, but in my mind Kaidan is kicking himself every day for sending me that stupid, wussy email... just like any normal person does when they write a bad email to an ex. Not that I would know what that is like.

[AdmiralCheez]

@CGG: Yeah, thinking about it, Horizon wasn't so bad. It did what it was meant to do, and did it well. Let's raise our glasses to ME3 and hope for Kaishley's triumphant return!

Because, as much as I found them "meh," I miss 'em.

[Almostfaceman]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

I do believe it's miller time.

Y'all s'cuse me.

*GLUGLUGLUGLUGLUGLUGLUGLUG*

Mu'sh be'her. *hic*

Please pass me one.

[Akizora]

It wouldnt make sense to reintroduce all 12 characters from ME2, they won't have time to develop them all and introduce them all to new players while also dealing with the storyline and conclusion of the trilogy in ME3. It would make sense for them to reintroduce the most popular characters that make sense in the story however and a few new ones that also fit into the story. I suppose we'll know more once information starts to get out there, maybe at E3 or around then.

[JayhartRIC]

It'll take more time to develop new characters, won't it?