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[Maria Caliban]

If you granted a boon to the mages at the end of DA:O, Leliana mentions that tensions are high because of 'what happened at the Circle in Ferelden.'

So... what happened? Did the Chantry try to forcibly reclaim the Circle? Did another Uldred pop up and turn everyone into abominations? Did a magical experiment go awry and turn the tower into a smoking crater?

[The Angry One]

Maybe she means tensions are high *because* of the boon, that being "what happened"?

[Herr Uhl]

Maria Caliban wrote...

So... what happened? Did the Chantry try to forcibly reclaim the Circle? Did another Uldred pop up and turn everyone into abominations? Did a magical experiment go awry and turn the tower into a smoking crater?

I think she is talking about Uldred.

[Maria Caliban]

The line only triggers if you gave the Circle the boon.

The Angry One wrote...

Maybe she means tensions are high *because* of the boon, that being "what happened"?

David suggested there was more to it than that. I'll try to find his post.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 06 avril 2011 - 07:44 .

[AshenEndymion]

The Templars never allowed Ferelden to free the mages of the Circle. And so Ferelden refused to allow the Templars to search for apostates within their borders.

At least, that's the explanation of the conversation between Meredith and Alistair, from what I recall.

[errant_knight]

Maria Caliban wrote...

David suggested there was more to it than that. I'll try to find his post.

Interesting! Can't wait to see!

[Avissel]

That would be my guess. It would certainly cause tension if one of the nations basically went against chantry law.

[KJandrew]

I thought David said that the chantry told Alistair to "bugger off"

[TobiTobsen]

Maria Caliban wrote...

The line only triggers if you gave the Circle the boon.

The Angry One wrote...

Maybe she means tensions are high *because* of the boon, that being "what happened"?

David suggested there was more to it than that. I'll try to find his post.

If I'm not totally wrong David Gaider said that the Chantry blocked the boon and now we have the situation that Alistair describes if you meet him as King. The Circle is still controlled by the templars/chantry but Alistair refuses to send new found mages to the circle and hides these "apostates"/doesn't allow searches for them. Meredith is not happy about it, because Kirkwall Mages are fleeing to Ferelden and the Chantry is probably pissed to.

That's maybe one of the reasons for the rising tensions between Orlais and Ferelden.

Modifié par TobiTobsen, 06 avril 2011 - 07:50 .

[errant_knight]

AshenEndemion wrote...

The Templars never allowed Ferelden to free the mages of the Circle. And so Ferelden refused to allow the Templars to search for apostates within their borders.

At least, that's the explanation of the conversation between Meredith and Alistair, from what I recall.

Wow! That's huge. No wonder Meredith was so pissed with Alistair, and a great reason for him to be trying to avoid her. Good for him! While this may only get mentioned if you chose that boon, I'd be willing to bet that it always happens, no matter what, if this is true. It's too big a point of contention between Ferelden and the Chantry not to happen across all games.

I find this notion fairly exciting.

Modifié par errant_knight, 06 avril 2011 - 07:50 .

[KJandrew]

 i found the quote

David Gaider wrote...

It does come up, actually.

Keep in mind, however, that the kingdom doesn't control the Circle of Magi. That conversation no doubt went a little like this:

King/Queen: "We would like mages in Ferelden to be free."
Chantry: "No."  

Modifié par KJandrew, 06 avril 2011 - 07:51 .

[jlb524]

Is the result similar if Anora is Queen instead, I wonder?

[Maria Caliban]

Oh.. neat! I ought to do that as my boon next time.

*huggles save game editor*

[TobiTobsen]

jlb524 wrote...

Is the result similar if Anora is Queen instead, I wonder?

It's the same. Even the Queen **** is hiding the apostates. At least that's what I heard.

[sphinxess]

Alistair doesnt have the forces to kick the Templars out - but the Templars dont have the forces to go against Alistair <unless they get a divine march declared> is what Im getting

[Giltspur]

There's also this from here: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/304/index/6901812#6911204

David Gaider wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...
In the first point, given that the extra line only happens if your Warden freed the Fereldan circle (and King Alistair doesn't indicate anything to the contrary when you meet him...and neither does Queen Anora), it seems logical and reasonable to presume she's directly refering to the warden boon....or is there something else we don't know about?  [I can only go with what's presented in the game]

There's something else you don't know about.

Modifié par Giltspur, 06 avril 2011 - 07:57 .

[BigEvil]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Is Orlais still planning the invasion if Loghain is still kicking? I wouldn't if I were them. You don't **** around with the Hero of River Dane

In my playthroughs Loghain has been sent by the Wardens to Orlais. After all, when there are Orlesian Ploys on the go you might need to go to the source to put a stop to them. Loghain's got everything under control.

It'll be interesting to see what they do with the Ferelden Circle in future games in relation to the boon, stopping apostate hunting and the rebellions/war.

[The Angry One]

What interests me is, given the Circle uprisings, the Ferelden Circle is more likely to side with Ferelden while the others will be pretty much on their own, making the relatively weakest country (thanks to the Blight) the strongest in the war.

[Maria Caliban]

TobiTobsen wrote...

It's the same. Even the Queen **** is hiding the apostates. At least that's what I heard.

Not that Anora cares about the apostates.

Messanger: The Orlesean backed Chantry says we don't get to decide what goes on in the Ferelden Circle.
Queen Anora: Hmmm... what would daddy do?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 06 avril 2011 - 08:07 .

[errant_knight]

*claps hands with glee* This is awesome. I so hope it's true.

[TobiTobsen]

Maria Caliban wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

It's the same. Even the Queen **** is hiding the apostates. At least that's what I heard.

Not that Anora cares about the apostates.

Messanger: The Orlesean back Chantry says we don't get to decide what goes on in the Ferelden Circle.
Queen Anora: Hmmm... what would daddy do?

Daddy would be proud of her. Denying those orlesian pricks the right to search for apostates. Thats his girls! Even if she always remains six years old with pig tails and skinned knees.