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[Bekkael]

Just once during the game I would have loved to see a bit of reactivity to the PC using blood magic. Particularly if you are romancing Anders or Fenris. Wouldn't it be consistent with the stance of those characters to get in Hawke's face about him/her spraying blood all over them in every battle?

Since blood magic is the Big Bad of Thedas, I think if a PC chooses to specialize in it, there should be some fallout from it. Even party banter that mentions it would have been nice. After all, Merrill isn't the only one that deserves to be spanked. :innocent:

[DoNotIngest]

Yes, I dearly would have loved to tear off Anders' and Fenris' faces for ****ing at me and my girl about Blood Magic.


18 months just isn't enough time to implement all of the various pathways and effects that being a blood mage could produce. They would have either had to go for all of the major reactions (and taken a lot more time to make the game), or just pretend it wasn't there; It wouldn't do to have only a couple of out-of-place reactions to Blood Magic. So they ignored it

[Shepard Lives]

Blood mage mind tricks.


These are not the apostates you're looking for.

[Bekkael]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Yes, I dearly would have loved to tear off Anders' and Fenris' faces for ****ing at me and my girl about Blood Magic.


18 months just isn't enough time to implement all of the various pathways and effects that being a blood mage could produce. They would have either had to go for all of the major reactions (and taken a lot more time to make the game), or just pretend it wasn't there; It wouldn't do to have only a couple of out-of-place reactions to Blood Magic. So they ignored it

I know it would be extra work, but it's such a HUGE part of the story, and the reason why you kill so many mages. I just want one character to throw me a bone. Anything to prove Hawke doesn't operate in a vacuum.

[DoNotIngest]

Bekkael wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Yes, I dearly would have loved to tear off Anders' and Fenris' faces for ****ing at me and my girl about Blood Magic.


18 months just isn't enough time to implement all of the various pathways and effects that being a blood mage could produce. They would have either had to go for all of the major reactions (and taken a lot more time to make the game), or just pretend it wasn't there; It wouldn't do to have only a couple of out-of-place reactions to Blood Magic. So they ignored it

I know it would be extra work, but it's such a HUGE part of the story, and the reason why you kill so many mages. I just want one character to throw me a bone. Anything to prove Hawke doesn't operate in a vacuum.

Oh, believe me, I agree. While DA2 was, by itself, a fun enough game, it left me with a "What that game could have been!" lament  bouncing around the inside of my skull. With an extra year, hell, even two years, of development, that game would probably have shone brightly to me. With two years extra (sadly more than it actually took this game to be developped), it probably would have outdone Origins (which took a lot longer than 3.5 years), nostalgia be damned.

[Bekkael]

At least someone shares my pain. I guess I will have to look to fan fiction to soothe it...again.

[obnoxiousgas]

But your Hawke is so subtle the way they... gauge a hole in themselves with their own staff.

Yeah, I'd have liked one of the companions to maybe mention it. "So Hawke, I can't help but notice you've been a bit more... holey as of late."

[Forst1999]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Yes, I dearly would have loved to tear off Anders' and Fenris' faces for ****ing at me and my girl about Blood Magic.


18 months just isn't enough time to implement all of the various pathways and effects that being a blood mage could produce. They would have either had to go for all of the major reactions (and taken a lot more time to make the game), or just pretend it wasn't there; It wouldn't do to have only a couple of out-of-place reactions to Blood Magic. So they ignored it

I doubt this was a matter of time. In DA:O they also scrapped reactions to it. They just don't want your build having an impact on the story. You can argue wheter this is good or not, but i think they just like it better this way.

Modifié par Forst1999, 06 avril 2011 - 09:28 .

[DoNotIngest]

"Yes, I've been visiting the Chantry more often."

New dialogue style: Dodgy Hawke.





Edit: They didn't really have time for anything non-linear in this game. I'm not trying to bash, as I liked it, especially some of the characters. But 1.5 years compared to DAO's development time (Mainly I've seen people say 7 years, others say 4.5) makes me sad, though they seem to use their time more efficiently now than they did on DAO.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 06 avril 2011 - 09:30 .

[sereture]

Yes, there should definitely be a blood mage specific dialogue with Fenris and Anders (and maybe Merrill)!

And some sort of reactions if you talk against blood magic while using it yourself.

[Bekkael]

sereture wrote...

Yes, there should definitely be a blood mage specific dialogue with Fenris and Anders (and maybe Merrill)!

And some sort of reactions if you talk against blood magic while using it yourself.

Yep, I busted Merrill's chops in one playthrough about her blood magic. All while using it constantly myself. Kinda made me LOL at my schizo character.

[Knight of Dane]

What about your siblings?
They're around for a special, they might as well react on what you choose too.
And both of them oppose blood magic.

[fighterchick]

I'd like for a reaction to magic in general, not including companions. I love as a Mage!Hawke you can do magic right in front of Cullen and he doesn't even notice. "Mages aren't people like you and me!" Uh...yeah, Cullen, mages are just like my PC since she is in fact, a mage!

[stjasonl1]

He even comments with disgust when he sees blood magic "What was that foul magic?"

Modifié par stjasonl1, 06 avril 2011 - 10:17 .

[DoNotIngest]

stjasonl1 wrote...

He even comments with disgust when he sees blood magic "What was that foul magic?"

Yes, I love it when you're with Idunna and Blood Mage Hawke cries the damning "Blood magic!"... Makes me laugh every time.

[Bekkael]

fighterchicks wrote...

I'd like for a reaction to magic in general, not including companions. I love as a Mage!Hawke you can do magic right in front of Cullen and he doesn't even notice. "Mages aren't people like you and me!" Uh...yeah, Cullen, mages are just like my PC since she is in fact, a mage!

That's right! I forgot how that bugged me. I wanted Cullen to go all hard Templar on me. (no pun intended)

I also remember how Meredith doesn't notice diddly squat when you are going after the Arishok's men together. I swear, I impaled myself on my staff at least half a dozen times.

[Emperor Iaius I]

It's not just the work that's the issue. The writers have said they don't want to make the game massively harder for somebody just because they chose a specialization. To add to that, even though I'd love blood magic reactions, you'd have to imagine that people who pick every other specialization would want some too.

Sometimes a little suspension of disbelief is required, and we pretend that our Hawke isn't cocky enough to use blood magic right in front of the giant Andraste statue in the Chantry. . .


. . . no matter how fun it is to do so.

[Bekkael]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

It's not just the work that's the issue. The writers have said they don't want to make the game massively harder for somebody just because they chose a specialization. To add to that, even though I'd love blood magic reactions, you'd have to imagine that people who pick every other specialization would want some too.

Sometimes a little suspension of disbelief is required, and we pretend that our Hawke isn't cocky enough to use blood magic right in front of the giant Andraste statue in the Chantry. . .


. . . no matter how fun it is to do so.

No other specialization is The Big Bad though. When I play other classes, I don't expect a reaction to Templar skills, for instance. Although Reaver should garner the same reaction as blood magic, since it is basically the warrior equivalent, is it not?

[DoNotIngest]

Bekkael wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

It's not just the work that's the issue. The writers have said they don't want to make the game massively harder for somebody just because they chose a specialization. To add to that, even though I'd love blood magic reactions, you'd have to imagine that people who pick every other specialization would want some too.

Sometimes a little suspension of disbelief is required, and we pretend that our Hawke isn't cocky enough to use blood magic right in front of the giant Andraste statue in the Chantry. . .


. . . no matter how fun it is to do so.

No other specialization is The Big Bad though. When I play other classes, I don't expect a reaction to Templar skills, for instance. Although Reaver should garner the same reaction as blood magic, since it is basically the warrior equivalent, is it not?

Except it doesn't really use magic, does it? Just creepy.

[Bekkael]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

It's not just the work that's the issue. The writers have said they don't want to make the game massively harder for somebody just because they chose a specialization. To add to that, even though I'd love blood magic reactions, you'd have to imagine that people who pick every other specialization would want some too.

Sometimes a little suspension of disbelief is required, and we pretend that our Hawke isn't cocky enough to use blood magic right in front of the giant Andraste statue in the Chantry. . .


. . . no matter how fun it is to do so.

No other specialization is The Big Bad though. When I play other classes, I don't expect a reaction to Templar skills, for instance. Although Reaver should garner the same reaction as blood magic, since it is basically the warrior equivalent, is it not?

Except it doesn't really use magic, does it? Just creepy.

I explain it as my warrior drinking some sort of potion such as Avernus' concoction- like at Warden's Keep. There has to be some magic at work here...it's just...ingested? Please, do ingest.

[frustratemyself]

It would be nice to get a reaction especially after you did in DAO. In the broken circle quest Wynne dobs you in to Greigor for using blood magic.
Some snarky comments at the very least.....

[DoNotIngest]

Bekkael wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

It's not just the work that's the issue. The writers have said they don't want to make the game massively harder for somebody just because they chose a specialization. To add to that, even though I'd love blood magic reactions, you'd have to imagine that people who pick every other specialization would want some too.

Sometimes a little suspension of disbelief is required, and we pretend that our Hawke isn't cocky enough to use blood magic right in front of the giant Andraste statue in the Chantry. . .


. . . no matter how fun it is to do so.

No other specialization is The Big Bad though. When I play other classes, I don't expect a reaction to Templar skills, for instance. Although Reaver should garner the same reaction as blood magic, since it is basically the warrior equivalent, is it not?

Except it doesn't really use magic, does it? Just creepy.

I explain it as my warrior drinking some sort of potion such as Avernus' concoction- like at Warden's Keep. There has to be some magic at work here...it's just...ingested? Please, do ingest.

I thought it was your character roaring and laughing maniacally as he's battered about, and going on an insane rampage

[legbamel]

I thought at least a +15 rivalry for Fenris for taking the specialization would have worked. I do love it when my super-nasty blood mage yells, "I'm going to gut you, blood mage!" before using blood magic to do so, however.

[Bekkael]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

It's not just the work that's the issue. The writers have said they don't want to make the game massively harder for somebody just because they chose a specialization. To add to that, even though I'd love blood magic reactions, you'd have to imagine that people who pick every other specialization would want some too.

Sometimes a little suspension of disbelief is required, and we pretend that our Hawke isn't cocky enough to use blood magic right in front of the giant Andraste statue in the Chantry. . .


. . . no matter how fun it is to do so.

No other specialization is The Big Bad though. When I play other classes, I don't expect a reaction to Templar skills, for instance. Although Reaver should garner the same reaction as blood magic, since it is basically the warrior equivalent, is it not?

Except it doesn't really use magic, does it? Just creepy.

I explain it as my warrior drinking some sort of potion such as Avernus' concoction- like at Warden's Keep. There has to be some magic at work here...it's just...ingested? Please, do ingest.

I thought it was your character roaring and laughing maniacally as he's battered about, and going on an insane rampage

Reaver lets a warrior suck health from enemies. That makes it a blood power, doesn't it? *shrugs* That's what I always took it to be anyway.

[Bekkael]

legbamel wrote...

I thought at least a +15 rivalry for Fenris for taking the specialization would have worked. I do love it when my super-nasty blood mage yells, "I'm going to gut you, blood mage!" before using blood magic to do so, however.

Definitely LOL-worthy. The rivalry option would have been nice too...but it would have had to include other party members that disapprove of blood magic (like Anders). It could have also included a friendship increase from Merrill...or a fist bump in conversation. I'm easy to please.

Modifié par Bekkael, 06 avril 2011 - 11:10 .