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Cold-blooded staff-badly designed?


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Bones40

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

maegi46 wrote...

Amioran wrote...

maegi46 wrote...

Some people can complain about anything. Example "I didn't ask to be born!" These forums sure have a lot of them it seems.


That's a nihilistic concept that's much more profound than what you are trying to make it be. It doesnt mean "I don't want to live", but more "the world is pain" (that's also a buddhistic concept, and it doesn't mean being "emo" but just understanding the nature of existence).

It is a profound argument so trying to resolve it in a game forum is outside my intent. Just pointing out that making fun of things you don't clearly understand will turn you as one that has made a bad figure, instead of your presumed "I'm fun and smart!" intent.


Don't assume you know how I meant words I used for the sake of argument. I meant it in the context it was used in not in any religious way. As in people that complain about everything for no reason. I didn't ask to be born why should I have to listen to what you say as my parents? I didn't ask to be born why should I have to follow these rules?

Or more relevant my teen age son when arguing once said it after I said "You should be grateful to have a roof over your head and almost anything you want provided for free" and he said "I didn't ask to be born, should I thank  you for doing what the law requires you to do?" It's that whole self entitlement thing.


(I find the idea that children owe a debt of some kind their parents for food and shelter to be laughable.  If you choose to have a child, that sort of thing is your responsibility to provide for that child, to deal with the consequences of the choice that you made.  They don't owe you anything for it.)


Nobody has yet said anything about kids owing a debt to parents for taking care of them.  What was said is that they should be "grateful" for the various things parents do and sacrafice for their kids.  Is this expected of parents?  Of course, but kids should still appreciate those things and be grateful for them in light of the lives many children suffer through around the world (abuse, starvation, war, genocide, homelessness, parentlessness etc.)

All people, not just children, should constantly remind themselves of all the little (and big) things they can and should be grateful for in their lives.  Otherwise, they turn into self entitled pricks who think the world owes them anything they want.  And nobody likes a self entitled ******, not even other self entitled pricks.

And yes, kids should know who's in charge...and it shouldn't be them.

On topic: I am currently slogging through act 2 with Valdesine, saving up for cold blooded.  The closer I get to affording it, however, the less likely it seems I'll actually fork over the 113 sovereigns it costs.  It just doesn't seem worth that much money.

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Perfect-Kenshin

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All things related to mages (excluding blood magic) is badly designed.

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aethernox

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Perfect-Kenshin wrote...

All things related to mages (excluding blood magic) is badly designed.


No, not really. The only major design flaw, in my opinion, is that Fire spells have low base damage, and the designers compensate by making +%Fire damage the only +%element that is randomly generated. There are two spells that do fire damage, and yet the vast majority of +%element gear boosts fire damage, and the largest amount of end-game staves are Fire-typed.

Everything else seems relatively okay. I wish they'd given us Mana Clash so that the Spirit tree wasn't worthless on Nightmare, but it makes up for the fact that Walking Bomb curbstomps every other difficulty.

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The only thing flawed about mages is the staff itemization. They scale terribly in Acts 2 and 3. Cold-Blooded included. Badly designed in and of itself? Nah, I'd say Cold-Blooded is decent. But it becomes obsolete extremely quickly. I don't think it's really worth the gold when it gets out-DPS'd by jank staves pretty quickly.

The most efficient staff "set" to use would be:
Torch of Falon'Din
Jank spirit staff
Jank cold staff
Jank lightning staff
Jank nature staff (unnecessary in the grand scheme of things, but sort of handy to have around)

aka don't spend gold on staves, just find ones that drop. You can obviously spend a sovereign or two to pick up a random staff that supplies any element you're missing, but no "big-wig" purchases are really needed (I have gotten to the endgame with my mage doing this). The majority of mage auto-attack DPS gains is from exploiting the right elemental weakness to begin with. So spend your gold on the real stuff, like the Robes of Unblemished Cleanliness if you're so inclined.

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godlike13

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aethernox wrote...
No, not really. The only major design flaw, in my opinion, is that Fire spells have low base damage, and the designers compensate by making +%Fire damage the only +%element that is randomly generated. There are two spells that do fire damage, and yet the vast majority of +%element gear boosts fire damage, and the largest amount of end-game staves are Fire-typed.


This. Firestorm rocks, but Fireball is practically useless. Not to mention the lack of CCC.

Also it would have been nice if the gave WB more of a practical radius. Don't get me wrong, i still love the damn thing, just think they cut down the radius a bit too much.

My pet-peeve with the mage staffs are that there should have been more variety to the generics visual design. Why have cool blade staffs designs when they only make up like 5% of the staffs.

Modifié par godlike13, 11 avril 2011 - 07:37 .


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Matt 2108

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Does the +30% cold damage add to the base damage of the staff or just Winter's Grasp and Cone of Cold? If the former it out damages The Final Thought, doesn't it? Just seems like the perfect staff for Merrill... not mention it's awesome looking.

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aethernox

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It adds to all cold damage that you deal. This is different than from adding to the staff's base damage, since its base damage is linked to the damage that your spells do. If it did affect the staff's base damage, Cold-Blooded would increase your cold spell damage by 30% twice.

That's mostly just semantics, though. Yes, it increases your auto-attack damage by 30%. It does out-damage the final thought, but the final thought does better damage with all of your other spells.

As much as I like Cold-Blooded, the bonuses aren't good enough. It isn't feasible to use a single staff through-out the game on nightmare, and you lose a teensy bit of damage by using one of the 48+ base damage staves that drop end-game, but you don't have to spend that 130g. A fair trade off, in my opinion.

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MOTpoetryION

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Im suprised at you all for all the talk about staffs and not one i guess noticed ,like i have the biggest flaw about all staffs. In the listing of attributes they all state not just a + mana attribute but they all list the /stamina as well. But staffs can only be used by mages so why bother listing the /stamina at all.

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sren't all items mana/stamina to generalise?

Quite frankly I found it quite annoying to find items only doing the one when you could just restrict them to class...