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[CroGamer002]

Mister Mida wrote...

Yeah, I watched it yesterday. It was funny, but certainly not one of his best reviews.

He has good reviews?

Modifié par Mesina2, 07 avril 2011 - 07:04 .

[CroGamer002]

DominusVita wrote...

Sigh... someone needs to get a hobby.

In May I might start responding to his videos.
With microphone.

Since I won't go to school anymore I'll have some free time so this might be my hobby.



Priority 1 is his fanfic of ME2 because it has plotholes, stuff that doesn't make any sense, retcons, "WTF is left for ME3 then" and "you do know games have budget" moments.

Modifié par Mesina2, 07 avril 2011 - 07:13 .

[Mister Mida]

I can't stop being surprised how obsessively ME2 fans are in discrediting Smudboy, with Mesina and Squee taking home the grand prize.

[JKoopman]

I was rather unimpressed considering how much I enjoyed his plot analysis videos. It seemed like he got bogged down too much on trivial details and petty mockery and didn't spend enough time really elaborating on the core issues with the DLC. Namely, why they didn't dismantle The Project if they were all indoctrinated and had no intention of launching it, why they didn't restrain Shepard after he was incapacitated, why the Normandy didn't come looking for him after 2 days, why a mech control station was conveniently inside the holding cell, how an asteroid the size of a "small planet" was able to be accelerated all the way out of the asteroid field and reach the relay in less than 2 hours when it should realistically take something like a decade or more, why you couldn't resume your warning to the batarian colonists after Kenson interrupted you, how the whole thing undermines the plot of ME2 and how it basically breaks the narrative if you do it before the Suicide Mission. He gave those maybe one sentence each (or in some cases didn't even mention them at all) but goes on for like 5 minutes about how Shepard isn't stealthy enough to go on a stealth mission and how the captured recon team were obsessed with seafood...?

Modifié par JKoopman, 07 avril 2011 - 07:18 .

[Remus Artega]

Mister Mida wrote...

I can't stop being surprised how obsessively ME2 fans are in discrediting Smudboy, with Mesina and Squee taking home the grand prize.

I concur... BTW mesina why don't you make your own reviews instead of bashing reviews of other reviewer?...

[CroGamer002]

Mister Mida wrote...

I can't stop being surprised how
obsessively ME2 fans are in discrediting Smudboy, with Mesina and Squee
taking home the grand prize.

lol wut?

Dude, smudboy has so much of an epic failures in his videos while at the same times he is very offensive when you disagree with him( pretty much reason why he got temp-ban many times and in the end perma-ban on BSN).

smudboy deserves to get smacked for a little bit.


Also squee913 discovered smudnoy recently.

Remus Artega wrote...
 I concur... BTW mesina why don't you make your own reviews instead of bashing reviews of other reviewer?...

I have plans to make reviews on Youtube but I never got enough free time for that.
Also first thing I'll do with smudboy is gonna be a review.

Modifié par Mesina2, 07 avril 2011 - 07:26 .

[Gust4v]

I kinda agree with some points.

Potential wasted.

[Remus Artega]

Really if he is that bad and wrong then by normal perception of the game he will never make any difference in minds of the viewers does he? They will just give a f**k on what he thinks...yet you are spending time to pinpoint his "faults"...it is the same as responding to videos of fans of Justin Bieber...so either you recognize him as worthy of humiliation and thus you must have at least a little bit respect for him or you are just another troll with too much time on his hands...

Modifié par Remus Artega, 07 avril 2011 - 07:32 .

[Remus Artega]

DP

Modifié par Remus Artega, 07 avril 2011 - 07:31 .

[CroGamer002]

Remus Artega wrote...

Really if he is that bad and wrong then by normal perception he will never make any difference in minds of the viewers does he? They will just give a f**k on what he thinks...yet you are spending time to pinpoint his "faults"...it is the same as responding to videos of fans of Justin Bieber...so either you recognize him as worthy of humiliation and thus you must have at least a little bit respect for him or you are just another troll with too much time on his hands...

Thanks for the good laugh.

[Remus Artega]

If that is all you have to say...I'll go with the latter

[Babli]

lol Mesina, you are such a fanboy. If you at least said something about video and tried to prove his points wrong but you just activate your "I must defend best game ever" mode and keep on ignoring facts or good points.

Modifié par Babli, 07 avril 2011 - 09:25 .

[CroGamer002]

Babli wrote...

lol Mesina, you are such a fanboy. If you at least said something about video and tried to prove his points wrong but you just activate your "I must defend best game ever" mode and keep on ignoring facts or good points.

That was like 8 months ago.

By that time I learned what NOT to do while responding to some video.


Besides I'm not talking about that video( since squee913 nailed on that issue), I'm talking about smudboy's fanfic where he fixes Mass Effect 2 which I'll try to do this May.



And no I did not ignore some of his good points.

[GuardianAngel470]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

Man I wish I knew how to make internet videos.

Maybe... I should learn? I have iMovie!

Mac User >

Just kidding. It's pretty easy. I don't know how iMovie works but I've used a variety of other software to make videos for things.

Me and a friend once made a really cool video about how the Earth was made. I keep forgetting to upload it to youtube...

As far as a video review, you'll need to record youself talking which I'd assume iMovie can handle then record video from Mass Effect 2. The latter would be the real time sink.

I tend not to pay much attention to Smudboy. He was never a very nice forumite and his criticisms were never very well articulated. I distinctly remember insults coming often. Usually I can sift through the insults and things to get to the heart of a matter but with him I just stopped trying.

[squee913]

Saphra Deden wrote...

squee913 wrote...

You know, I take it back... jokes are great, but only when they are related to a point. This feels like he is just trying way too hard to be funny. It just get worse and worse..... I finally get the feeling that he is just trying to show that he can be funnier than me.... Not that that is hard, but....

Stop obsessing over him. You'd do a better job defending ME2 if you focused your videos on explaining why the game is good and why it works and not ever mentioning Smudboy at all. If you did it that way people would draw their own conclusions and the truth in your vision would be clear for all to see.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. I said what I wanted to say. I never had a problem with his views, just the arguments used to uphold them. So I refuted them. I said what i wanted to, he was able to respond (even added them as actual responses to my videos) and that's that. I'm going back to making Let's Plays. :happy:
I don't see how commenting about them here makes me any more "obsessed" than any of you. I am simply speaking my mind like everyone else. As for the people that think you are a troll because you make a video refuting someone else's argument; doesn't that mean that any one who has every tried to refute something someone else said on this forum is a troll? I mean, instead of debating them, you could have just made your own thread. How dare you naughty people! He took the time to make a very detailed analysis, and I felt it deserved a response in kind. This does not make me anymore a troll than anyone else who makes a wall of text to refute a wall of text.

[Katamariguy]

Actually, I found it excellent.

[The Big Nothing]

Humor aside, as it's subjective anyway, I liked the review. Some of his points legitimately made me like Mass Effect less, and that's how you know someone is right. Well, right-ish.

[Autoclave]

I don't understand people that defend so vehemently the Mass Effect 2 plot. People like you regard smudboy as some sort of heretic that dared to raise against your religion. 

Why cannot you just admit it to yourself that ME2 has a fantastic gameplay and a crappy plot? You are trying to see ME2 as the ultimate gaming experience and feel coerced to defend whatever inconsistency the game is throwing at you. 

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Seen the review. What a disaster.

He spends too much time trying to be funny (and failing at it), while also bringing up a plot-hole, that don't exist.

[lastpatriot]

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Stopped at 3:48. He doesn't even know what he is talking about.

/AGREED

His review was rather pointless and his arguments had little value.  Overall, I really enjoyed the DLC though I wish it could have been a bit longer.  ME:2, to include all the DLC thus far, has been beyond what I would normally expect from a game and is why I still enjoy playing it so much today.

[squee913]

Autoclave wrote...

I don't understand people that defend so vehemently the Mass Effect 2 plot. People like you regard smudboy as some sort of heretic that dared to raise against your religion. 

Why cannot you just admit it to yourself that ME2 has a fantastic gameplay and a crappy plot? You are trying to see ME2 as the ultimate gaming experience and feel coerced to defend whatever inconsistency the game is throwing at you. 

Probably because... try to grasp this concept... a lot of use actually like the plot. Sure it has it's flaws, but it is still a great story. 
Here is something that might be even harder to grasp... Not everyone has the same opinion as you. Some people can see the exact same thing you do and come to a different conclusion. And you know what? That does not make them, fanboys, religious fanatics, or even less intelligent. It just makes them normal.

[squee913]

lastpatriot wrote...

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Stopped at 3:48. He doesn't even know what he is talking about.

/AGREED

His review was rather pointless and his arguments had little value.  Overall, I really enjoyed the DLC though I wish it could have been a bit longer.  ME:2, to include all the DLC thus far, has been beyond what I would normally expect from a game and is why I still enjoy playing it so much today.

Your banner is awesome!  And kinda creepy... 

[aimlessgun]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

aimlessgun wrote...

It should be recognized though, if people saw something as a plothole, "it really isn't, let me explain!" is no excuse for a writer. Their failure of perception is a failure on the writer's part to communicate effectively.

OK, but what if it's because those people who failed to perceive just aren't very bright? 

Yes. If "never leave anything up to the imagination" becomes the new default rule for all media, I guess I'm going to have to go back to reading Shakespeare. Ugh.

If all plot points must be so transparent that the dumbest person who could ever watch your movie will instantly understand what is going on, it's very difficult to be subtle. That's how you get Twilight.

There's a difference between something that is subtle, and something that is unclear/confusing and can easily be interpreted in a different manner.

If you're knocked out of a story by a 'huh?' moment, and you have to go through some convoluted rationalization that is entirely outside the story to get it to work, that is a problem with the story. If the story actually gave you hints so you could understand this and you missed them, then it might be your fault.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

xzxzxz701 wrote...

Stopped at 3:48. He doesn't even know what he is talking about.

Wow. You're good, I stooped at 0:25!

I thought I could watch but I just couldn't.

This would be much more enjoyable if he was straight to the point without trying to be funny because he fails at it IMO or using sarcasm and irony because it hurts his argumentation - I could add his way of speaking, god it's irritating that sound of saliva, tonge, I don't know, wtf -. I also can't stand that he has to always to try to shove his opinion that ME2 is the worst sequel ever (he already spent 6 videos on that) or that the ME2 has no plot (stupidest idea ever) at people's *****.

Potential, wasted.

Modifié par RyuGuitarFreak, 07 avril 2011 - 02:09 .

[piemanz]

squee913 wrote...

Autoclave wrote...

I don't understand people that defend so vehemently the Mass Effect 2 plot. People like you regard smudboy as some sort of heretic that dared to raise against your religion. 

Why cannot you just admit it to yourself that ME2 has a fantastic gameplay and a crappy plot? You are trying to see ME2 as the ultimate gaming experience and feel coerced to defend whatever inconsistency the game is throwing at you. 

Probably because... try to grasp this concept... a lot of use actually like the plot. Sure it has it's flaws, but it is still a great story. 
Here is something that might be even harder to grasp... Not everyone has the same opinion as you. Some people can see the exact same thing you do and come to a different conclusion. And you know what? That does not make them, fanboys, religious fanatics, or even less intelligent. It just makes them normal.

This.

The plot is actually very good if you spend your time trying to understand it rather than ripping it apart and disecting it.Most of the people who complain about it don't seem to understand whats going on in my opinion.You can blame the writers all you like but ultimately it's not their problem if you can't grasp the bigger picture.

That said, i found this review quite humerous.