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[darth_lopez]

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

*snip*

The force on the Presidium is centrifugal force.  People are not being steered toward the center of the Presidium, they are being forced to walk on the floor-plane of the Presidium.  People are not capable of walking up the side of the elevator.  Because of the spinning motion and the smaller diameter of the Presidium, its gravity is 1/3 that of the gravity on the ward arms, which operate in a larger diameter.

is that the exact codex entry?

and i'm pretty sure the force is centripetal not centrifugal, although teh 2 are quite easy to confuse.

On the subject of lower ravity, We see the affects of this on geth bodies and krogan corpses as they float away when we shoot them Depending on the force they fall back down slowly. so it obviously has some sort of gravity to it. There is no point in which the game demonstrates magnetic boots and this is the only experience walking vacuum in the citadel There isn't enough evidence to support or debunk Magetic boots(although i am of the opinion that they are there there just isn't enough evidence.)

[Almostfaceman]

darth_lopez wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...
*snip*

Look, you're quibbling at this point.  My points are all perfectly logical and probable in my opinion. 

If I'm fighting those four-legged Colossus Geth on the ground - I want the Mako handy.  Ship sensors tell me the enemy forces are advancing, I drop to stop them, the Mako is there for that.

I already gave points that the mako would be handy However stealth would be equally handy here too. Whatever shepards actual reason for taking the mako i doubt we'll ever actually know. But Stealth and Brute force we both equally handy there.

My point about high-altitude covert parachute drops still stands, unless you cannot really imagine a scenario that this could be implemented - do I really have to draw you up a scenario?

Not in mass effect no i can't imagine a scenario. Real life there are plenty  But in Mass effect they don't really seem to need parachutes. they seemingly have frigates and drop ships for everything.  You could draw me up a scenario though if you think it would help your point.

The zero-gee point about Ash is that she has training not typical of an infantryman of this time period.  Don't read into it any more than that.

Her training is nto typical to this time period no But the zero-gee portion of her training still stems from practicality. It is practical in Mass Effect to train Troops in Zero G Fighting. Here It's not because why? They will never experience it.  I would think retro-boosters more likely at this point to be included in the armor some where or as an attachment for Zero G combat. But we never see zero g combat so it can't beconfirmed. What we do know is that the Make employs retro-boosters to slow decent instead of a parachute(surpised no one pointed that out until now)

I'm special ops Mass Effect dude.  I need to infiltrate a home and take subject X out.  I need to do it without alerting the nearby base.

The home has sensors that can pick up the Mako immediately.  A human body will look like a sparrow on those sensors.  Those sensors will not go on alert since a lot of sparrows fly around the area.

To stay out the sensor range of the nearby base, the Normandy stays at high altitude.

Special Ops Mass Effect dude jumps out of the Normandy and parachutes down to the home and proceeds infiltration from that point.

There ya go.  None of this is impossible in the Mass Effect universe.

[darth_lopez]

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

*snip*

The force on the Presidium is centrifugal force. People are not being steered toward the center of the Presidium, they are being forced to walk on the floor-plane of the Presidium. People are not capable of walking up the side of the elevator. Because of the spinning motion and the smaller diameter of the Presidium, its gravity is 1/3 that of the gravity on the ward arms, which operate in a larger diameter.

is that the exact codex entry?

and i'm pretty sure the force is centripetal not centrifugal, although teh 2 are quite easy to confuse.

On the subject of lower ravity, We see the affects of this on geth bodies and krogan corpses as they float away when we shoot them Depending on the force they fall back down slowly. so it obviously has some sort of gravity to it. There is no point in which the game demonstrates magnetic boots and this is the only experience walking vacuum in the citadel There isn't enough evidence to support or debunk Magetic boots(although i am of the opinion that they are there there just isn't enough evidence.)

[Almostfaceman]

darth_lopez wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

*snip*

The force on the Presidium is centrifugal force.  People are not being steered toward the center of the Presidium, they are being forced to walk on the floor-plane of the Presidium.  People are not capable of walking up the side of the elevator.  Because of the spinning motion and the smaller diameter of the Presidium, its gravity is 1/3 that of the gravity on the ward arms, which operate in a larger diameter.

is that the exact codex entry?

and i'm pretty sure the force is centripetal not centrifugal, although teh 2 are quite easy to confuse.

On the subject of lower ravity, We see the affects of this on geth bodies and krogan corpses as they float away when we shoot them Depending on the force they fall back down slowly. so it obviously has some sort of gravity to it. There is no point in which the game demonstrates magnetic boots and this is the only experience walking vacuum in the citadel There isn't enough evidence to support or debunk Magetic boots(although i am of the opinion that they are there there just isn't enough evidence.)

I got that information from the codex here:  Feel free to check it out if you wish.

[darth_lopez]

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...
*snip*

Look, you're quibbling at this point.  My points are all perfectly logical and probable in my opinion. 

If I'm fighting those four-legged Colossus Geth on the ground - I want the Mako handy.  Ship sensors tell me the enemy forces are advancing, I drop to stop them, the Mako is there for that.

I already gave points that the mako would be handy However stealth would be equally handy here too. Whatever shepards actual reason for taking the mako i doubt we'll ever actually know. But Stealth and Brute force we both equally handy there.

My point about high-altitude covert parachute drops still stands, unless you cannot really imagine a scenario that this could be implemented - do I really have to draw you up a scenario?

Not in mass effect no i can't imagine a scenario. Real life there are plenty  But in Mass effect they don't really seem to need parachutes. they seemingly have frigates and drop ships for everything.  You could draw me up a scenario though if you think it would help your point.

The zero-gee point about Ash is that she has training not typical of an infantryman of this time period.  Don't read into it any more than that.

Her training is nto typical to this time period no But the zero-gee portion of her training still stems from practicality. It is practical in Mass Effect to train Troops in Zero G Fighting. Here It's not because why? They will never experience it.  I would think retro-boosters more likely at this point to be included in the armor some where or as an attachment for Zero G combat. But we never see zero g combat so it can't beconfirmed. What we do know is that the Make employs retro-boosters to slow decent instead of a parachute(surpised no one pointed that out until now)

I'm special ops Mass Effect dude.  I need to infiltrate a home and take subject X out.  I need to do it without alerting the nearby base.

The home has sensors that can pick up the Mako immediately.  A human body will look like a sparrow on those sensors.  Those sensors will not go on alert since a lot of sparrows fly around the area.

To stay out the sensor range of the nearby base, the Normandy stays at high altitude.

Special Ops Mass Effect dude jumps out of the Normandy and parachutes down to the home and proceeds infiltration from that point.

There ya go.  None of this is impossible in the Mass Effect universe.

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Parachute leaves you exposed to visual identification only works if they arne't looking up. Also the human body would certaintly make a large blip than a sparrow. Dropping right ontop of the position is probably not wise Shot down by vigiliant watchman.

But i see your example would it not be better though for say a jet pack or something? To be used to slow decent instead of the parachute. It offers more control than a shute it's less visible in say the night sky than a shoot and They should have some sort of back pack that would function similarly enough to a jetpack for zero gee combat in ME.

The only problem now is that shepard is not wearing the likley existing Jetpack. When he falls to Alchera there are no obvious areas on his suit for automated retro-boosters to kick in, there is still no obvious area on the suit that could be used to house a parachute and Nothing that remotely suggests Airbreaks (don't work in space(the only real zero-g environment) retro-boosters used as breaks instead)

I still can't agree to An automated Parhcute system, or Airbreaks. Jet pack like piece of equipment yes(more practical in ME). The other two not so much. :/

[esideras]

Who pissed in this guys coffe?

[darth_lopez]

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

*snip*

The force on the Presidium is centrifugal force.  People are not being steered toward the center of the Presidium, they are being forced to walk on the floor-plane of the Presidium.  People are not capable of walking up the side of the elevator.  Because of the spinning motion and the smaller diameter of the Presidium, its gravity is 1/3 that of the gravity on the ward arms, which operate in a larger diameter.

is that the exact codex entry?

and i'm pretty sure the force is centripetal not centrifugal, although teh 2 are quite easy to confuse.

On the subject of lower ravity, We see the affects of this on geth bodies and krogan corpses as they float away when we shoot them Depending on the force they fall back down slowly. so it obviously has some sort of gravity to it. There is no point in which the game demonstrates magnetic boots and this is the only experience walking vacuum in the citadel There isn't enough evidence to support or debunk Magetic boots(although i am of the opinion that they are there there just isn't enough evidence.)

I got that information from the codex here:  Feel free to check it out if you wish.

tahnk you i was trying to find that one i clicked the wrong article on the citadel though xD
But still there really isn't enough evidence to support gravitation or magna boots can we not talk about this one though. theres just no examples that can really be used for it in anything :/

[darth_lopez]

esideras wrote...

Who pissed in this guys coffe?

Hey hey....it was the damnable cold virus. Find a way to kill it and i will be very pleased with you and subsequently stop typing (is getting tired of typing)

Unless you're talking about smuds review. In which case that's just smud.

Modifié par darth_lopez, 10 avril 2011 - 07:07 .

[Almostfaceman]

darth_lopez wrote...

end result
Parachute leaves you exposed to visual identification only works if they arne't looking up. Also the human body would certaintly make a large blip than a sparrow. Dropping right ontop of the position is probably not wise Shot down by vigiliant watchman.

But i see your example would it not be better though for say a jet pack or something? To be used to slow decent instead of the parachute. It offers more control than a shute it's less visible in say the night sky than a shoot and They should have some sort of back pack that would function similarly enough to a jetpack for zero gee combat in ME.

The only problem now is that shepard is not wearing the likley existing Jetpack. When he falls to Alchera there are no obvious areas on his suit for automated retro-boosters to kick in, there is still no obvious area on the suit that could be used to house a parachute and Nothing that remotely suggests Airbreaks (don't work in space(the only real zero-g environment) retro-boosters used as breaks instead)

I still can't agree to An automated Parhcute system, or Airbreaks. Jet pack like piece of equipment yes(more practical in ME). The other two not so much. :/

You don't have to agree to the automated parachute, there's room for you and I to disagree on this.

To answer your questions about my scenario - parachute at night using night vision.  Jet packs would create an energy signature the base could pick up at that range.  Home sensor system is not designed well enough to distingush between people and sparrows at the range the drop is in.  Closer to the home, sensors in the yard and on the windows do more to distinguish between human and squirrel/sparrow.

I'm sure you get the general point. 

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 10 avril 2011 - 07:14 .

[ReluctantMind]

We seem to have wandered off topic overall and I apologize if this was already pointed out, but Ashley's zero gravity training appears to be standard training for marines. She specifically states at one point in ME "every marine a rifleman, every rifleman ZG(zero gravity) certified".

[JKoopman]

This has got to be the most pointless debate I've ever borne witness to. We've been arguing for the last ~10 pages over the plausibility of whether or not Shepard's suit has some sort of automated parachute or air-braking system built in because IF it did and IF it allowed him to avoid burning up on reentry then it's possible for his body/brain to have survived relatively intact and therefor slightly more plausible for him to be resurrected with all his memories and personality preserved. Which still doesn't do anything to discount the point that the death and resurrection scene was pointless and unnecessary or make the reasoning behind his resurrection any less questionable.

However, the burden of proof is always on the challenger. It's not up to me to prove that Bigfoot DOESN'T exist. It's up to you to prove that Shepard DID have a parachute or air brakes. Unless you can point to some specific evidence--be it a codex entry or reference--indicating that parachutes and/or air brakes are standard issue on Alliance N7 armor, I can only conclude that it's just as likely that the Flying Spaghetti Monster stretched out His noodley appendage, caught Shepard and deposited his body safely on the ground below. Both have the same substantiation supporting them.

ReluctantMind wrote...

We seem to have wandered off topic overall and I apologize if this was already pointed out, but Ashley's zero gravity training appears to be standard training for marines. She specifically states at one point in ME "every marine a rifleman, every rifleman ZG(zero gravity) certified".

Zero G Certified doesn't mean "specced for reentry". It just means certified for combat in zero gravity environments (eg: boarding a ship without artificial gravity).

Modifié par JKoopman, 10 avril 2011 - 07:32 .

[darth_lopez]

Almostfaceman wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

end result
Parachute leaves you exposed to visual identification only works if they arne't looking up. Also the human body would certaintly make a large blip than a sparrow. Dropping right ontop of the position is probably not wise Shot down by vigiliant watchman.

But i see your example would it not be better though for say a jet pack or something? To be used to slow decent instead of the parachute. It offers more control than a shute it's less visible in say the night sky than a shoot and They should have some sort of back pack that would function similarly enough to a jetpack for zero gee combat in ME.

The only problem now is that shepard is not wearing the likley existing Jetpack. When he falls to Alchera there are no obvious areas on his suit for automated retro-boosters to kick in, there is still no obvious area on the suit that could be used to house a parachute and Nothing that remotely suggests Airbreaks (don't work in space(the only real zero-g environment) retro-boosters used as breaks instead)

I still can't agree to An automated Parhcute system, or Airbreaks. Jet pack like piece of equipment yes(more practical in ME). The other two not so much. :/

You don't have to agree to the automated parachute, there's room for you and I to disagree on this.

To answer your questions about my scenario - parachute at night using night vision.  Jet packs would create an energy signature the base could pick up at that range.  Home sensor system is not designed well enough to distingush between people and sparrows at the range the drop is in.  Closer to the home, sensors in the yard and on the windows do more to distinguish between human and squirrel/sparrow.

I'm sure you get the general point. 

I did not think about the energy signatures.  But yes i do see your point. But still an Automated system i think is pushing it. But you ahve convinced me that parachutes would likeli never dissapear totally.


As far as sheps landing i think it's more likley his fall was broken by ice...and more ice...and more ice... To the point he may have landed severey mangled but could have been mostly intact. I don't think however anything but ice slowed him down in his decent.

But i think we can agree parchutes probably exist still, not sure about armor integration and i still think it's doubtful one was deployed. and The airbreaks are still just totally ridicoulous i could see specialized Suits using them i can't see general suits using them.

[Almostfaceman]

JKoopman wrote...

This has got to be the most pointless debate I've ever borne witness to. We've been arguing for the last ~10 pages over the plausibility of whether or not Shepard's suit has some sort of automated parachute or air-braking system built in because IF it did and IF it allowed him to avoid burning up on reentry then it's possible for his body/brain to have survived relatively intact and therefor slightly more plausible for him to be resurrected with all his memories and personality preserved. Which still doesn't do anything to discount the point that the death and resurrection scene was pointless and unnecessary or make the reasoning behind his resurrection any less questionable.

However, the burden of proof is always on the challenger. It's not up to me to prove that Bigfoot DOESN'T exist. It's up to you to prove that Shepard DID have a parachute or air brakes. Unless you can point to some specific evidence--be it a codex entry or reference--indicating that parachutes and/or air brakes are standard issue on Alliance N7 armor, I can only conclude that it's just as likely that the Flying Spaghetti Monster stretched out His noodley appendage, caught Shepard and deposited his body safely on the ground below. Both have the same substantiation supporting them.

ReluctantMind wrote...

We seem to have wandered off topic overall and I apologize if this was already pointed out, but Ashley's zero gravity training appears to be standard training for marines. She specifically states at one point in ME "every marine a rifleman, every rifleman ZG(zero gravity) certified".

Zero G Certified doesn't mean "specced for reentry". It just means certified for combat in zero gravity environments (eg: boarding a ship without artificial gravity).

If it's a pointless debate - why are you here? To wow us all with how smart you are in detecting pointless debates?

What you consider a burden of proof does not involve me.  I played the game, this is the reasoning I used when I played the game, I'm relating it to to people on the board to discuss.  If you don't agree with it fine.  Don't.  But please don't pretend I have to check my reasoning past the JKoopman Badge of Approval Process.

[JKoopman]

Almostfaceman wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

This has got to be the most pointless debate I've ever borne witness to. We've been arguing for the last ~10 pages over the plausibility of whether or not Shepard's suit has some sort of automated parachute or air-braking system built in because IF it did and IF it allowed him to avoid burning up on reentry then it's possible for his body/brain to have survived relatively intact and therefor slightly more plausible for him to be resurrected with all his memories and personality preserved. Which still doesn't do anything to discount the point that the death and resurrection scene was pointless and unnecessary or make the reasoning behind his resurrection any less questionable.

However, the burden of proof is always on the challenger. It's not up to me to prove that Bigfoot DOESN'T exist. It's up to you to prove that Shepard DID have a parachute or air brakes. Unless you can point to some specific evidence--be it a codex entry or reference--indicating that parachutes and/or air brakes are standard issue on Alliance N7 armor, I can only conclude that it's just as likely that the Flying Spaghetti Monster stretched out His noodley appendage, caught Shepard and deposited his body safely on the ground below. Both have the same substantiation supporting them.

ReluctantMind wrote...

We seem to have wandered off topic overall and I apologize if this was already pointed out, but Ashley's zero gravity training appears to be standard training for marines. She specifically states at one point in ME "every marine a rifleman, every rifleman ZG(zero gravity) certified".

Zero G Certified doesn't mean "specced for reentry". It just means certified for combat in zero gravity environments (eg: boarding a ship without artificial gravity).

If it's a pointless debate - why are you here? To wow us all with how smart you are in detecting pointless debates?

What you consider a burden of proof does not involve me.  I played the game, this is the reasoning I used when I played the game, I'm relating it to to people on the board to discuss.  If you don't agree with it fine.  Don't.  But please don't pretend I have to check my reasoning past the JKoopman Badge of Approval Process.

It's pointless because even if we all suddenly agree (which we're not) that it's totally plausible for Shepard's suit to have an automatic parachute and air brakes, it doesn't do anything to counter the crux of the issue. It's a trivial point that's somehow become the focus of half the thread and it's simply bogging the debate down.

You have no proof that Shepard's armor has a parachute or airbrakes built in, and it's impossible to prove that it doesn't. So what's the point of continuing to argue about it?

Modifié par JKoopman, 10 avril 2011 - 08:07 .

[squee913]

There is more evidence to support the possibility of some sort of system for breaking their fall built into the armor. At the beginning of ME1 When they are approaching Eden prime, Nihlus runs off the ship like he was late for dinner. There is no way to tell exactly how far off the ground they were, but they were moving as a fast speed due to the wind and they was very little chance Nihlus could have made that kind of jump with out injury unless he had some way of controlling his decent. It wasn't fast ropes since they would be useless at those speeds. Considering we never see the Normandy touch down when Shep, kadian, and Leeroy hit the ground, it is likely they used the same method Nihlus used.

As for the plausibility of soldiers having such a system. Look, I was just a ground pounder. Never did air borne, But even I went through extensive training to hop off a helicopter hovering above the ground, or to fast rope down. When assaulting form the air, speed is paramount, and the fastest was to reach the ground is a controlled fall. Injuries during fast roping, or parachuting are very high, even with training. If the military had a way to prevent this, they certainly would. Any soldier that served on a ship that could deploy them on the ground, would likely have this safety measure.


Wait.... Koop has a badge? Why does he get a badge? I want one!!!!

[darth_lopez]

squee913 wrote...

There is more evidence to support the possibility of some sort of system for breaking their fall built into the armor. At the beginning of ME1 When they are approaching Eden prime, Nihlus runs off the ship like he was late for dinner. There is no way to tell exactly how far off the ground they were, but they were moving as a fast speed due to the wind and they was very little chance Nihlus could have made that kind of jump with out injury unless he had some way of controlling his decent. It wasn't fast ropes since they would be useless at those speeds. Considering we never see the Normandy touch down when Shep, kadian, and Leeroy hit the ground, it is likely they used the same method Nihlus used.

We did see the normandy not too high above the ground however for Shep and co. And nihulus is the only instance in both games where that occurs :/

As for the plausibility of soldiers having such a system. Look, I was just a ground pounder. Never did air borne, But even I went through extensive training to hop off a helicopter hovering above the ground, or to fast rope down. When assaulting form the air, speed is paramount, and the fastest was to reach the ground is a controlled fall. Injuries during fast roping, or parachuting are very high, even with training. If the military had a way to prevent this, they certainly would. Any soldier that served on a ship that could deploy them on the ground, would likely have this safety measure.

wasn't aware injury rates were high for parchuting and fast ropes. That does likley change things.

Modifié par darth_lopez, 11 avril 2011 - 04:06 .

[squee913]

darth_lopez wrote...

squee913 wrote...

There is more evidence to support the possibility of some sort of system for breaking their fall built into the armor. At the beginning of ME1 When they are approaching Eden prime, Nihlus runs off the ship like he was late for dinner. There is no way to tell exactly how far off the ground they were, but they were moving as a fast speed due to the wind and they was very little chance Nihlus could have made that kind of jump with out injury unless he had some way of controlling his decent. It wasn't fast ropes since they would be useless at those speeds. Considering we never see the Normandy touch down when Shep, kadian, and Leeroy hit the ground, it is likely they used the same method Nihlus used.

We did see the normandy not too high above the ground however for Shep and co. And nihulus is the only instance in both games where that occurs :/

True, true. It proves nothing, but it adds a little weight behind the idea.

As for the plausibility of soldiers having such a system. Look, I was just a ground pounder. Never did air borne, But even I went through extensive training to hop off a helicopter hovering above the ground, or to fast rope down. When assaulting form the air, speed is paramount, and the fastest was to reach the ground is a controlled fall. Injuries during fast roping, or parachuting are very high, even with training. If the military had a way to prevent this, they certainly would. Any soldier that served on a ship that could deploy them on the ground, would likely have this safety measure.

wasn't aware injury rates were high for parchuting and fast ropes. That does likley change things.

Think Black Hawk Down (if you've ever seen it)
Fast roping, and parachuting even more so, is dangerous at the best of times. One wrong landing, one missed grab, one parachute that was not perfectly packed, and you are injured/crippled. And this is without the distractions of combat. Parachutes have you landing on the ground usually between 15-20 miles an hour. There are very few Airborne who have not at least sprained an ankle.

Modifié par squee913, 11 avril 2011 - 04:26 .

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

maybe in the future you can survive huge falls because of mass effect.

[didymos1120]

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

maybe in the future you can survive huge falls because of mass effect.

Well, actually, you can.  We've seen biotics exploit this idea a few times. 

ETA: Also, it's why the Mako doesn't smash itself to bits when the Normandy drops it onto a planet/moon or it falls from some ridiculous height: "The Mako is powered by a sealed hydrogen-oxygen fuel cell, and includes a small element zero core. While not large enough to nullify the vehicle's mass, the core can reduce it enough to be safely air-dropped. When used in conjunction with the thrusters, it also allows the Mako to extricate itself from difficult terrain."

Modifié par didymos1120, 11 avril 2011 - 05:20 .

[squee913]

didymos1120 wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

maybe in the future you can survive huge falls because of mass effect.

Well, actually, you can.  We've seen biotics exploit this idea a few times. 

ETA: Also, it's why the Mako doesn't smash itself to bits when the Normandy drops it onto a planet/moon or it falls from some ridiculous height: "The Mako is powered by a sealed hydrogen-oxygen fuel cell, and includes a small element zero core. While not large enough to nullify the vehicle's mass, the core can reduce it enough to be safely air-dropped. When used in conjunction with the thrusters, it also allows the Mako to extricate itself from difficult terrain."

True, but those were done while they were... you know... not dead  I don't think Shep could have used biotics to help. As for Mass Effect feilds... who knows.

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

no but his suit probably automates the use of mass effect fields. even if he's dead.

[Autoclave]

Bwahaha! I haven't read so many hilarious explanations to resurrection of Shepard Cyber Jesus for a long time

Why are you ppl trying to defend this crap when the plot writers didn't even show they cared about it much?

[spacehamsterZH]

You know, at this point, I really think if SmugButt hates Mass Effect so much, maybe he should just find himself another game franchise with fewer plotholes to obsess over. Like, I dunno, Pac-Man? Seriously, I thought he raised some good points in his analysis of ME2, but this one's really just him desperately reaching for things to criticize no matter how small they are, and his attempts at being funny without blatantly ripping off Plinkett are just groan-inducing.

[piemanz]

Autoclave wrote...

Bwahaha! I haven't read so many hilarious explanations to resurrection of Shepard Cyber Jesus for a long time

Why are you ppl trying to defend this crap when the plot writers didn't even show they cared about it much?

Really?, i don't remember one explanation for his ressurection in the whole thread. We dont need an explanation for his ressurection because we already know the lazarus project brought him back and rebuilt him. Is that so hard to understand?, or would you like us 'defenders' to explain it to you?

Most of the last few pages have been explaining how he landed on the planet intact and we seem to reach a consesus that it was entirley possible and actually fairly likely even without a breaking system on his suit.

But you're welcome to try and prove us wrong.

Modifié par piemanz, 11 avril 2011 - 03:08 .

[Gemini1179]

I'm not watching it and I'm not reading through 20 pages. Does he even mention how BIOWARE continually makes Shepard a complete idiot so that they can steer the plot where they want? I mean come on, not record your conversation with a Reaper once, shame on you, not record your conversation with a Reaper twice, you're an f-ing idiot.

Oh well, I suppose this means we're going to be treated to an 'engaging' and 'emotional' Shepard-must-answer-for-charges-and-then-be-hung-out-to-dry-as-a-scapegoat scene from Alliance brass. If only there were a Renegade interrupt allowing you to pull out your gun and shoot everyone in the room. Yeah, I totally shot the good Doctor. Even my Paragon Shep has had enough of this galaxy's BS. She's getting too old for this ...