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[The Angry One]

Really? THAT fight? Just pause when it does it's crushing prison aoe and run everyone out of it.

[Faust1979]

Filament wrote...

The pride demon on the docks?

yeah

[BanksHector]

That is what I was thinking when I first posted but you said it was the other one so i deleted my first reply. I would just drag small groups away from the main area around corners so you are only fighting small numbers instead of taking them on all at once.

[Camilladilla]

Faust1979 wrote...

Filament wrote...

The pride demon on the docks?

yeah

Have your group hold position by the stairs leading to the Qunari compound and have Ave pull the groups to em.

[AshenEndymion]

Slight discomfort on Casual... it's "the blue ring of utter death and destruction" on Hard when you didn't realize the Pride demon spawned.

That fight was fun on my first game....

[AshenEndymion]

Hybris is different (I had no trouble with him). But when that thing on the Docks hits you with the crushing prison AOE(Rogue Hawke, Isabella, and Aveline) just as the blood mage dies, you're kind of screwed when the 12 shades that were next to the pride demon come in and slaughter the group.

I'm just saying that fight isn't a breeze, and can understand just about any discomfort with it..  At least until on figures out how to fight the Pride demon.

Modifié par AshenEndemion, 07 avril 2011 - 05:35 .

[Nathanmaxtro]

This fight was giving me lots of trouble as well.

What I did to finish it was send Isabella off to where the Pride demon spawned and have everybody else take care of the other baddies.

With the right tactics, spec and gear Isabella can kill the demon by herself. By keeping the demon far from the group and focused on her, it can be killed without causing any trouble to the rest of the group.

[Firky]

Haha. This is exactly the one that had me drop from hard to casual for 8 (or possibly more) attempts.

1. Run away whenever blue circle appears.
2. Ignore the pride demon until everyone is dead.
3. Does Aveline have taunt? Put "defensive shield" (?) on and use taunt so most of the shades follow her. Focus the other 3 party members on taking out one shade at a time.
4. If someone is getting surrounded, or if Merrill is even approached, run away.
5. Use abilties that damage whenever you can. If you can stun, use that whenever you can too.

(These tips are for casual, obviously, in case they attract ire. I was shamelessly, shamelessly casual in this fight. A couple of tries, observe what the enemy is doing and run away when required. You'll get it.)

[Firky]

Nathanmaxtro wrote...

With the right tactics, spec and gear Isabella can kill the demon by herself.

That sounds like something I'd like to try 2nd time through. What tactics, spec and gear? 

[Icy Magebane]

The most important part is just not getting caught in the gravity ring... the rest is just a matter of using whatever attacks you have handy.

Oh, and here's a fun fact: Horror works on any creature, even bosses.

[Sesshomaru47]

Faust1979 wrote...

Filament wrote...

The pride demon on the docks?

yeah

That's some woman then, not some guy. Blood mage to be precise and it's easy on casual providing your party has someone can do AOE...Also haste...oh how I love thee hastey haste....

[lobi]

Filament wrote...
 avoid the Blue Ring of Slight Discomfort.

Oh you!,
I always throw some points into health and fortitude even for my mages. Having twenty in health keeps mages and rogues alive against Arishok specials, and twenty Fortitude stops most knockbacks and keeps stuns short.

[Suron]

Faust1979 wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

Not sure if serious.

why wouldnt I be serious?

because if you're really not able to pass a fight, at least on the second try, while playing on casual...it shows a level of suck unheard of before.

seriously..casual almost plays itself.  I'm playing my 3rd time through on casual and you almost literally don't even need a healer.

again but if you can't pass a fight on casual don't blame the game or bioware for it.  Because you are all kinds of terrible at the game.

learn strategy and what health pots do.  Throw anders in there if you have him.

[Arnyhold]

You dont need a healer. All you need is a rogue and a mage with the entropy spell that decreases defense and grant 100% citchance. The fight that lasted for minutes ends in seconds trust me (and this is not the only combo).

[Sordel]

Pride demon wiped my party first time on Normal - it's a harder fight than most - but that was because I was looking at the rest of the trash and not noticing what killed me. I just focused fire on the demon second time and that group died quick. Having a single-target dps such as Isabella or Assassin Hawke is very handy there, but, either way, you have to hit that enemy with your primary cooldowns.

[jussyr]

Icy Magebane wrote...

The most important part is just not getting caught in the gravity ring... the rest is just a matter of using whatever attacks you have handy.

Oh, and here's a fun fact: Horror works on any creature, even bosses.

Except the High Dragon.

[kinna]

For me the worst thing about this fight was that because of Isabela bug whenever I started to cast Tempest, at least one maybe two or three shades instantly attacked my mage and because the casting motion was still on I always died from their attacks. Also forgetting to set the group on hold made them always run to the wrong place, usually Anders running from shades directly to the blue circle. Great fun...

[tiernanls]

im sorry dude, and im not trying to kick a man while hes down but serioulsy. after i finished one playthrough on nightmare the reward i gave myself was playing subsequent playthroughs on casual. and no joke dude. never had to do anything but mash x (play on ps3) over and over on casual. very rarely a party member or two would die but never all of them. and that was with me as a mage. no abilites, nothing. just button of awesomeness over and over.

if youre having full party meltdown trouble at ALL on casual and especially if its repeatedly in teh same fight and you know whats coming i HAVE to assume you have no idea how to assign attribute points and talent builds in a game like this. if tahts the case popping on a message board to ask about a specific fight isnt the solution. you need to find an instructional site that explains important attributes for each class, and effective talent builds. you have to do taht first before you can begin to undertstand what half the suggestions in this thread are really suggesting.

again, i dont think youre stupid because you dont know. im not trying to insult you. but its not the game. even on normal this game kind of plays itself if youre doing your builds correctly. just saying.

[Phenerios]

Firky wrote...

Haha. This is exactly the one that had me drop from hard to casual for 8 (or possibly more) attempts.

1. Run away whenever blue circle appears.
2. Ignore the pride demon until everyone is dead.
3. Does Aveline have taunt? Put "defensive shield" (?) on and use taunt so most of the shades follow her. Focus the other 3 party members on taking out one shade at a time.
4. If someone is getting surrounded, or if Merrill is even approached, run away.
5. Use abilties that damage whenever you can. If you can stun, use that whenever you can too.

(These tips are for casual, obviously, in case they attract ire. I was shamelessly, shamelessly casual in this fight. A couple of tries, observe what the enemy is doing and run away when required. You'll get it.)

Seriously, have Merrill run away? MY first play through on hard Merrill was my back up tank, because she had more HP than anyone else. You spend all her points in magic and con, because she doesn't need willpower. Than you max out her main tree, go into primal and get rock armor and the passive ability that increase rock armor to 125% aromr, and she is nigh unkillable. The more people around her the more she heals as she is using that healing as fuel for more spells.

Modifié par Phenerios, 07 avril 2011 - 11:49 .

[paufiero]

DO THE LEVEL UP CHEAT ....LEVEL UP TO 50....AND KILL EVERYBODY!....

[Faust1979]

thanks to those that tried to help me! I got through the first game and other bioware games no problem! and played through the first Dragon Age multiple times but this fight is just to hard for me