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Why is everyone saying the Warden dissapeared?


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Merced652

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Whats not rocket science is understanding that the missing statement is ambiguous and was never explicitly said to be about whomever took part in awakening. You were saying bro?

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AlexXIV

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The epilogue/narrative happens 3 years after Act3 of DA2. Which means the Warden could be gone again by then. Also Bioware using 'the Warden' in the epilogue is quite ambigeous. It could refer to any Warden. Hero of Ferelden, Orlesian, Anders, Strout, someone we don't know yet ... etc.

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Conduit0

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Merced652 wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

I swear you're being intentionally dense just to troll, but I'll explain it for you, just in case.

The original response about it referring to the Orlaisian WC, was from you stating that she gives the same line even if you take the US route. Which is exactly why warden is used ambiguously, it was done so the cutscene could cover both possible options. If you're warden aka "The hero of fereldan" is still alive and kicking, she's referring to that warden. However, if the hero is pushing up daisies, than she's referring to the orlaisian WC. One cutscene, all bases covered, not that hard to understand.


Look jackass. I wasn't aware the game decided to pigeonhole my warden in to the WC because i chose not to play it. Under the assumption that it didn't do that, all bases certainly weren't covered because presumably there would've been the option to sit it out in which case who it was refering to wasn't indicated or even implied because events wouldn't have lent themselves to either or. Happily kiss my ass.

Even if there was an option to sit it out it would still be obvious who she was referring to. If the Hero is still alive they wouldn't care about the orlaisian WC. As for possibly being pidgeon holed, theres two possible explanations. The Grey Wardens are a military organization, which means you follow orders, and since I don't remember an "abandon the Grey Wardens" option, it can be assumed the Hero dutifully obeyed, even if he didn't like it. The other equally possible option is that the WH DLC which is well known for ****ing up plot flags, bugged imports to show awakening plot flags. But its far to late at night for me to bother with starting a new non-awakening non-WH import to check.

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Conduit0 wrote...

Merced652 wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

I swear you're being intentionally dense just to troll, but I'll explain it for you, just in case.

The original response about it referring to the Orlaisian WC, was from you stating that she gives the same line even if you take the US route. Which is exactly why warden is used ambiguously, it was done so the cutscene could cover both possible options. If you're warden aka "The hero of fereldan" is still alive and kicking, she's referring to that warden. However, if the hero is pushing up daisies, than she's referring to the orlaisian WC. One cutscene, all bases covered, not that hard to understand.


Look jackass. I wasn't aware the game decided to pigeonhole my warden in to the WC because i chose not to play it. Under the assumption that it didn't do that, all bases certainly weren't covered because presumably there would've been the option to sit it out in which case who it was refering to wasn't indicated or even implied because events wouldn't have lent themselves to either or. Happily kiss my ass.

The Grey Wardens are a military organization, which means you follow orders, and since I don't remember an "abandon the Grey Wardens" option, it can be assumed the Hero dutifully obeyed, even if he didn't like it. 


I'm sorry but didn't anders leave the order? Whether there is an option or not is irrelevant seeing how "his story is over." Seems to me like license. 

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The rp only matters while you are playing the game. Once that's done, Bioware comes in and fixes what you did to suit the story. That's just how it has to be. No sense in fighting it.

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In Awakenings, my Warden mentioned to Alistair and Anders that she would rather be at court or would return to court. I think it was something that was forced upon the Warden because of the military structure of the Grey Wardens. Just like the First Warden sent Mistress Woolsey to handle finacial affairs. If your Warden died, the First Warden sent an Orlesian Warden to Amaranthine instead.

Modifié par Noir_Skye, 08 avril 2011 - 01:42 .