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[Khambilo]

 There's already been a lot of discussion about who will be returning and who won't be for Mass Effect 3, but with the potential for every squad mate (with the exception of Liara) to die between ME1 and 2, there is going to have to be at least some no squad members for the final installment.  Also it's highly possible that some previous members will not be recruitable even if they lived.  Often mentioned are Thane and Mordin since they are nearing the end of their lives. And even if Mordin lives in ME 3, I could also see him taking more of a back seat support role, working the science mojo for fighting the reapers instead of being on the front lines.  Samara's oath only lasts until you completed the suicide mission.  If you choose Morinth, she also would likely leave you to pursue a life of killing for pleasure since she fulfilled her end of the bargain (essentially "kill my mother and I will help you with your mission").  Zaeed and Kasumi as DLC characters will likely be cameo roles since purchasing them is completely optional.  Point being, we're going to need some new characters to fill the vacancies if they are there and also provide some greater variation from the previous games.

So what new squad mates would you want to see?

Here is what I think would be cool.

1. Batarian squad member - we haven't had a batarian squad mate yet, and since a lot of our knowledge of alien culture comes from alien squad mates, it would be great to have a Batarian squad member, just because as far as the lore goes.  We seem to know the least about them in comparison to other species.  Also, a batarian squad member would be interesting to have in light of the events of Arrival (without spoiling anything if you haven't played it yet).

2. Female Krogan - Wrex was a great character in ME 1.  Grunt seemed to me sort of like a knock off.  Of course their not the same character, but it just felt like they watered down Wrex's character and got Grunt. For example, Wrex's blunt penchant for killing is all that Grunt's character is about (though I suppose justifiably so considering his purpose in being created by Okeer).  Anyway, the point is, if we are going to have a krogan, it should be something different from what we've had up until this point.  A Krogan female would be great for this as it would give us a different perspective on the whole Krogan genophage issue and other pertinent information.  Plus, I could picture her being a totally awesome  don't-mess-with-me-type warrior who could wreak havoc like her male counterparts could not.  You know what they say about hell having no fury like a woman's scorn.

3. The Big Ben sniper -  Every ME game has had a leading human male.  In ME 1, it was Kaidan and in ME 2, it was Jacob.  But with the potential for either or both of them to be dead, ME 3 is going to need that role filled.  This is not to say that Kaidan or Jacob won't come back if they are alive. The point is, the Big Ben sniper that we saw in the announcement trailer could fill this role quite nicely.

4. A Turian biotic - In ME 1 Kaidan mentions he was trained by  Turians at Jump Zero, yet we never see a Turian biotic.  We have a wealth of asari (the particle effects go well with their skin tone I guess) and human biotics.  We even have a volus biotic.  But why no Turians? When ever we fight a turian in the game, they always seem to be the thick skinned, heavy armor, heavy weapon using types.  I think it would add some interesting diversity to the game to have a turian biotic.

So what do you all think?

Modifié par Khambilo, 07 avril 2011 - 06:05 .

[Dave666]

For me? I'd rather just keep my squad and add in the VS thanks.

Btw, Mordin is only 30 and the life expectancy of Salarians is around 40 ish, so he ain't gonna drop dead anytime soon. Thane is more tricky, he says that his condition won't affect his abilities for 8-12 months (something like that), but he never says that after that time he will suddenly drop down dead, he'll just be unable to help fight.

Given that in order to even import your save you need a minimum of two Squaddies surviving and getting it that low is a hell of a lot of work, why do we need a ton of new Squaddies? If you only have a few survive the SM then replay it properly.

[Ice Cold J]

I agree with Dave.

But, if I HAD to add someone/something:

A Batarian, just because they are the most humanoid species NOT already having a squadmate represented.
The British sniper in the trailer.
Maybe a Volus engineer/hacker?
A Vorcha, although I have NO idea how he'd be handled.
Some kind of hybrid Rachni? (smaller than the ones in ME1, since it just doesn't make sense to have something that large randomly following you around)

[ShadyKat]

Khambilo wrote...

 There's already been a lot of discussion about who will be returning and who won't be for Mass Effect 3, but with the potential for every squad mate (with the exception of Liara) to die between ME1 and 2, there is going to have to be at least some no squad members for the final installment.  Also it's highly possible that some previous members will not be recruitable even if they lived.  Often mentioned are Thane and Mordin since they are nearing the end of their lives. And even if Mordin lives in ME 3, I could also see him taking more of a back seat support role, working the science mojo for fighting the reapers instead of being on the front lines.  Samara's oath only lasts until you completed the suicide mission.  If you choose Morinth, she also would likely leave you to pursue a life of killing for pleasure since she fulfilled her end of the bargain (essentially "kill my mother and I will help you with your mission").  Zaeed and Kasumi as DLC characters will likely be cameo roles since purchasing them is completely optional.  Point being, we're going to need some new characters to fill the vacancies if they are there and also provide some greater variation from the previous games.

So what new squad mates would you want to see?

Here is what I think would be cool.

1. Batarian squad member - we haven't had a batarian squad mate yet, and since a lot of our knowledge of alien culture comes from alien squad mates, it would be great to have a Batarian squad member, just because as far as the lore goes.  We seem to know the least about them in comparison to other species.  Also, a batarian squad member would be interesting to have in light of the events of Arrival (without spoiling anything if you haven't played it yet).

2. Female Krogan - Wrex was a great character in ME 1.  Grunt seemed to me sort of like a knock off.  Of course their not the same character, but it just felt like they watered down Wrex's character and got Grunt. For example, Wrex's blunt penchant for killing is all that Grunt's character is about (though I suppose justifiably so considering his purpose in being created by Okeer).  Anyway, the point is, if we are going to have a krogan, it should be something different from what we've had up until this point.  A Krogan female would be great for this as it would give us a different perspective on the whole Krogan genophage issue and other pertinent information.  Plus, I could picture her being a totally awesome  don't-mess-with-me-type warrior who could wreak havoc like her male counterparts could not.  You know what they say about hell having no fury like a woman's scorn.

3. The Big Ben sniper -  Every ME game has had a leading human male.  In ME 1, it was Kaidan and in ME 2, it was Jacob.  But with the potential for either or both of them to be dead, ME 3 is going to need that role filled.  This is not to say that Kaidan or Jacob won't come back if they are alive. The point is, the Big Ben sniper that we saw in the announcement trailer could fill this role quite nicely.

4. A Turian biotic - In ME 1 Kaidan mentions he was trained by  Turians at Jump Zero, yet we never see a Turian biotic.  We have a wealth of asari (the particle effects go well with their skin tone I guess) and human biotics.  We even have a volus biotic.  But why no Turians? When ever we fight a turian in the game, they always seem to be the thick skinned, heavy armor, heavy weapon using types.  I think it would add some interesting diversity to the game to have a turian biotic.

So what do you all think?

Pretty sure the Big Ben Snper will be in.
I agree, we need a Batarian squadmate in ME3, as well as a Biotic (hopefully Specter) female Turian. That's pretty much all I want for ME3.

[genghis rob]

A Yahg....that thing took a lot of shots to take it down.

[Seboist]

Ice Cold J wrote...

I agree with Dave.

But, if I HAD to add someone/something:

A Batarian, just because they are the most humanoid species NOT already having a squadmate represented.
The British sniper in the trailer.
Maybe a Volus engineer/hacker?
A Vorcha, although I have NO idea how he'd be handled.
Some kind of hybrid Rachni? (smaller than the ones in ME1, since it just doesn't make sense to have something that large randomly following you around)

Here's a scenario I've thought of for recruiting a Vorcha teammate:

A15-19 year old ex-Blood Pack mercenary who's body has been adapted to being as strong as a tank from all the battles he's been in is disillisioned about his life and the social standing of the Vorcha in the Terminus Systems and decides to go out in a blaze of glory by taking out the Krogan leader(s) of the Blood Pack(his former boss(es)) and/or free some Vorcha they've recently kidnapped(to be forcibly trained into BP mercs like he was). Naturally, Shepard "just happens" to be in the area,intervenes,strikes a deal with the guy to take out the Krogan(s) and free his people in exchange for recruitment.

He can also tell some Zaeed like stories of his past(with a Vorcha twist!) like how he's lost limbs(and later regrew them) in heavy combats he's been in.

So yeah, creating a scenario for a Vorcha to join Shep's team isn't that hard.

[Bamboozalist]

Nothing.

Bioware to stop making Mass Effect sequels and start making the next chapter in the Trilogy.

[Xarello111]

The Big Ben sniper.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Bamboozalist wrote...

Bioware should stop making Mass Effect sequels and start making the next chapter in the Trilogy.

This

[Khambilo]

Dave666 wrote...

For me? I'd rather just keep my squad and add in the VS thanks.

Honestly me too, but the prospect of getting new squaddies is exciting.  And though I think that a lot of our old squaddies will  return, I think some will not.  It's just bound to happen. 

Given that in order to even import your save you need a minimum of two Squaddies surviving and getting it that low is a hell of a lot of work, why do we need a ton of new Squaddies? If you only have a few survive the SM then replay it properly.

It is a lot of work, I'm playing a file right now where I do exactly that to see the repercussions on ME 3.  I don't think ME 3 will be lacking for squad mates, but if you lost most of your old team then you are going to have to have new members.  For instance, if you lost Tali and Legion you are going to NEED a new tech specialist.

I'm all for replaying the SM if you feel you are missing out when you lose a squadmate, but for me that cheapens the idea of the SM.  I lost Mordin on my first playthrough, and I will be dealing with that consequence in the third game.  I'm interested in seeing exactly what that consequence is.

[dleo95]

as long as miranda is there im happy

[vx SmOkEy xv]

I hope we get to choose if we want any new squad members. I'd get rid of Jack and swap her for that sniper from the trailer

[Black Raptor]

Personally, I just want to keep the ones we have mixed with either Kaiden or Ashley. OP has a good list of who won't be joining the team again and I hope that you don't really have to go around recruiting more people.
That was ME2's storyline. Build a good team. And honestly, that team was too big. Most of your team mates were ultimately useless compared to others (probably not helped by the fact that warp was the only useful biotic talent on anything above veteran difficulty. Miranda had that and overload making her the best squaddy)
Your team was too big and too many roles were repeated. Hopefully the ones who are leaving stay in cameo roles or support like Liara will.

Kaiden/Ashley, Garrus, Tali, Grunt, Miranda, Jacob (although he was crap in ME2), Legion (cos he is awesome) and someone to cover the biotic role if Jacob doesn't get the buff.
That's who I think will stay on as a squad member, assuming none of them die during the suicide mission, in which case their bro or sister will step up.

Modifié par Black Raptor, 07 avril 2011 - 07:57 .

[ZombifiedJake]

Garrus and Tali should be back (squadmates who've been with you over the trilogy, would fit in nicely), the VS, I don't know if Liara should be a squadmate, I'd like her to stick to a supporting role with plenty of appearances and give her position to a more interesting squadmate (same with Mordin and Jacob).

I'd like Grunt, Miranda and Thane back in as well. We're probably going to get a "surprise" squadmate like in ME2.

[Dave666]

Khambilo wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

For me? I'd rather just keep my squad and add in the VS thanks.

Honestly me too, but the prospect of getting new squaddies is exciting.  And though I think that a lot of our old squaddies will  return, I think some will not.  It's just bound to happen. 

Given that in order to even import your save you need a minimum of two Squaddies surviving and getting it that low is a hell of a lot of work, why do we need a ton of new Squaddies? If you only have a few survive the SM then replay it properly.

It is a lot of work, I'm playing a file right now where I do exactly that to see the repercussions on ME 3.  I don't think ME 3 will be lacking for squad mates, but if you lost most of your old team then you are going to have to have new members.  For instance, if you lost Tali and Legion you are going to NEED a new tech specialist.

I'm all for replaying the SM if you feel you are missing out when you lose a squadmate, but for me that cheapens the idea of the SM.  I lost Mordin on my first playthrough, and I will be dealing with that consequence in the third game.  I'm interested in seeing exactly what that consequence is.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to dismiss your idea and I agree that we should probably get four new Squaddies. The VS (because they just have to, we've waited an entire game for them), along with a Biotic, a Techie and a Combat class.  That covers all bases.  You should be able to complete the game with those and your surviving members even if you only had two survive.  However if that is your entire Squad then by rights it should be harder.

[appleyum]

Biotic God Volus....who needs Asari or Human implant

[AdmiralCheez]

MOST DEFINITELY NEED: Batarian, FemTurian.

DO WANT: Sniper Guy.

[CroGamer002]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

MOST DEFINITELY NEED: Batarian, FemTurian.

DO WANT: Sniper Guy.

+1

[Gentleman Moogle]

Kal'Reegar.

/thread

[The BS Police]

I'd want them to die.. Painfully!

My crew survived the suicide mission, so they better be there on the Normandy.

Modifié par The BS Police, 07 avril 2011 - 09:27 .

[Khambilo]

Yeah, they wouldn't make it impossible, and I'm sure it would be harder if you lost everybody.

Just thinking though, it is possible to end the game with one squad member. If Zaeed is not loyal before you do the suicide mission and he survives the mission, with a high enough paragon score you can kill him on his loyalty mission, making you and whoever else survived the loyalty mission the only ones to survive.

I think I'm going to try to do this just to see what will happen.

In the mean time, I thought up another squaddie idea.

A Quarian exile - I'm thinking a male quarian whose view on the Geth coincides with Daro'Xen's. I picture him as a former Quarian Marine who became disillusioned with the fight and flee tactics that the Quarians use in respect to the Geth and is seeking a way to end the conflict by putting the Geth back under Quarian control. Shepard can run into said Quarian while on a mission in Geth territory or something. Once on board, we find out that this Quarian took the fall for Daro'Xen in a trial, similar to what Tali did if she was exiled on behalf of her father. We then use his character as a way back into the whole recruiting people to take back earth issue leaving you with the option to negotiate with the Geth (via Legion if he's alive or if you didn't hand him over to Cerberus) to join you in the crusade against the Reapers, or use Daro'Xen and Quarian Squaddie's method to take back control of the Geth and use them in the fight against the Reapers.

Purely speculative of course, but I think it would make for an interesting story.

[Khambilo]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Kal'Reegar.

/thread

You know, or this.

[Someone With Mass]

Tali, Garrus, Grunt, Kasumi and Legion. And some female turian. Preferably a biotic one.

Kal'Reegar is too much of a wimp to join my crew.

[Marxman2]

My ME2 survivors (All but Mirianda, Thane and Mordin) + Kal'reegar, Ash, Liara and Big Ben.

There are some other ME2 Squadies who im not bothered if they return or not:
Samara/Morinth
Jack

[naledgeborn]

Big Ben Sniper? To think, people would forget about the hype attached to the Cigarette Smoking Batarian Pre-ME2 release.