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[Dave666]

Personally I can't stand her (especially on Garrus's recruitment, 'he's not gonna make it', Shut Up Miranda! I'd quite like to hear what Mordin has to say on this thanks, you know, what with him being a doctor and all) but my favourite class is the Adept and she almost always gets a slot on my team. Overload and Warp are just too useful to pass up.

[Asch Lavigne]

I always take characters I like best over who I actually need for certain missions. I played through all my games with Jack swapping Morinth, Garrus and Kasumi in and out. I never used Miranda, I couldn't get past how much I hated her. It wasn't the cheerleader thing, it was the "I'm second in command and you all have to do what I say." attitude. Like at the end when Jacob volunteers to through the vents Miranda says "I appreciate the thought Jacob but blah blah blah...." Who left the decision up to her? She just bugged the hell out of me. Luckily I killed her in mu carry over playthrough but of course the only way to kill Miranda successfully is to take her unloyal butt in your party at the end of the game. I just like to believe that I told Garrus to kill her if she gave him any mouth when I named him as leader or that Jack finally killed her.

I just hope that they don't mention that Shep is torn up over any lost squadmates in ME3 because my Shep wouldn't be.

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 09 avril 2011 - 05:00 .

[lazuli]

Korjyan wrote...

lazuli wrote...

We're all forgetting her most important attribute: the sassy one-liners.

They are actually a reason to NOT take her with you on a mission. She's so annoying and ****ing about everything.

Embrace the sass.  I usually play a Paragon so it's nice to have someone in the party that will be rude to people, especially when I'm too busy being a doormat.  She tells it like it is to Okeer, that's for sure.

But to get back on topic for this forum, Miranda is highly effective in combat.  With a Sentinel Shepard leading the charge, Miranda can even detonate her own Warp bombs (Miranda's Slam + Shepard's Tech Armor + Miranda's Warp).

[tonnactus]

She is just overrated.Everything she could do could be done better by other squadmates. Overload-Garrus is better because of the increased power damage.Zaeed with squad disruptor is at least equal.
Armor-Mordin.
Only against collectors she has some use before someome pick up thane or have samara with area reave.

Modifié par tonnactus, 09 avril 2011 - 06:17 .

[Bozorgmehr]

tonnactus wrote...

She is just overrated.Everything she could do could be done better by other squadmates. Overload-Garrus is better because of the increased power damage.Zaeed with squad disruptor is at least equal.
Armor-Mordin.
Only against collectors she has some use before someome pick up thane or have samara with area reave.

There is no other squadmate that can instantly remove all defenses (barrier, shield, armor), Garrus' extra damage is redundant when Area Overload instantly strips shields (easily accomplished when you're not playing NG+). Zaeed is nowhere near Miranda - he cannot strip any defense, and Mordin's only advantage against armor is his AoE power (warp is single target only - though warpbombs are vastly superior to Incinerate).

Miranda is also available at the start, she gets an additional skillpoint, and no prerequisite to unlock powers - you may not like her character, but she's one hell of a squadmate.

[termokanden]

Yep. She's versatile, that's why I like her. She doesn't JUST have Overload.

And of course with her bonus power she can one-shot husks too if you want.

Then there are the group buffs. Probably not insanely good, but no other squadmate has this.

Modifié par termokanden, 09 avril 2011 - 06:55 .

[Waltzingbear]

You forgot to mention that she's also every Adept's best bud. There's no other squadmate that has the ability to strip down any defense type and be used to set up warpbombs.

[Sparrow44]

Miranda gives you more options in fights between Overload and Warp and her passive overall is better than anyone else. Key word: Versatility.

[Druss99]

She is the best all rounder in your squad, she can't strip armour/shields/barrier as well as some others but she can remove them all.

I find she works excellently in combination with Grunt.

[tonnactus]

Bozorgmehr wrote...


There is no other squadmate that can instantly remove all defenses

In a game with global cooldown there isnt a squadmate that could "instantly" remove all defenses anyway.Versatily has no worth,specialists are more valuable.
Zaeeds grenade if evolved to the heavy version is far better then warp against armor and has still an area of effect.Warp bombs only do double damage to the one target affected by it and you need: Strip the defense of the target.Then use the biotic and warp. Two steps instead of one.

Modifié par tonnactus, 09 avril 2011 - 07:55 .

[Bozorgmehr]

tonnactus wrote...

In a game with global cooldown there isnt a squadmate that could "instantly" remove all defenses anyway.Versatily has no worth,specialists are more valuable.

And Miranda isn't a specialist?

Mordin and Grunt's RM - BS (shields) and Bloodpack (armor), Garrus' RM - shields and armor, all Eclipse mission - shields, armor and barrier etc. Most missions have more than one type of defenses, Miranda can handle them all and she can assist with Warpbombing (strip defense, setup, detonate). Pretty useful IMHO.

[Kronner]

tonnactus wrote...

In a game with global cooldown there isnt a squadmate that could "instantly" remove all defenses anyway

Are you high? Her Overload AND Warp DO remove protections..INSTANTLY.

[AreleX]

Kronner wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

In a game with global cooldown there isnt a squadmate that could "instantly" remove all defenses anyway

Are you high? Her Overload AND Warp DO remove protections..INSTANTLY.

Kronner for Poster of the Century

[tonnactus]

Kronner wrote...

tonnactus wrote...

In a game with global cooldown there isnt a squadmate that could "instantly" remove all defenses anyway

Are you high? Her Overload AND Warp DO remove protections..INSTANTLY.

I meant it in a way if an enemy has two sort of protections.Like a blue sun commander.So after a overload she couldnt instantly follow with a warp(and the commander still has some shields left anyway).

Modifié par tonnactus, 09 avril 2011 - 08:54 .

[tonnactus]

Bozorgmehr wrote...


And Miranda isn't a specialist?

No,a sentinel is a jack of all trades. She doesnt have any passives that increases power damage or decrease cooldowns.

 Most missions have more than one type of defenses,

Most have exactly two. Covered by two squadmates who did the job better.

[Kronner]

tonnactus wrote...

I meant it in a way if an enemy has two sort of protections.Like a blue sun commander.So after a overload she couldnt instantly follow with a warp(and the commander still has some shields left anyway).

No power can strip defense of an elite enemy. Obviously it was all about regular enemies, as they are by far the most common type of enemy. No other squadmate in the game can remove any protection of any regular enemy..insantly.

[MGIII]

Her passive squad buff > anything any other character offers. Combine that with her ability to strip all buffs, and CC, and she's far and away the best squadmate in the game.

[tonnactus]

Kronner wrote...
 Obviously it was all about regular enemies, as they are by far the most common type of enemy. No other squadmate in the game can remove any protection of any regular enemy..insantly.

Regular enemies only have one type of protections,so in this case i rather take specialists.
And kasumi could remove any kind of protections too.(and shadowstrike is better against barriers and armor then warp by miles)

Modifié par tonnactus, 09 avril 2011 - 09:23 .

[Kronner]

Kasumi can only remove shields insantly.
Shadow Strike takes way too long before it actually does anything, so she is pretty much useless against armor and barriers. In any case, Miranda is the most versatile squadmate, that is simply a fact.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Kronner wrote...

Kasumi can only remove shields insantly.
Shadow Strike takes way too long before it actually does anything, so she is pretty much useless against armor and barriers. In any case, Miranda is the most versatile squadmate, that is simply a fact.

Kasumi is usefull too, but mostly against targets with shields&synthetics.
I agree with you on Miranda. She's good against everything, extremely lethal to collectors&husks. All missions in entire game suit her powers as long as a player knows how to use powers wisely. She's just like a power tank.
offtopic- I'm suprised people aren't posting messages about her looks in this thread. It used to be a plague some time ago

Modifié par PnXMarcin1PL, 09 avril 2011 - 09:41 .

[Kronner]

PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

She's good against everything except shields, extremely lethal to collectors&husks. Most of the missions in entire game suit her powers as long as a player knows how to use powers wisely.

She has Overload, why wouldn't she be good against shields? That makes no sense.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

^Oh damn, I've totally forgotten about overload, sorry  editing previous post.... *mordins sniff*
edited

Modifié par PnXMarcin1PL, 09 avril 2011 - 09:47 .

[tonnactus]

Kronner wrote...

Kasumi can only remove shields insantly.
Shadow Strike takes way too long before it actually does anything,

??
Its not instant but not long,but the damage is impressive even against enemies like ymirs.
Lesser enemies loose also a good chunk of health.
And with rapid shadow strike the cooldown is very short.

In any case, Miranda is the most versatile squadmate, that is simply a fact.

Its not a fact when there is another squadmember that has a talent effective against all type of protections.

Modifié par tonnactus, 09 avril 2011 - 09:49 .

[Kronner]

tonnactus wrote...
??
Its not instant but not long,but the damage is impressive even against enemies like ymirs.
Lesser enemies loose also a good chunk of health.
And with rapid shadow strike the cooldown is very short.

I don't care about cooldown, what I mean is that it takes time for her to actually do the damage to the defense, whereas Miranda's attack is instant..right when you need it.

Its not a fact when there is another squadmember that has a talent effective against all type of protections.

Yeah, but it is not nearly as effective or quick. Besides, this is not about comparing X to Y, but about why Miranda is a good squadmate.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

tonnactus wrote...

Its not a fact when there is another squadmember that has a talent effective against all type of protections.

Liara and stasis