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[Bad King]

The BS Police wrote...

Would anyone really trust this guy?

http://i53.tinypic.com/rgvtc3.jpg

TIM's face when he was told that he would have a big role in Mass Effect 3.

[Phaedon]

I mean, he is voiced by Martin Sheen.


Obvious major antagonist.

[Dave of Canada]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Yeah, when Shepard is involved.

I don't see Shepard doing anything about the projects, he only cleans the projects that get out of hand and the results from the projects are already achieved (for example, Overlord's goal was accomplished). They don't call Shepard and say "Hey, Shepard. Come over here and celebrate our victory, we've got cheese!".

[Someone With Mass]

Mesina2 wrote...

Or how TIM resurrected Shepard and gave him most advanced ship in the galaxy with most advance weapons so he/she can give him middle finger after blowing up Collector Base.

Again, the turians invented the Thanix. And they helped create the first Normandy. Not Cerberus.

At least the Alliance isn't assassinating turian Hierarchy leaders.

[Dave of Canada]

mrsph wrote...

Not to mention if you fail the Suicide Mission TIM doesn't really give a crap. All he cares about is having the Normandy returned to him.

He'd care if Shepard didn't blow up the Collectors and stop the threat to humanity. Shepard is an asset, not a close friend.

[Dave of Canada]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Again, the turians invented the Thanix. And they helped create the first Normandy. Not Cerberus.

And Cerberus played part in the construction of the Normandy SR1.

[Phaedon]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Or how TIM resurrected Shepard and gave him most advanced ship in the galaxy with most advance weapons so he/she can give him middle finger after blowing up Collector Base.

Again, the turians invented the Thanix. And they helped create the first Normandy. Not Cerberus.

At least the Alliance isn't assassinating turian Hierarchy leaders.

Mesina's actually trying to point out to another great exhibit of Cerberus incompetence.

[Giggles_Manically]

Knew it.

I saw enough red flags waved in my face to not go down that road.

[CroGamer002]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Or how TIM resurrected Shepard and gave him most advanced ship in the galaxy with most advance weapons so he/she can give him middle finger after blowing up Collector Base.

Again, the turians invented the Thanix. And they helped create the first Normandy. Not Cerberus.

At least the Alliance isn't assassinating turian Hierarchy leaders.

I was talking about guns me and my squadmates use.

Somebody needs to replicate them and I don't remember paying for any of them.

[CroGamer002]

Phaedon wrote...

Mesina's actually trying to point out to another great exhibit of Cerberus incompetence.

That too.

[Someone With Mass]

Dave of Canada wrote...
I don't see Shepard doing anything about the projects, he only cleans the projects that get out of hand and the results from the projects are already achieved (for example, Overlord's goal was accomplished). They don't call Shepard and say "Hey, Shepard. Come over here and celebrate our victory, we've got cheese!".

Yeah, what was Overlord's goal again? Oh, yeah, it had none. TIM was about to shut it down until Archer had this brilliant idea to put his autistic brother in a machine in a attempt to control the geth, creating a rogue VI that threatened to upload itself to the extranet just because David somehow managed to mimic their so called "language" with math, which makes no sense, considering that the geth are communicating at the speed of light. And then Shepard had to destroy parts of their facility.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 08 avril 2011 - 09:54 .

[Phaedon]

Fun fact about Project Overlord.

Any doctor should know that not sleeping for days can make you go obsessive and psychotic. Dangerous, with aggressive reactions. Hell, most people know that without a degree.

Guess who didn't finish Med School.

Modifié par Phaedon, 08 avril 2011 - 09:57 .

[Dave of Canada]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Yeah, what was Overlord's goal again? Oh, yeah, it had none.

To defend humanity against the Geth and making them valuable shock troopers.

Regardless of the death's of those involved, the above was still accomplished.

And then Shepard had to destroy parts of their facility.

That's his job, he's clean up. I had to clean up the Council and Alliance's messes in ME1 and I expect to clean up the messes of [faction] in ME3. They'll never invite Shepard to celebrate a job well done.

[Phaedon]

Dave of Canada wrote...
To defend humanity against the Geth and making them valuable shock troopers.

Regardless of the death's of those involved, the above was still accomplished.

Considering that the war with the geth was essentially over,


It looks like Cerberus wouldn't just control the geth to ask them politely to leave.

Modifié par Phaedon, 08 avril 2011 - 09:59 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Did you play Overlord with your eyes closed and the sound off? The point of Overlord from the very start was to control the geth. However they met with no success until Archer decided to recklessly hook David up days before the project was to be shut down.

Or are you blaming Cerberus for trying in the first place?

Considering that not even the geth's creators can find a safe way to control them, then yes. I am blaming Cerberus for being such power-playing idiots.

At least I can help people when the Alliance is asking for help. When Cerberus gives me work, everyone's already dead.

Face it, they suck.

[Dave of Canada]

Phaedon wrote...

Considering that the war with the geth was essentially over,

Regardless, they are a threat to humanity that Cerberus decided was valuable enough to invest in a project to deal with. Just because a war is finishing doesn't mean the threat of the opposition is negligible.

It looks like Cerberus wouldn't just control the geth to ask them politely to leave.

That's why I said they wanted to make the Geth into Shock Troopers too.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 08 avril 2011 - 10:03 .

[Dave of Canada]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Considering that not even the geth's creators can find a safe way to control them, then yes. I am blaming Cerberus for being such power-playing idiots.

Though the project was a success, so... they are successful and reckless power-playing "idiots"? If I leave David in the experiment, I'm pretty sure they'll be able to control the Geth.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 08 avril 2011 - 10:05 .

[Someone With Mass]

Dave of Canada wrote...
Though the project was a success, so... they are successful and reckless power-playing "idiots"?

Yeah, it's a success. Until the geth adapts and creates countermeasures for it. Which they most likely will, because it's what they do. Then it's pointless.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 08 avril 2011 - 10:09 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Almostfaceman wrote...

Seboist wrote...


The mission in the derelict Reaper got the IFF in the hands of Shep, so that was a SUCCESS too.

Tell that to the poor schmucks sitting on pikes - I'm sure they were wondering as their brains were scrambled why the hell TiM didn't set up a program that could prevent such a thing from happening.

Is your argument going to be that, if there are deaths in the precess, a project is an ultimate failure regardless?

We can provide a multitude of reasons why TIM did not, could not, or would not. None of them change whether the goals were met, only the costs with which they were achieved.

[Almostfaceman]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Considering that not even the geth's creators can find a safe way to control them, then yes. I am blaming Cerberus for being such power-playing idiots.

Though the project was a success, so... they are successful and reckless power-playing "idiots"? If I leave David in the experiment, I'm pretty sure they'll be able to control the Geth.

Um, no, Overlord was not a success.  The goal was to control/communicate with the Geth - that didn't happen.  What happened is an uncontrollable human/VI hybrid was made - about as useful as ****** on a bull.

[Phaedon]

Dave of Canada wrote...
Regardless, they are a threat to humanity that Cerberus decided was valuable enough to invest in a project to deal with. Just because a war is finishing doesn't mean the threat of the opposition is negligible.

They wouldn't waste money and personnel on such a project.

That's why I said they wanted to make the Geth into Shock Troopers too.

So, you are basically saying that they tried to use the Heretics as weapons?

This just shows that Cerberus is ruthless and dangerous.

Modifié par Phaedon, 08 avril 2011 - 10:09 .

[Someone With Mass]

Okay, Cerberus is good at one thing. Killing people. I have to admit that they're very good at that.

[Dave of Canada]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Yeah, it's a success. Until the geth adapts and creates countermeasures for it. Which they most likely will, because it's what they do. Then it's pointless.

They weren't in a rush to do that in Overlord, it seems. Considering Geth are supposed to be able to create countermeasures in seconds, though they were firmly under David's control for the entire events of Overlord (and even a bit before then).

Almostfaceman wrote...

Um, no, Overlord was not a success.  The goal was to control/communicate with the Geth - that didn't happen. 

So what was David doing with the green-eyed Geth? Paying them to shoot Shepard?

Phaedon wrote...

So, you are basically saying that they tried to use the Heretics as weapons?

They've been working on building supersoldiers to save human lives since ME1. That was their purpose in experimenting with Toombs and the Thresher Maws and with the Rachni, though both were abandoned when they realized it wouldn't work.

They moved to the Geth and successfully controlled them.