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#151
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Liara confirmed as a squadmate, deal with it. You'll get your answears when ME3 is here

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double post

Modifié par Csec_2, 09 avril 2011 - 10:08 .


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Wow, calm down folks.

They merely confirmed wich characters will be back for ME3. No one said anything about thier actual roles in the game. Who knows how it will all play out? For now all we can do is speculate.
There is no reason to jump to conclusions and be concerned about something that may or may not happen.

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Having Liara in the party makes sense. They did promise to bring back old love intrests. Also Feron can easily take over for her as being the shadow broker, while she goes with Sheapard. I have a feeling Feron becomes our new quest giver, makes sense to have the shadow broker at your back in midst of a reaper invasion telling Shepard what's happening and where.

Modifié par armass, 09 avril 2011 - 11:08 .


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Liara is probably there because she is there to support Shepard.

Why does she have to constantly stay at the Shadow Broker station?

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JJ Long wrote...

Liara is probably there because she is there to support Shepard.

Why does she have to constantly stay at the Shadow Broker station?


Hmh, cause she is most powerful information broker in galaxy and information is power and with it Liara can be way, WAY more useful to Shepard.

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armass wrote...

Having Liara in the party makes sense. They did promise to bring back old love intrests. Also Feron can easily take over for her as being the shadow broker, while she goes with Sheapard. I have a feeling Feron becomes our new quest giver, makes sense to have the shadow broker at your back in midst of a reaper invasion telling Shepard what's happening and where.


Feron is not expirianced in that kind of job.

You're not gonna put noob for one of the most important job in galaxy in the most desperate times if you already have somebody very experienced and skilled.

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Mesina2 wrote...

JJ Long wrote...

Liara is probably there because she is there to support Shepard.

Why does she have to constantly stay at the Shadow Broker station?


Hmh, cause she is most powerful information broker in galaxy and information is power and with it Liara can be way, WAY more useful to Shepard.

You think human trial would take some information or evidence from Shadow Broker? Mysterious broker who very likely is not human? She must be there if she has something important to say or show to defend Shepard.

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Mesina2 wrote...

JJ Long wrote...

Liara is probably there because she is there to support Shepard.

Why does she have to constantly stay at the Shadow Broker station?


Hmh, cause she is most powerful information broker in galaxy and information is power and with it Liara can be way, WAY more useful to Shepard.


Like i said Feron can take her over, what exactly prevents this?

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No reason arguing. It seems like people on this forum are just LOOKING for things to be wrong.

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Mesina2 wrote...

armass wrote...

Having Liara in the party makes sense. They did promise to bring back old love intrests. Also Feron can easily take over for her as being the shadow broker, while she goes with Sheapard. I have a feeling Feron becomes our new quest giver, makes sense to have the shadow broker at your back in midst of a reaper invasion telling Shepard what's happening and where.


Feron is not expirianced in that kind of job.

You're not gonna put noob for one of the most important job in galaxy in the most desperate times if you already have somebody very experienced and skilled.


Feron is her assistant over there, with perfect memory. He learns all that Liara learns about being a shadow broker and he can remember it better. And he was a shadow broker agent like the yahg before, that became the shadow broker. Why exactly cant he take over?

Modifié par armass, 09 avril 2011 - 11:37 .


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Is that logical or not, but I like it. I prefer to see her as a squadmate instead of Shepard's boss.

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Nozybidaj wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...
 So, I don't want to have a squaddie I will never use.


I had 10 of 'em in ME2 I didn't want to use.  You'll get over it.

Or maybe not, as obviously I haven't. :pinched:  Well, good luck with that anyway........


You got the chance to kill off everyone you don't like, but VS+Liara had plot armour to keep them safe. And you can't imagine how much I wanted to throw Liara out of taxi on full speed...

And also, why come here and tell us to calm down/get over the fact etc because it all is unconfirmed, but no one asks to calm down Liara and VS fans who are gloating about the fact they got their fav charas back. If being happy about unconfrmed thing is totally fine, then why can't we be concerned about the same unconfirmed stuff? Happy about Liara/VS? Fine, take your cake and go celebrate in the appropriate thread, just leave alone people who are not that happy.

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Babli wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

JJ Long wrote...

Liara is probably there because she is there to support Shepard.

Why does she have to constantly stay at the Shadow Broker station?


Hmh, cause she is most powerful information broker in galaxy and information is power and with it Liara can be way, WAY more useful to Shepard.

You think human trial would take some information or evidence from Shadow Broker? Mysterious broker who very likely is not human? She must be there if she has something important to say or show to defend Shepard.


Yeah, this is how I see it happening - Liara is presenting evidence when the Reapers come down. She's stuck with you.

Anyway, no need to get so worked up, Mesina. All we know is that Legion is in-game, which is good. We don't know for sure that he won't be a squadmate, just that he hasn't been confirmed as one yet.

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Babli wrote...

You think human trial would take some information or evidence from Shadow Broker? Mysterious broker who very likely is not human? She must be there if she has something important to say or show to defend Shepard.


She doesn't have to be there as Broker. She can hire the best human lawyers ever and give them enough evidence to protect Shepard, she can bribe the media and start campaign in Shepard's support, she can launch a smear campaign against  prosecutors, etc. I think it would work much better that her appearing at the court herself.

Modifié par Babe Mause, 09 avril 2011 - 01:12 .


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U might find a the new Normandy (if there is one) has the sb base of operations built in

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Point is, there are several perfectly good reasons and explanations why Liara is on Earth at the beginning of ME3. (Testifying, offering evidence, moral support of her friend).

And Feron is not a "noob." He used to be a Shadow Broker agent before he helped out Liara before ME2. It is perfectly reasonable to leave him in charge.

Anyone denying these facts are just trying to crowbar in a complaint any way they can simply because they personally don't think it should be like that.

Just say "In my opinion, I don't think Liara should be at Shepard's trial"

Don't try to say it is already a plot or logic hole when it isn't.

Modifié par JJ Long, 09 avril 2011 - 01:25 .


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I think she'll multitask. Have a secure SB suite on the Normandy while going on missions with Shepard. EDI can play SB while she's out with Shep.

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Babe Mause wrote...

Babli wrote...

You think human trial would take some information or evidence from Shadow Broker? Mysterious broker who very likely is not human? She must be there if she has something important to say or show to defend Shepard.


She doesn't have to be there as Broker. She can hire the best human lawyers ever

Best human lawyers werent with Shepard during events of ME 1. She may testify about something. We really dont know much about trial.

And Feron can be SB for a while, he is not stupid, he worked for SB before and has perfect memory...so in fact, he should be even better SB than Liara.

Modifié par Babli, 09 avril 2011 - 02:47 .


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Babli wrote...

Best human lawyers werent with Shepard during events of ME 1. She may testify about something. We really dont know much about trial.

And Feron can be SB for a while, he is not stupid, he worked for SB before and has perfect memory...so in fact, he should be even better SB than Liara.


Yeah, we don't know much about the trial aside the fact that Alliance wants to make a scapegoat out of Shepard. And in this case the daughter of Saren's ally being at Shepard's side will do more harm than good.

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Re: OP

Feron and the drone take over as Shadow Broker for a while. Liara, Garrus and Ashley/Kaiden break Shep out of jail. Edi and Joker fly the Normandy after the Normandy Cerberus crew leaves.

And at the end of the game, MIranda and/or Jacob kill TIM.

There's no problem here.

#172
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Liara will have some kind of "portable" Shadow Broker device on her cab on the Normandy, I am sure of it, but I wish she would still be THE SB and maybe fund Shepard with information, resources or even SB troopers!

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Nothing is good enough for you people. Here's the only only thing i can say. ITS NOT YOUR GAME!! you didn't make it Bioware is kind enough to let us delve into their universe where we can customize. In the end its their choice what ends up in the game. Please stop arguing over something we know diddley squat about. Who knows how long she's a squad mate what happens in the story and why. All we have is 1 line of text that tells us. 1 LINE people this is what you argue about. Dear god can Bioware get a break once and a while i mean they did make the 2 best games EVA!!!! Peace....
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Modifié par camcon2100, 10 avril 2011 - 01:40 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

armass wrote...

Having Liara in the party makes sense. They did promise to bring back old love intrests. Also Feron can easily take over for her as being the shadow broker, while she goes with Sheapard. I have a feeling Feron becomes our new quest giver, makes sense to have the shadow broker at your back in midst of a reaper invasion telling Shepard what's happening and where.


Feron is not expirianced in that kind of job.

You're not gonna put noob for one of the most important job in galaxy in the most desperate times if you already have somebody very experienced and skilled.


You don't know if Fercon can handle being the SB or not.

Liara can still be the SB, she would just have to set up a little mini base on the Normandy. It makes perfect sense.

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Babe Mause wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

Babe Mause wrote...
 So, I don't want to have a squaddie I will never use.


I had 10 of 'em in ME2 I didn't want to use.  You'll get over it.

Or maybe not, as obviously I haven't. :pinched:  Well, good luck with that anyway........


You got the chance to kill off everyone you don't like, but VS+Liara had plot armour to keep them safe. And you can't imagine how much I wanted to throw Liara out of taxi on full speed...

And also, why come here and tell us to calm down/get over the fact etc because it all is unconfirmed, but no one asks to calm down Liara and VS fans who are gloating about the fact they got their fav charas back. If being happy about unconfrmed thing is totally fine, then why can't we be concerned about the same unconfirmed stuff? Happy about Liara/VS? Fine, take your cake and go celebrate in the appropriate thread, just leave alone people who are not that happy.


Irony escapes you often doesn't it? :blush:

1)  I'm not happy or gloating.  About the only way I'd be happy about anything ME related again is if they went back and remade ME2 as an actual sequel to ME1 instead of a reboot
2)  Folks lost their rights to be concerned about unconfirmed stuff when they told folks like me to "get over it" prior to ME2 when we complained about the directions taken with Liara and the VS and the fact we were getting a whole new squad

Just basking in a bit of self-righteous indignation at the moment.  Don't take it too personally. :P

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Feron is not expirianced in that kind of job.

You're
not gonna put noob for one of the most important job in galaxy in the
most desperate times if you already have somebody very experienced and
skilled.


And Liara is experienced at being the SB how exactly?  She's a Prothean scientist not an underworld espionage specialist.  In fact I'd say she has far less of the experience required to actually perform the duties of the Shadow Broker than someone like Feron would.

Modifié par Nozybidaj, 10 avril 2011 - 02:07 .