Patch 1.02 Progress
#51
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 10:48
#52
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 10:50
RaenImrahl wrote...
Luke Barrett wrote...
The aforementioned beta test-group was a small pocket of community members that Ipulled out of the matrixtalked to about helping us out by pre-screening the patch. They were picked mostly due to community involvement and overall helpfulness/cooperation with other forum members.
Cool. And good thing you didn't captialize the "m" in "matrix"... you'd owe Warner Bros. some money....
Clearly I was refering to an excel matrix that I made and not making an allusion to a trademarked product
#53
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:02
Luke Barrett wrote...
RaenImrahl wrote...
Luke Barrett wrote...
The aforementioned beta test-group was a small pocket of community members that Ipulled out of the matrix
talked to about helping us out by pre-screening the patch. They were
picked mostly due to community involvement and overall
helpfulness/cooperation with other forum members.
Cool. And good thing you didn't captialize the "m" in "matrix"... you'd owe Warner Bros. some money....
Clearly I was refering to an excel matrix that I made and not making an allusion to a trademarked product [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]
Good thing you didn't capitalize the "e" in "excel", too.
#54
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:02
#55
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:07
#56
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:08
Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
Will the Finding Nathaniel quest be available to the correct imports?
^ This.
Also Thanks for the update. It looks like all the bugs I've encountered will be gone in on fell swoop
...In this case, Swooping isn't bad.
#57
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:09
Looking forward to my 2nd playthrough when 1.02 is released, thanks BW!
#58
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:17
#59
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:27
#60
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:39
#61
Posté 08 avril 2011 - 11:42
Now I'm just hoping the Hawke losing health permanently on death thing is fixed and I'll be all set.
#62
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 12:33
#63
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 12:37
I purchased the game release day, March 7th. My save file became unplayable almost a month ago, now, with a third of the game yet to be completed. I don't feel that great having only received 2/3 of a game, y'know? Felt like I received a meal that needed a few more hours in the oven, and I can't order another one or get my money back.
I'm hesitant to purchase anything Dragon Age related at launch now, not as a personal vendetta against Bioware/EA, but as a customer (who isn't always right) looking back at past experiences with the company. This isn't the first time I've gotten my hand burned with something related to DA, even though ME is fine all-around. If there's anything you're allowed to say - that something in the system will be fixed to cach more bugs, that more development time will be given, something to indicate that there is a heightened chance of this not happening at such a severity (I'm fine with it happening if it truly was not preventable or not a gamebreaking or near gamebreaking issue) again, I'd appreciate it greatly.
Because as it stands, it is past April 7th, and with the number of very major issues both with bugs and trimming quality for speedier release, I am hesitant to refer to the game as "finished", a month after it's been released. But I love the DA world and Bioware had been my favorite developer until now. : (
#64
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 12:44
It's also this way with the woman who's working with Terrie, if you help some mages escape at one point. I got one quest and never any more.
FYI.
#65
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 12:49
Vint1 wrote...
I'm sorry if I sound impatient. I don't mean to be inflammatory. But this is an example of poor quality from Bioware that I'm not used to.
I purchased the game release day, March 7th. My save file became unplayable almost a month ago, now, with a third of the game yet to be completed. I don't feel that great having only received 2/3 of a game, y'know? Felt like I received a meal that needed a few more hours in the oven, and I can't order another one or get my money back.
I'm hesitant to purchase anything Dragon Age related at launch now, not as a personal vendetta against Bioware/EA, but as a customer (who isn't always right) looking back at past experiences with the company. This isn't the first time I've gotten my hand burned with something related to DA, even though ME is fine all-around. If there's anything you're allowed to say - that something in the system will be fixed to cach more bugs, that more development time will be given, something to indicate that there is a heightened chance of this not happening at such a severity (I'm fine with it happening if it truly was not preventable or not a gamebreaking or near gamebreaking issue) again, I'd appreciate it greatly.
Because as it stands, it is past April 7th, and with the number of very major issues both with bugs and trimming quality for speedier release, I am hesitant to refer to the game as "finished", a month after it's been released. But I love the DA world and Bioware had been my favorite developer until now. : (
This happened with Dragon Age Origins and especially with Awakening. when they were first released. And Origins was being worked on for a long long time. Development time has nothing to do with it. If you don't want to live with launch bugs don't buy your games at launch wait until patches come out.
Unfortunately when games come out there tends to be a few unpleasent suprises when lots of people with various platforms and various hardware play the game you might find some problems you were not expecting. And a patch takes time. They cannot simply wave a magic wand or just program a patch and put it out. Things have to be done the right way with proper research and testing or you end up making the game worse not better. I'd be happier that they are properly testing it and getting it certified to ensure the quality of the patch than just throwing it out and hoping for the best.
#66
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 12:53
#67
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 01:01
As gamers we should be holding developers and publishers too a higher standard than we do. Saying 'buy your games after release' is simply allowing the issue to continue when we should be forcing publishers to release well tested products. No other industry releases so much broken stuff than the video games industry its ridiculous.
Modifié par andyr1986, 09 avril 2011 - 01:18 .
#68
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 01:21
Roen106 wrote...
I see only game play issues listed there. Will the patch also fix the problems for people who still are unable to even launch and play the game? Tech support is still linking to the forums with no solution yet apparent.
I'd like to second this. We don't have, as yet, any satisfactory fix to a number of problems (mostly related to the DRM, I think) that prevents us from playing the game at all, and I (and others, I'm sure) were hoping that 1.02 will address these issues.
#69
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 01:46
DashRunner92 wrote...
Hope it patches the Sebastian Act 2 and 3 quest crashes
I hope so too. Also, I hope it fixes the Night Terrors barrel puzzle glitch that makes the puzzles impossible to resolve.
#70
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 04:35
#71
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 05:22
Moondoggie wrote...
Unfortunately when games come out there tends to be a few unpleasent suprises when lots of people with various platforms and various hardware play the game you might find some problems you were not expecting. And a patch takes time. They cannot simply wave a magic wand or just program a patch and put it out. Things have to be done the right way with proper research and testing or you end up making the game worse not better. I'd be happier that they are properly testing it and getting it certified to ensure the quality of the patch than just throwing it out and hoping for the best.
Indeed. If the patch is successful, perhaps they'll consider using the same or similar "mighty testers" for future Dragon Age products.
#72
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 05:27
Modifié par AgentWhale, 09 avril 2011 - 05:29 .
#73
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 05:43
#74
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 05:45
Moondoggie wrote...
Unfortunately when games come out there tends to be a few unpleasent suprises when lots of people with various platforms and various hardware play the game you might find some problems you were not expecting. And a patch takes time. They cannot simply wave a magic wand or just program a patch and put it out. Things have to be done the right way with proper research and testing or you end up making the game worse not better. I'd be happier that they are properly testing it and getting it certified to ensure the quality of the patch than just throwing it out and hoping for the best.
Maybe so, but some of these bugs definitely should have been noticed before release. Has anybody not had the Merrill bug in Act 3, or the slow-mo/negative damage-resistance Hawke bug, or been able to play the "Who Needs Rescuing?" quest at all? It honestly seems like their testers finished Act 2 and said, "eh, the rest is probably fine, right?" considering how common some of the bugs are. Taking time to find a way to fix a bug and get a patch out for it? Fine. Having bugs this glaringly obvious and game-breaking and releasing the game in the first place? Not so fine.
#75
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 07:53
In the case, for instance, of Sebastian's friendship buff bug, it's obvious from reading the game's release README file that they were aware of an issue causing degradation of Damage Resistance. They need to evolve their testing processes to ensure that these problems are not only noted, but thoroughly identified, traced, debugged, fixed, and resolved before release.
A hard release deadline makes it problematic, yes, and this is where the PR sides of the QA processes need to evolve. I've already used "teachable moment" so I will throw up another recent catchphrase/buzzword. "Transparency." Imagine if we saw the ongoing process of tackling the various issues from the developer's side? Remember, I'm not talking about the existing processes here; I'm talking an evolution.
It will be interesting to see how things proceed in DA3 with respect to these processes. Perhaps nothing will change; perhaps everything will change. Who knows?




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