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[Mhorhe83]

Finally will be able to resume my playthrough! Good stuff

[juanna]

I have had a lot of problems in the game but happily it has not stopped me playing and I think the game is great! I will be glad to have a fix for the slow motion but I have worked around the rest by re-starting at times. Unfortunately I didn't know about the slowing bug until it was to late.
Well done for now keeping us up to date and I agree that I would rather have a fix that works rather than a quick one which might cause more problems.

[Baddab]

Please tell me the slow-motion fix is retroactive and that I don't have to restart my playthrough just to get back to normal.

[Chairon de Celeste]

Thanks for the update - much appreciated.

Especially the missing chantry board quests,
the oddities around Sketch's quest as well as
the misfiring 'who needs rescue' are quite
bothering - good to hear about the fixes.

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[RisingDragon]

how do the victims of the "sequel-celebration-bug" [means since ia and other players of DAII downloaded ME2, a Semikolon (the german word, dont know the english one) is missing and updatet news like a new patch, new dlcs, etc.] get to know if its done?

[tanuki]

Good thing about Merril bugs being adressed!
Now, has Anders inaccessible rivalry ending bug been fixed? I have one of my playthrough on hold just for this.

[Inzhuna]

Thanks for this, I hope Anders's rivalry path bugs are fixed as well.

[AeroniX]

Nice.. I'd completed the game once and I'd to say the main things that bugs me are all the bugs.. Will wait for this patch before I begin my second playthrough.. I'll be playing as a rogue/mage, hopefully the occasional occurrence of never-ending knock-backs, which usually cause my Hawke to render helpless till he dies, could be resolved too =>

[Lith81]

Please I too would like to know from some bioware employee if the fix for the slow motion Hawke is retroactive or I have to delete my save game, thanks!

[Cmpuwiz03]

The fact remains is that bugs do slip through the cracks a lot during the final certification processes before release. I cannot name you one game in all my years of gaming that is bug free. We have bugs that are noticeable and bugs that are present under the hood that doesn't affect gameplay.

RPG's alone are hard to get right on day 1. You have all this code and whenever serious changes are made you risk breaking something in the end that is not seen by QA until the said games initial release.

[Nukenin]

RisingDragon wrote...

how do the victims of the "sequel-celebration-bug" [means since ia and other players of DAII downloaded ME2, a Semikolon (the german word, dont know the english one) is missing and updatet news like a new patch, new dlcs, etc.] get to know if its done?

Does the fix mentioned here help?  -> http://social.biowar...7003326#7003541

[Rm80]

I was about to start a new playthrough but I think i will wait for this patch before doing so.

[scrotimusmaximus]

I'm going to take a stab here and say that the patch will not be retroactive in fixing character slow down. The wording from the devs says that the stats will be applied properly when re-loading and saving. There's no mention about fixing existing broken saves. Sorry boys and girls, if you have a broken save and don't want to edit your savegame file, you'll need to start again!
I could be wrong, but the wording is pretty clear, and if they were working on a retroactive fix they would say so. Additionally the question of whether the patch is retroactive or not has been asked many times in several threads, and not yet been officially answered...

[Halinu]

Inzhuna wrote...

Thanks for this, I hope Anders's rivalry path bugs are fixed as well.

Me too!

Thanks for the update on some of the patch contents.

[Mongoose22]

scrotimusmaximus wrote...

I'm going to take a stab here and say that the patch will not be retroactive in fixing character slow down. The wording from the devs says that the stats will be applied properly when re-loading and saving. There's no mention about fixing existing broken saves. Sorry boys and girls, if you have a broken save and don't want to edit your savegame file, you'll need to start again!
I could be wrong, but the wording is pretty clear, and if they were working on a retroactive fix they would say so. Additionally the question of whether the patch is retroactive or not has been asked many times in several threads, and not yet been officially answered...

Given the update isn't particularly specific about what's in the fix, I wouldn't start a riot quite yet.  These aren't the actual release notes, so no sense in lambasting the devs about what you think might be missing.

[spudrow2005]

will the isabella/sebatian friend bug  be fixed or the Valiance runes stat corruption?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

If I'm already part of the way through a playthrough, will it fix import glitches that occur later in the game or would I still have to start again?

[Phantom Ryu]

scrotimusmaximus wrote...

I'm going to take a stab here and say that the patch will not be retroactive in fixing character slow down. The wording from the devs says that the stats will be applied properly when re-loading and saving. There's no mention about fixing existing broken saves. Sorry boys and girls, if you have a broken save and don't want to edit your savegame file, you'll need to start again!
I could be wrong, but the wording is pretty clear, and if they were working on a retroactive fix they would say so. Additionally the question of whether the patch is retroactive or not has been asked many times in several threads, and not yet been officially answered...

I don't think it would be possible to fix the slowdown bug through a patch becausse of how the bug works.  It applies a permanent -5 to the attribute and stacks it.  After that, the game has no reason to keep track of the original value (which is the source of the bug).  There would be no way for the patch to look at the saved data and figure out what the "correct" value is supposed to be (unless save games keep a ridiculous amount of history for the character; such a history would be terribly inefficient and unnecessary in theory).

[Mongoose22]

It shouldn't be that hard to figure out what the normal base attack speed is and just use that value instead of some negative value when you load a game. The value would then be fixed the next time you saved.

[TallBearNC]

So it looks like the consoles ARE delaying the PC patch.

Interesting.

BW/EA must have some legal agreement with SOE and MS that if they patch one system, all must be patched. I dunno why they would enter into any such agreement, nor have I ever heard of MS or SOE demanding that a gaming company can't patch the PC and not the consoles, etc. This is just plain weird.

[TallBearNC]

Phantom Ryu wrote...

scrotimusmaximus wrote...

I'm going to take a stab here and say that the patch will not be retroactive in fixing character slow down. The wording from the devs says that the stats will be applied properly when re-loading and saving. There's no mention about fixing existing broken saves. Sorry boys and girls, if you have a broken save and don't want to edit your savegame file, you'll need to start again!
I could be wrong, but the wording is pretty clear, and if they were working on a retroactive fix they would say so. Additionally the question of whether the patch is retroactive or not has been asked many times in several threads, and not yet been officially answered...

I don't think it would be possible to fix the slowdown bug through a patch becausse of how the bug works.  It applies a permanent -5 to the attribute and stacks it.  After that, the game has no reason to keep track of the original value (which is the source of the bug).  There would be no way for the patch to look at the saved data and figure out what the "correct" value is supposed to be (unless save games keep a ridiculous amount of history for the character; such a history would be terribly inefficient and unnecessary in theory).

1) A patch WILL fix the bug, but not the save game data (you are correct)

2) A patch will NOT fix this bug with *existing* playthroughs, but it will prevent it from getting worse

3) Once 1.02 is out, to 100% solve the issue you must:
  a) patch to 1.02
  edit the save file and reset the two base values (base attack speed and base dmg resistance) to 0

If you don't do step 3, the only way to get away from this 100% is to start a new game, or you can choose to keep playing, but it wont' get any worse.

Modifié par TallBearNC, 09 avril 2011 - 10:21 .

[TallBearNC]

You can safely edit da2 save files with pygff 0.5.1 or later. If anyone needs the info, I can tell you what two areas to edit to reset the base to 0.

You can do this even w/o 1.02. This will solve your bug. After you fix it, keep isa and seb out of your party... or if you must have them.. here is a trick.. set both BASE values to 50! LOL that'd be attack 50% faster and 50% dmg resistance. It will then take this bug quite a while to get you down to 0 and into the negative numbers

social.bioware.com/project/1936/#files has v0.5.5 of the gff4 editor that will work with DA2

gff4editor-0.5.5b.7z 
is the file you want, and you use the editor.exe program to open and edit DA2 save files

Modifié par TallBearNC, 09 avril 2011 - 10:42 .

[Luke Barrett]

TallBearNC wrote...

So it looks like the consoles ARE delaying the PC patch.

Interesting.

BW/EA must have some legal agreement with SOE and MS that if they patch one system, all must be patched. I dunno why they would enter into any such agreement, nor have I ever heard of MS or SOE demanding that a gaming company can't patch the PC and not the consoles, etc. This is just plain weird.

I can 100% say that the console patches have no effect on when the PC patch is being released. If it was delayed, it would have been for a different reason.

[BTCentral]

Thank you for the update Luke, good to know

[TallBearNC]

"The 1.02 Patch on PC/Mac (1.01 Title Update on X360/PS3) is still in the
final certification process with EA, Microsoft, and Sony but is not
expected to come out this weekend. Thank you for your continued patience
and we look forward to getting this in your hands soon."

cool thanks Luke. I didn't think there was a legal issue, but the way the OP was worded looked like they were all tied together for some reason and it was "cookie cutter" pasted to all 3 platform form areas.

So by your reply, I'm guessing it's more like this:

The PC/MAC patch is with EA
The Ps3 is with SOE
The xbox360 is with MS

... and that each will be released, in turn, as they pass certification by each company?

Modifié par TallBearNC, 09 avril 2011 - 11:58 .