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#301
Cyano Khaar

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Trefayne wrote...

In fact, I went back to a save just before I got the friendship bonus, got the bonus, go to Gamlen's House, save, reload, "Thumbs Up" appears.


Lmao, your kidding me right? 

What a joke.

I'd like some confirmation before I go to play. I WAS looking forward to it, but now I'm not so sure.

Modifié par Cyano Khaar, 14 avril 2011 - 03:52 .


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tivadar27

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Cyano Khaar wrote...

Trefayne wrote...

In fact, I went back to a save just before I got the friendship bonus, got the bonus, go to Gamlen's House, save, reload, "Thumbs Up" appears.


Lmao, your kidding me right? 

What a joke.

I'd like some confirmation before I go to play. I WAS looking forward to it, but now I'm not so sure.


Keep in mind it's unclear if it appeared after he loaded the save, or was continuously there through the visit to Gamlen's house.  If the second is the case, there's potentially no bug.  If the first is the case, HULK SMASH!!!

Modifié par tivadar27, 14 avril 2011 - 04:10 .


#303
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blade_1987 wrote...

Well we know that it is being removed from the stat screen properly. I don't think there is anything to worry about it shouldn't degrade your stats anymore. If someone wants to volunteer to save and load a hundred times and see if it slows them down then be my guest.


Or someone could save a couple of times and open the save in the firstblight save editor.  It'll show you the attack speed clearly.

#304
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PM sent halokitty

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Move along, nothing to see here.

Modifié par Mark B, 14 avril 2011 - 04:24 .


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Buff Beefbroth wrote...

Between the unprofessional manner in which Bioware employees participate in the community


This has to be a joke. It HAS to be.

As for Thumbs Up showing up in the abilities screen, do other party members' bonus abilities show up now, too? It seems like that should be the case if they are in your party and the ability is activated.

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Will this patch fix some of the quest issues like the one with Merril's "Questioning beliefs" ocurring after the trip to Sundermount or "Who needs rescuing?"

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Fawst wrote...

Buff Beefbroth wrote...

Between the unprofessional manner in which Bioware employees participate in the community


This has to be a joke. It HAS to be.

As for Thumbs Up showing up in the abilities screen, do other party members' bonus abilities show up now, too? It seems like that should be the case if they are in your party and the ability is activated.


Only things that effect Hawke show up under abilities - increased attack speed from Isabella and Damage res. from Sebastion are the only 2 I think.

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Fawst wrote...

Buff Beefbroth wrote...

Between the unprofessional manner in which Bioware employees participate in the community


This has to be a joke. It HAS to be.


In his defense. I typically come to work in a hoodie supporting bands like Parkway Drive and my desk is just covered in Pepsi cans and foam darts. Quite unprofessional :pinched:

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Okay sooo. I got the update, the slow-mo Hawke is more managable. But the romances are not importing correctly? Imports from awakening and witch hunt are messed up and being worked on? I asked before and i'll ask again was this game every suppose to mention my Warden ran off with Morrigan through the mirrior? I was looking for that in my playthroughs it's important to my story. I mean Fereldans lookin for him right, they kinda boned without the mages. Guess Merrill is gonna have to save the day with that one :/.

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Do we have any idea how long we can expect to wait for the next patch? I'm figuring that this one is more of a plaster to tide us over until a bigger bandage.


Fawst wrote...

Buff Beefbroth wrote...

Between the unprofessional manner in which Bioware employees participate in the community


This has to be a joke. It HAS to be.

As for Thumbs Up showing up in the abilities screen, do other party members' bonus abilities show up now, too? It seems like that should be the case if they are in your party and the ability is activated.


I have to say, I have seen a fair few comments which would back up what Buff Beefbroth said; not everyone is fond of feeling as if they are being mocked. What I mean is I've seen Bioware folk acting a little childish within threads where there are complaints. I understand it must be horrendously frustrating when there are so many people who will scream, cry and act like toddlers without fully understanding the processes behind game development. However, I believe anyone representing a company must rise above the pettiness and act like adults. This means avoiding snarky comments imitating said foolish users.

Having said this, it could be a lot worse. I am grateful to those Bioware employees who have taken their time to address issues and keep us informed of patch progress. I've said it before and I'll say it again: a little info is better than none.

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ebby0110 wrote...

I asked before and i'll ask again was this game every suppose to mention my Warden ran off with Morrigan through the mirrior? I was looking for that in my playthroughs it's important to my story. I mean Fereldans lookin for him right, they kinda boned without the mages. Guess Merrill is gonna have to save the day with that one :/.


Currently, nothing in DA2 references Golems or Witch Hunt. This is not to say that nothing will ever.

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LyndseyCousland wrote...

Do we have any idea how long we can expect to wait for the next patch? I'm figuring that this one is more of a plaster to tide us over until a bigger bandage.


Fawst wrote...

Buff Beefbroth wrote...

Between the unprofessional manner in which Bioware employees participate in the community


This has to be a joke. It HAS to be.

As for Thumbs Up showing up in the abilities screen, do other party members' bonus abilities show up now, too? It seems like that should be the case if they are in your party and the ability is activated.


I have to say, I have seen a fair few comments which would back up what Buff Beefbroth said; not everyone is fond of feeling as if they are being mocked. What I mean is I've seen Bioware folk acting a little childish within threads where there are complaints. I understand it must be horrendously frustrating when there are so many people who will scream, cry and act like toddlers without fully understanding the processes behind game development. However, I believe anyone representing a company must rise above the pettiness and act like adults. This means avoiding snarky comments imitating said foolish users.

Having said this, it could be a lot worse. I am grateful to those Bioware employees who have taken their time to address issues and keep us informed of patch progress. I've said it before and I'll say it again: a little info is better than none.


I've seen the same, this appeared on the DA wikia as well.  Gaider made some comment along the lines of "prepare to be disappointed".  It came across as very condescending, though having heard Gaider speak in interviews it could have just been him trying to be intriguing/suspenseful.
(Reference to the thread: http://social.biowar...ex/6589945&lf=8)

I largely think this is a PR issue.  Having developers speak on behalf of the company, while it does give us a direct line in, also means there may be flubs like this where they get frustrated or things are misunderstood.  Personally, I feel like most of the comments I've received have been helpful, especially from you Luke.  But just having the developers be a bit more conscious of the fact that they are in fact talking with people who for better or worse have a deep investment and commitment to Dragon Age would be a good idea.  I know sometimes I make posts online that come across as passive aggressive, when that was clearly not the intention.  If I'm sending something out, I commonly have someone else read over it to make sure my implied tone is in fact the one that is coming across.

Modifié par tivadar27, 14 avril 2011 - 05:09 .


#314
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Luke Barrett wrote...

Fawst wrote...

Buff Beefbroth wrote...

Between the unprofessional manner in which Bioware employees participate in the community


This has to be a joke. It HAS to be.


In his defense. I typically come to work in a hoodie supporting bands like Parkway Drive and my desk is just covered in Pepsi cans and foam darts. Quite unprofessional :pinched:


If only you had said "bands like dredg." Now I'm forced to agree with you on your questionable professional attitude! ;)

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I didn't mean to imply that all Bioware employees were acting unprofessionally, seeing as how Luke here is posting informatively and with good humor.

And I was impressed with Gaider's response to the absurd concept of "letting down the straight male gamer".

But blaming poor reception on a supposed 4chan campaign against the game, rather than being open to discussion and honesty regarding the game's faults that exist regardless of who points them out struck me as a bit silly. It came off as "there is literally nothing wrong with our game, and any complaints about it are completely invalid because, well, 4chan!"

Then the whole banning of somebody from using the games they payed for simply because of a remark during a developer chat. The remark in question could be argued as childish, but it's equally childish to say, "wellp, you can't play your games anymore" and then try to backpedal when it receives media attention by claiming it was some sort of computer error. A computer error that affected one person, which just happened to be that guy who said something bad about the game and company. Those crazy computers!

I usually don't really care about games or game companies enough to take real note of these sorts of things, but this particular experience with Dragon Age 2 has been something else. I've definitely thrown away my money and time on a lot of silly pursuits in my life, but Dragon Age 2 is just about the only one in recent memory I feel like I regret being invested in. I don't wish ill on Bioware or anything, I'm just surprised.

Buuut, this is a patch thread, I'm just one person, and I've already typed a whole bunch of serious words about it.

Modifié par Buff Beefbroth, 14 avril 2011 - 05:18 .


#316
tivadar27

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Yeah ok, actually reading the full thing in (http://social.biowar...ex/6589945&lf=8), I think Gaider clearly woke up on the wrong side of the bed that day... As others have said, I understand you guys must have bad days just like anyone else, and it can't help a lot of the berating Bioware takes on here. A lot of it is clearly unjustified. That being said, displays like that really do nothing to help people's perception of the company as a whole.

Also, I feel like an official "I'm sorry" would go a long way. Not for the game itself, just for the lack of QA. A lot of people are reasonably frustrated. Obviously, you guys can do what you want, and I'll enjoy the game either way, just a suggestion.