shantisands wrote...
Oh, as for the OP's feeling on Anders and Fenris' sister.... I really honestly just saw it as a " OMG you big hater! You were jealous of your sister and used that hatred of her powers and your magisters to blame all magic forever!" No matter how short-sighted he had become, to ME, at the time anyway.... it seemed more like a DING DING! I understand this now, its a sibling rivalry/fear thing. I could be wrong, and perhaps I was wishful thinking at the time, but that is how it came across to me.
That makes no sense, Fenris didn't know he had a sister and didn't know she was a mage when he started hating mages, so she could not have had an effect on his hatred of mages.
Plaintiff wrote...
The Dalish give their mages positions
of incredible responsibility and not one of them that we've seen has
turned into an abomination ever. Even Merrill, who is a blood
mage, has never harmed anyone except in self defense. Why? Because the
Dalish treat their mages with at least a basic level of respect and they
are taught to embrace their powers for the ways in which they could
help people.
While I agree with most of your points here, umm, the Dalish really aren't a good example overall. Sure, we have Lanaya and Merrill as good examples, but we also have Zathrian and Marethari as bad examples, so our history with Dalish Keepers is...not good.
stobie wrote...
Thinking Anders a complete jerk over this,
however, doesn't make the Chantry any better. There's a line the Old
Cleric can say, if you point out that the hero of Ferelden defeated the
blight, not the Maker,' and she'll say something like, "The Maker
can work EVEN through an elf.. or mage, or whatever you are..." Scabby
old bat! I was particularly annoyed when she gave her 'even an elf'
speech, after my nice boy City Elf did all this good!
I actually found that one of the most infuriating moments. Her own religion preaches that the Maker has abandoned us, and worse, preaches that our own acts caused the Maker to turn his back on us. If we can be responsible for our failures then we damn well better own our successes, and she demeans the Warden and all of us by even suggesting that the Maker was responsible. I really wish there had been a chance to retort to her bull****, in any way.
Mariquis wrote...
With Merrill I find he often uses
himself as an example in order to scare her away from a more dangerous
path, because she seems to be too headstrong/views herself as being too
capable/too knowledgeable to acknowledge it. Anders himself fell into
that exact same trap.
He voluntarily joined with a spirit out of the belief that spirits are benevolent and
good, as opposed to demons. Merrill understands the situation better and would never be that foolish - she knows that spirit, demon, they are
all dangerous and would never voluntarily do that. She is willing to do risky things, but she also seems to fully understand and acknowledge their risks, unlike Anders, who didn't truly understand what he was doing.
Plaintiff wrote...
I think this is just a matter of
cramming in as many Friendship/Rivalry opportunities as they can, for
those who didn't manage to max out the entire party by the end of Act 1.
It's kind of unfair to place the spotlight on Anders, ALL the
characters have their jerkass moments. Merrill takes a rivalry hit if
you turn down Torpor's deal in Night Terrors. She is AGAINST saving
Feynriel from becoming an abomination. Even given her past association
with demons, that still makes her kind of a ****.
This rivalry hit to Merrill is at odds with her actual dialogue, which says 'I don't think we should be doing this' or something pretty close to that. I believe it is an error, in that there is only one option to exit that conversation without agreeing to Torpor's deal. Unfortunately it is the same option to exit the conversation as is used if you don't hear him out. Merrill hates it when people don't at least hear out demons.
Conversely, from the OP's descriptions (I have not seen that conversation personally), Anders actually supports giving Fenris to Danarius
in dialogue rather than merely through approval.
As far as the original question, I agree with the point that Anders really isn't Anders, he's a vengeance abomination at that point. And vengeance really fits with enjoying
anything bad happen to his personal hated foe, even if he would otherwise disagree with it. He hates Fenris, so
anything bad that happens to Fenris makes him happy.
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I hadn't seen that dialogue until just now. And I sat there going "...did she really say that? Did Varric just say she said that just to make his best drinking buddy look good? Because that is the most accurate description of what is going on at the time Varric is being questioned that I've seen..." Of course, didn't Isabela say her mother was a fake fortuneteller? Maybe Isabela inherited some not-so-fake-after-all ability and just doesn't know it. 
