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Kai Leng will be the one sent to kill Shepard?


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#201
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dreman9999 wrote...

jbblue05 wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

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I think Liara is a 300 year old fully trained Cerberus Commando.http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png.


You are too delusional in your love for failberus...


Liara is a Cerberus OperativeImage IPB

1. She 's 106.
2. She just worked with them to get Sheperds body back.


She's 108 actually and she's will be 109 in ME3.

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Kai Leng? Big whoop. Shepard could take him.

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esideras wrote...

I acually doubt that is Sanders as Sanders is an N7 marine, no? I'd suppose N7 has some form of grooming rule.
But the long hair and ponytail + assassin + cybernetics, makes me thing more of asian and Kai Leng.
Haven't read the book but do they describe Lengs appearance?


Especially since he has what appears to be a Cerberus logo tattooed on his right shoulder, if you look closely.

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Scary thought inbound: James Sanders is secretly Kai Leng.

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It's clearly not Sanders. The blurb about Sanders isn't attached to the picture of the ninja-esq Asian man. Pay attention to the article layout, people.

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*TIM lights a cigarette*
TIM: We've got a loose cannon that I need you to take care of.
KL: Who is it?
TIM: You'll be briefed on the target at an appropriate time. For now, all you need to know is that you'll be going to Earth.
KL: Earth? But isn't Shep...I quit.

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I don't need, nor want any explanation who this Leng person is, because in all fairness, he's just ONE airlock away from spacedust!!

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LOL. I misread the threat title as

"Kai Leng will be the one who kills Shepard".

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Ieldra2 wrote...

LOL. I misread the threat title as

"Kai Leng will be the one who kills Shepard".


Apparently you can bleed out from breaking a foot off in someone.

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my problem with TIM sending an assassin to kill Shepard is it totally destroys the character of TIM

TIM is called The Illusive Man because he thinks ahead - really far ahead - of everybody else...

now why would TIM send an assassin again? Cerberus rebuilt Shepard with direct supervision from TIM himself none of this "off the hands" type business like with Project Overlord, and Shepard ended up with extra bits and pieces

basically: if TIM ever thought assassination was necessary ever - he would've had them put a bomb in Shepard's skull

which to me either means two things... 1) Kai Leng is from a rogue Cerberus cell, or 2) TIM is a brick

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88mphSlayer wrote...

my problem with TIM sending an assassin to kill Shepard is it totally destroys the character of TIM

TIM is called The Illusive Man because he thinks ahead - really far ahead - of everybody else...

now why would TIM send an assassin again? Cerberus rebuilt Shepard with direct supervision from TIM himself none of this "off the hands" type business like with Project Overlord, and Shepard ended up with extra bits and pieces

basically: if TIM ever thought assassination was necessary ever - he would've had them put a bomb in Shepard's skull

which to me either means two things... 1) Kai Leng is from a rogue Cerberus cell, or 2) TIM is a brick


We don't even know why Cerberus is targeting Shepard, like you said maybe it's another cell like the ones who killed Kahoku. This thread isn't confirmation of anything, just a lot of speculation at this point.

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I wonder if Kai Leng might kill Anderson to get Shepard and payback from being shot in both legs. If that does happen though I would like to see Shepard snap whether being Paragon or Renegade do something horrible like trap Kai Leng in coffin and sending him into deep space to die.

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Scary thought inbound: James Sanders is secretly Kai Leng.



James Sanders looks asian and Kai Leng is described as having asian and scottish features

Kai Leng could be James Sanders alias or vice-versaImage IPB

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Only if we get to fight him in a fist fight. Shepard took a Yahg in a fist fight Kai took a Krogan. Should be interesting.

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Only if we get to fight him in a fist fight. Shepard took a Yahg in a fist fight Kai took a Krogan. Should be interesting.


Indeed.

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Kai Leng is mostly Asiatic in appearance, but he has some Slavic ancestry as well, so he doesn't look like a full Asian.

The only tattoo he has is an Ourobouros on the back of his neck, although it is concealed from time to time when he has to work "low profile".

And he's not a rogue agent, he still works for Cerberus and takes his orders directly from the Illusive Man.

Most likely, he has taken Miranda's place as the Illusive Man's right hand person.

Modifié par Tilarta, 14 avril 2011 - 04:54 .


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88mphSlayer wrote...

my problem with TIM sending an assassin to kill Shepard is it totally destroys the character of TIM

TIM is called The Illusive Man because he thinks ahead - really far ahead - of everybody else...

now why would TIM send an assassin again? Cerberus rebuilt Shepard with direct supervision from TIM himself none of this "off the hands" type business like with Project Overlord, and Shepard ended up with extra bits and pieces

basically: if TIM ever thought assassination was necessary ever - he would've had them put a bomb in Shepard's skull

which to me either means two things... 1) Kai Leng is from a rogue Cerberus cell, or 2) TIM is a brick


I concur.

The third (dreaded by me) possibility is that TIM is indoctrinated.
Because otherwise, it would not make sense for his character. I can see him assassinating Shepard after the war. But not during.

Apparently he will have an important role in ME3. So maybe there is more to it than just what the rumours say.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 14 avril 2011 - 05:01 .


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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

my problem with TIM sending an assassin to kill Shepard is it totally destroys the character of TIM

TIM is called The Illusive Man because he thinks ahead - really far ahead - of everybody else...

now why would TIM send an assassin again? Cerberus rebuilt Shepard with direct supervision from TIM himself none of this "off the hands" type business like with Project Overlord, and Shepard ended up with extra bits and pieces

basically: if TIM ever thought assassination was necessary ever - he would've had them put a bomb in Shepard's skull

which to me either means two things... 1) Kai Leng is from a rogue Cerberus cell, or 2) TIM is a brick


I concur.

The third (dreaded by me) possibility is that TIM is indoctrinated.
Because otherwise, it would not make sense for his character. I can see him assassinating Shepard after the war. But not during.

Apparently he will have an important role in ME3. So maybe there is more to it than just what the rumours say.

Maybe TIM isn't indoctrinated maybe it is Shepard who is or slowly becoming so. TIM might realized this and decide that Shepard need to be killed and use his body to be cloned.

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It is completely unlikely that Shepherd is indoctrinated or can be so.

Benezia said it takes days to indoctrinate someone, a strong mind can hold out for weeks before succumbing to the influence of the Reapers.

I'm assuming that's consistent exposure, not in bits and pieces.
And having a strong mind, Shepherd would have to be exposed to an Indoctrination field for weeks, not days in order to be taken over.

Shepherd simply hasn't had that level of exposure to indoctrination, they've hardly been near any Reaper technology for that length of time.

TIM isn't indoctrinated, but the recent Evolution series has said he is connected to the Reapers somehow, because he's partially a Reaper Avatar.
Obviously, they can't exert control over him, but he could be using the link to extract information, if it's possible to do that.
He does speak the Reaper language, after all, even though nobody taught it to him.

I did find some information on Garrus' hand-to-hand combat abilities.
A version of his conversation about the female Turian says "they were both the top ranked hand-to-hand specialists on the ship".
I wonder why my version didn't have that line.
He then goes on to say the fight lasts for hours before the ship commander called it a tie.
Anyway, Kai Leng is now assigned quad-kicked status if he ever goes up against Garrus, based on that information.

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Tilarta wrote...

It is completely unlikely that Shepherd is indoctrinated or can be so.

Benezia said it takes days to indoctrinate someone, a strong mind can hold out for weeks before succumbing to the influence of the Reapers.

I'm assuming that's consistent exposure, not in bits and pieces.
And having a strong mind, Shepherd would have to be exposed to an Indoctrination field for weeks, not days in order to be taken over.

Shepherd simply hasn't had that level of exposure to indoctrination, they've hardly been near any Reaper technology for that length of time.

TIM isn't indoctrinated, but the recent Evolution series has said he is connected to the Reapers somehow, because he's partially a Reaper Avatar.
Obviously, they can't exert control over him, but he could be using the link to extract information, if it's possible to do that.
He does speak the Reaper language, after all, even though nobody taught it to him.

I did find some information on Garrus' hand-to-hand combat abilities.
A version of his conversation about the female Turian says "they were both the top ranked hand-to-hand specialists on the ship".
I wonder why my version didn't have that line.
He then goes on to say the fight lasts for hours before the ship commander called it a tie.
Anyway, Kai Leng is now assigned quad-kicked status if he ever goes up against Garrus, based on that information.


Your theory is plausible. It only makes sense for Ceberus to kill you if you choose to destroy the base.

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Um, I did blow up the base!

And not satisfied with doing that, I told TIM to take all of Cerberus on a hiking trip (using all the Renegade options presented).

I guess I'm not their favorite person at the moment......

But if Cerberus wants to make trouble, bring it!

I have the Shadow Broker's network, the Krogan and the Rachni backing me up, not to mention EDI, the Normandy SR2 and a Reaper gun.

Oh look, they're reconsidering picking a fight......

But seriously, I expect Cerberus will still try to give you missions and stuff, but there won't be a whole lot of trust between the two sides if you spat acid into their face.

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Take Morinth and have her seduce Kai Leng and nom on his mind, for fun.

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Sajuro wrote...

Take Morinth and have her seduce Kai Leng and nom on his mind, for fun.

Wouldn't work, Kai Leng is a huge Xenophobe!

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The BS Police wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

Take Morinth and have her seduce Kai Leng and nom on his mind, for fun.

Wouldn't work, Kai Leng is a huge Xenophobe!


Yep... BUT there is a hook which could lead to his end from her "hands".

Morinth is mass Effect Poison Ivi which use combination of telephatic abilites to seduce her victim untill s/he become absolutely unable to defend itself against Morinth overwhelming mind.

So far she meet only one single person able to resist her influence aka Shepard Commander:ph34r:, but to be honest our Shep is not an ordinary human after all (especialy not after Lazarus) but would Leng be able to resist her?

Doubtful...  unless he got special training how to resist such mind influence so i think Morinth would dealt with him rather fast... :devil:

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Garrus may be th most calculated fighter on your team next to Mordin and Thane
Jack? Eh idk
Tali? depends on the situation
Thane? agreed. bring snacks, take pictures.
Kaiden and Ashley? Both are probably rank 7 in their class, actual class has little effect in combatants
Miranda and Jacob? Eh.. again, situational.
Liara? that would be very interesting, as she's been working as an intelligence agent for the two years, she has probably done a couple assasinations on her own. position as shadow broker is a huge advantage.


Shep vs. Leng is kinda what i've wanted for a while now, It would be totally fun to watch and play

As for non LI squaddies
Kasumi? Not such a bad fight, but if she wins, its by luck.
Zaeed? Leng doesn't have a chance
Grunt? Leng's killed a Krogan with his bare hands before, but that krogan wasn't Grunt, and I don't see it going well for Mr. Leng
Samara? She'd probably win
Legion? so long as Leng doesn't get  close, they should be able to take him
Mordin? Shepard will avenge you my friend.


Garrus is reckless just look at the situations he gotten himself into on Omega.  Plus Kai Leng eats Turians for Breakfast just read Retribution.

Ashley is a B4 Operations Chief  I;m not sure about Kaiden.

I don't trust Liara. I don't think she's an innocent 108 year old asari with no formal combat training
I think Liara is a 300 year old fully trained Cerberus Commando.Image IPB.

Leng is just as proficient in combat as SHepard and Leng probably has cybernetic implants also

Those Turians werent space batman though.

Liara what? is that you, Zulu?

You can't really compare shep and leng, as shep is pretty payer-specific