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trobbins777 wrote...

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Even though they hotted Ashley up, she's still an annoying, poetry reading, god-lovin', xenophobic be-yatch. The only reason I don't kill her on Virmire is because Kaiden is such a sniveling goody goody. And then he gets replaced with Jacob. I don't need one white bread, vanilla nancy boy, let alon two.


What an adorable little troll. I will name you Fluffy. :wizard: 


Fluffy? I thought Rex or Simon would suit it more.:wizard:
Though the real issue here is whether its house-trained.:unsure:

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My issue is that she wouldn't just join me or wish me well or even say she would do what she could on her end. Instead we get into a fight about things that don't matter. As for her thinking Cerberus is the devil, that's crap. Talis people where slaughtered by Cerberusa ship exploded witch to a Quarian must be like the worst form of terrorism. She joined me without a moment of hesitation that's what matters.

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Catalyst38 wrote...

My issue is that she wouldn't just join me or wish me well or even say she would do what she could on her end. Instead we get into a fight about things that don't matter.


A couple of things to point out here. First of all she does still leave saying to you to try and be careful. Likewise, in the email she sends she does nothing but wish you well and apologize and admit she was wrong.

Like I've said many times before, I don't blame her for not leaping right up and joining Shepard right on the spot. You expect her to get over the shock of seeing you alive, the PTSD associated with your death, the two years of grief and slow recovery and the fact that you are now working for a terrorist organiziation within five minutes?
Not to mention, leaving active duty to go join a group directly opposed to the group you have sworn loyalty to is what one can technically call 'treason'. Something that can be punishable by death.

Finally if you talk to Anderson you find out from him that by sending the report on Horizon Ashley actually confirmed the story about the Collectors as true. He also mentions that she's been trying to link the Collectors to the Reapers with evidence but hasn't been able to find any.

As for her thinking Cerberus is the devil, that's crap.


Actually if you serve the Alliance, you pretty much have every reason to consider Cerberus 'the Devil'.

Cerberus have been considered an enemy of the Alliance and the Council for quite some time now. Ever since they went rogue and started doing experiments against Alliance protocols without Alliance permission.

They have attacked Alliance Ships and stolen dark matter, they've killed entire platoons of Alliance soldiers and raided Alliance outposts. They've killed Admirals, they've assassinated high ranking officers within the Alliance as well as quite a few political figure so as to replace them with people who follow a more 'Cerberus approved' conduct.
Also let's not forget the sick experiments. Oh man Cerberus do a lot of those, often times to humans.

And this has been going on for a considerable amount of time. Point is, if you are Alliance.... with all that history behind you, you have every reason not to trust Cerberus.

Talis people where slaughtered by Cerberusa ship exploded witch to a Quarian must be like the worst form of terrorism. She joined me without a moment of hesitation that's what matters.


What happened on the Migrant Fleet was tragic, and of course Quarians now have every reason to distrust Cerberus. But then as I pointed out above, so to do Alliance soldiers.
I mean if blowing up a ship is bad for Quarians, what does dead Admirals, illegal experimentation and attacks on outposts (not to mention feeding people to thresher maws) mean to the Alliance?
Seriously, don't you dare try to argue that Tali has more of a reason to dislike Cerberus than Ashley does. They both have equally valid reasons.

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I keep seeing people saying Miranda's not hot. Are you people nuts? I mean seriously...

The actress she's based on is pretty too (though blonde which is automatic negative points for me :D):

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V-rex wrote...

Catalyst38 wrote...

My issue is that she wouldn't just join me or wish me well or even say she would do what she could on her end. Instead we get into a fight about things that don't matter.


A couple of things to point out here. First of all she does still leave saying to you to try and be careful. Likewise, in the email she sends she does nothing but wish you well and apologize and admit she was wrong.

Like I've said many times before, I don't blame her for not leaping right up and joining Shepard right on the spot. You expect her to get over the shock of seeing you alive, the PTSD associated with your death, the two years of grief and slow recovery and the fact that you are now working for a terrorist organiziation within five minutes?
Not to mention, leaving active duty to go join a group directly opposed to the group you have sworn loyalty to is what one can technically call 'treason'. Something that can be punishable by death.

Finally if you talk to Anderson you find out from him that by sending the report on Horizon Ashley actually confirmed the story about the Collectors as true. He also mentions that she's been trying to link the Collectors to the Reapers with evidence but hasn't been able to find any.


As for her thinking Cerberus is the devil, that's crap.


Actually if you serve the Alliance, you pretty much have every reason to consider Cerberus 'the Devil'.

Cerberus have been considered an enemy of the Alliance and the Council for quite some time now. Ever since they went rogue and started doing experiments against Alliance protocols without Alliance permission.

They have attacked Alliance Ships and stolen dark matter, they've killed entire platoons of Alliance soldiers and raided Alliance outposts. They've killed Admirals, they've assassinated high ranking officers within the Alliance as well as quite a few political figure so as to replace them with people who follow a more 'Cerberus approved' conduct.
Also let's not forget the sick experiments. Oh man Cerberus do a lot of those, often times to humans.

And this has been going on for a considerable amount of time. Point is, if you are Alliance.... with all that history behind you, you have every reason not to trust Cerberus.


Talis people where slaughtered by Cerberusa ship exploded witch to a Quarian must be like the worst form of terrorism. She joined me without a moment of hesitation that's what matters.


What happened on the Migrant Fleet was tragic, and of course Quarians now have every reason to distrust Cerberus. But then as I pointed out above, so to do Alliance soldiers.
I mean if blowing up a ship is bad for Quarians, what does dead Admirals, illegal experimentation and attacks on outposts (not to mention feeding people to thresher maws) mean to the Alliance?
Seriously, don't you dare try to argue that Tali has more of a reason to dislike Cerberus than Ashley does. They both have equally valid reasons.

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V-rex wrote...
You don't look a gift horse in the mouth after all.


Not if you're from Troy, lol.  For me personally, on my recent carryover run, I stayed loyal to Ash, but it was hard choosing between that and Tali. 

I'd always liked Tali, and I was so hurt by the way Ash treated me on Horizon that on my first runthrough I romanced Tali without any hesitation when the option arose. 

While I still like Tali a lot, and the fact that she was there on the Normandy was very tempting, plus the fact that she was willing to come with me despite her mistrust of Cerberus got her major points in my book, by the time I did my carryover run I was able to understand why Ash felt the way she did in ME2, and while what she said still stung a bit, one of the things I've always admired about her is her willingness to speak her mind bluntly and without hesitation.

I could go on about why I love Ash so much, and Tali does share some of those qualities IMO, but Ash is my Shepard's one true love.

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Even if there reasons are equal (witch there not) tali still stood with me where Ashley did not

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Meh. It takes a strong man to stay loyal and not going around sleeping with your crewmembers that practically throw their horny selves at you. Especially when some are quite obvious in that they want to shag Shepard. *Cough*Tali*Cough*.

With that said I stayed loyal because Killables are irrelevant outside plot armor that saves them ala VS.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Meh. It takes a strong man to stay loyal and not going around sleeping with your crewmembers that practically throw their horny selves at you. Especially when some are quite obvious in that they want to shag Shepard. *Cough*Tali*Cough*.

With that said I stayed loyal because Killables are irrelevant outside plot armor that saves them ala VS.


Never going to give up, huh?

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All I see in this thread is the reason Miranda wore the clothes she did.

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I like Ashley because she is tough as nails and honest, I have no regrets.

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Catalyst38 wrote...

Even if there reasons are equal (witch there not) tali still stood with me where Ashley did not


Couple of points here:

1. How can a long history of terrorist attack on colonies, assassinations of admirals, deaths of whole platoons, attacks on outposts, experimentation of captives and high ranking political assassination NOT be considered equal to one isolated disasterous incident?
I said equal to avoid causing conflict, if you ask me Alliance have MORE reason to distrust Cerberus than the Quarians. One disaster is pretty bad, but it's not as bad as quite a few years of persistent attacks.

2. This is a witch:
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The word you are looking for is 'Which'.
I'm sorry if I came across as rude, but I've known the right way to spell 'which' in the context appropriate since I was four years old.
Also not 'there' because 'there' is a location. You are thinking of 'They're' as in 'they are'.

3. Like I said, Ashley was a high ranking Operations Chief serving in the Alliance and was currently in active duty. Leaving all her responsibilities at the drop of the hat is an offence punishable by court marshal. Leaving to join an army considered the enemy of the army she currently serves can be punishable by excecution.
It's not like she can just come and go as she pleases, if military protocols worked like that we would have all died of a nuclear holocaust a loooooong time ago.
Besides even if she could just up and leave without punishment or without severe consequences, there still raises the point that Ashley is an Alliance loyalist. It's in her blood after all, her family has been in the Alliance almost for as long as there has been an Alliance. To her being part of the Alliance is her life.

Modifié par V-rex, 15 avril 2011 - 03:52 .


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NoxNoctum wrote...

I keep seeing people saying Miranda's not hot. Are you people nuts? I mean seriously...

The actress she's based on is pretty too (though blonde which is automatic negative points for me :D):


While the lovely Yvonne is definitely a 10 in both her looks and physique, and Miranda also has a 10 for her body, her face is like a 4 -- if I'm being incredibly generous. It's hard to get people's faces right, and we're way deep in the uncanny valley with Miranda.

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Yvonne is hot. Miranda however, is not. Her face was just scary sometimes. I'm not sure what annoyed me more - how weird her ass looked or how the camera shoved it in your face every time you spoke to her.

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From what I've seen of the screenshot of Ashley and zooming in on it, it looks like they updated her with newer graphics and changed her hair so she looks better now. I did find that she looked a bit odd in ME1 and ME2 with her old graphics.

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heres who ashley is based off of http://images3.wikia...-mila-kunis.jpg

http://www.himho.com.../Mila-Kunis.jpg

ashley is no slouch

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Okay, so...

1. You can talk to Ashley to make her see the error of her xenophobic ways, just like you can convince Kaiden to be -more- xenophobic.
2. So... You feel bad about cheating on Ashley, because she suddenly seems to have bigger breasts than before, and because she let her hair down? <_<

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NoxNoctum wrote...

I keep seeing people saying Miranda's not hot. Are you people nuts? I mean seriously...

The actress she's based on is pretty too (though blonde which is automatic negative points for me :D):

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Yvonne is gorgeous in real life. But something was lost along the way to her digital transition. Miranda's face just ends up looking too wide, her nose looks squashed, her forehead looks huge and those buck teeth BioWare stuck in there don't do her any favors either...

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Honestly don't see what the big deal is.  Looked at my GI today and saw the picture of her.  The hair is nice, but the face has a lot of manly looking features so to me she didn't look that attractive.

Anyway, all hype aside, I never really liked her to begin with because everytime she talked she reminded me of Meg from Family Guy and I was always waiting for something comically horrible to happen to her.

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While I'm not particularly drawn to this kind of discussion (I'm not a "THAT'S HAWT"-kind of guy), I'm just wondering... What on earth is manly about her face...?

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Catalyst38 wrote...

Even if there reasons are equal (witch there not) tali still stood with me where Ashley did not


With my Shep being loyal to the Alliance and someone who fought against Cerberus in ME:1, I suppose I can understand where Ashley would act in such a way to see him now working with the same group that was once tried to kill him and his crew.  With her being somewhat of a "hot-head" anyways, it makes sense that she wouldn't know what to think of the situation.

If you remember though, she does apologize in an email later and quotes yet, another poem.

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I really don't care about her appearance. Though the character suffered considerably from poor oversight decisions and even worse writing at times I never truly hated her.

However, I did feel a slight measure of satisfaction in cheating on her for Tali in that single playthrough. Something about dumping her for an alien seems so vindictive. Then I replayed ME1 so that I had no romance.

And no, I don't really think I'll romance her in ME3 unless she changes or the devs do something novel with her character. As far as I'm concerned, Tali, Liara, and *fingers crossed* Samara are just fine.

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First I wanted to applaud v-Rex vain attempt to belittle me and make himself feel superior.

That being said I have never read her message she sends me. My feelings are to hurt from the fight on horizon. My shep forgive her, Also the only negative thing she says about Cerberus is that they have a reputation of being extremists. So I still think she has little reason to behave the way she did to me. Although I will admit I can't expect her to just drop everything on the spot for me.

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Catalyst38 wrote...

First I wanted to applaud v-Rex vain attempt to belittle me and make himself feel superior.

That being said I have never read her message she sends me. My feelings are to hurt from the fight on horizon. My shep forgive her, Also the only negative thing she says about Cerberus is that they have a reputation of being extremists. So I still think she has little reason to behave the way she did to me. Although I will admit I can't expect her to just drop everything on the spot for me.

In all honesty, you have to bear in mind that Cerberus experimented on live subjects, assassinated Admiral Kohaku, etc... They're a rogue alliance cell, and thus traitors. According to Ashley's viewpoint, they're the worst kind of scum.

And all of a sudden, her best friend/lover/commander/whatever turns out to be working for them. She was shocked.

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I can see that

But you can't downplay the importents of ships and family to talis people. I mean they blue up a ship that would be the equvalit of blowing up like Texas to us. Yet she saw past that and helped me. Maybe I'll read that email from her( I might understand ash better now but I still think I'll stay with tali