Should I do it? Is it good or bad?
Toughening Alistair?
Débuté par
ilikecookiesalot
, avril 09 2011 06:05
#1
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 06:05
#2
Posté 09 avril 2011 - 01:40
It depends. Are you playing a male or a female warden? Do you want to be king? Do you want him to be king?
Some people think hardening him should be done no matter what, but this can get in the way of the warden's ambitions if he wants to be king or if s/he wants to be the true power behind the throne. It's more difficult for a female warden who wants to marry him for political reasons to get him to agree if he's not hardened (if he's in love, it's an autopass, however -- if he's hostile, he has to be hardened, anything else, just a slightly more difficult persuade check).
Some people think hardening him should be done no matter what, but this can get in the way of the warden's ambitions if he wants to be king or if s/he wants to be the true power behind the throne. It's more difficult for a female warden who wants to marry him for political reasons to get him to agree if he's not hardened (if he's in love, it's an autopass, however -- if he's hostile, he has to be hardened, anything else, just a slightly more difficult persuade check).
#3
Posté 10 avril 2011 - 10:33
My character is a female warden whom he is in love with. I'm guessing it would be best not to harden him then. I decided not to harden Lelianna also because I don't see what I would gain out of it other than a slightly malicious character.
#4
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 11:09
If you're going to make him king, you probably want to harden him.
And hardening Leliana does not make her malicious.
And hardening Leliana does not make her malicious.
#5
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 02:58
Also if your female character wants to drag Alistair into a threesome with another woman for some reason then you should harden him.
#6
Posté 11 avril 2011 - 03:40
If your character cares about him being able to stand up for himself and being willing to consider his own happiness, you should harden him. It doesn't make him a jerk or anything. He's still the same guy, and he still puts duty first when left to his own devices. You're basically telling him that he has to look out for his interests, because no one is going to do that for him--people put themselves first.ilikecookiesalot wrote...
My character is a female warden whom he is in love with. I'm guessing it would be best not to harden him then. I decided not to harden Lelianna also because I don't see what I would gain out of it other than a slightly malicious character.
With Leliana, the choice is more of a choice between telling her to accept the person she was in the past and embrace it, or that change is possible if she wants it. With Alistair it's about self-sufficiency and scope of motivation.
Modifié par errant_knight, 11 avril 2011 - 03:43 .
#7
Posté 12 avril 2011 - 03:28
If you want to keep him a Warden it probably doesn't matter. Hardened Ali is a bit more selfish/less pliant but also better adjusted/less neurotic and probably happier overall. If you want him to be king you should harden him otherwise he'll be miserable and you will too! Especially if you are not a Cousie. Trust me.
#8
Posté 12 avril 2011 - 07:45
Speaking from the perspective of a guy; I preferred hardened Alistair as a companion compared to normal Alistair. Hardened Alistair is much easier to convince to take the throne, and would make a stronger leader in my opinion, as the Warden isn't going to be there to guide him forever.
Also I always harden Leliana...all that chantry stuff isn't why I like her as a character, its her background as a mysterious bard. The choice is basically a shift in focus on her character, with you choosing whether the Chantry or her Bard past defines her as a character.
Also I always harden Leliana...all that chantry stuff isn't why I like her as a character, its her background as a mysterious bard. The choice is basically a shift in focus on her character, with you choosing whether the Chantry or her Bard past defines her as a character.





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