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The Haunting of the HAwke Estate?


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I don't know what happen there, my message didn't show up. Ok in Act 3 Sanders keeps making references to a "scary lady". I was wondering if anyone else thinks that the Hawke Estate is haunted; moreover, if it is then does anyone have any further information on this? Is it Hawke's mother? Or is Kirkwall just the most F-ed up city in that fantasy world? LOL

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Sandal references the scary lady laughing at him. This has some thinking possibly Flemeth. All theories on our parts. His prophecy is more scary.

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KJandrew

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It's Flemeth watching him in his dreams i think

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I kind of thought he meant Isabela.

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TJPags wrote...

I kind of thought he meant Isabela.

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Isbela is only scary in an "I hope this rash is nothing serious..." way.

Not really sure who Sandal saw.  None of the possibilities make much sense.  Leandra isn't scary, nor is her laugh.  Flemeth is, but why would Flemeth be randomly appearing in Hawke's house to laugh at mentally challenged dwarves?  It can't be Bethany because she's alive a lot of the time.  Hmm.  Here's an off the wall one.  Since the Veil is so thin in Kirkwall and Sandal is...  well we don't know what Sandal is, is it possible he just saw a desire demon that's in the Fade?  It might just be another reference to Kirkwall's messed up veil and we're reading too much into it.

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Rifneno wrote...

TJPags wrote...

I kind of thought he meant Isabela.

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Isbela is only scary in an "I hope this rash is nothing serious..." way.

Not really sure who Sandal saw.  None of the possibilities make much sense.  Leandra isn't scary, nor is her laugh.  Flemeth is, but why would Flemeth be randomly appearing in Hawke's house to laugh at mentally challenged dwarves?  It can't be Bethany because she's alive a lot of the time.  Hmm.  Here's an off the wall one.  Since the Veil is so thin in Kirkwall and Sandal is...  well we don't know what Sandal is, is it possible he just saw a desire demon that's in the Fade?  It might just be another reference to Kirkwall's messed up veil and we're reading too much into it.


I like the Veil idea, makes most sense to me. *nods*

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I thought maybe Flemeth but then.. she kinda just flew off in the distance :) btw, what prophecy?

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The Veil being thin in Kirkwall makes more sense for it to just be some weird ghost/demon. The jump from "scary lady" to "Flemeth" is a bit too much for me to make.

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Sandal is talking nonsense.
Everything he says has no meaning whatsoever.
I will maintain this view until the writers force the notion that Sandal is a super god down our throats, but we have a year at least for that.

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I've NEVER managed to get the scary lady dialogue out of Sandal. I HAVE heard his prophecy, but it's been officially confirmed that the prophecy only has a 1/100 chance of being heard. Which is why I give it some credence, because it seems like something subtle put in that a player only has a rare chance of hearing. So it will be a "Sandal totally talked about this!" later for players who heard it, but it doesn't harm you to not hear it. Does anyone know where there's a youtube clip of Sandal talking about the scary lady? I'd like to hear it since apparently, I'm a scary enough lady in all my playthroughs that no others sneak in. ;)

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Oneiropolos wrote...

I've NEVER managed to get the scary lady dialogue out of Sandal. I HAVE heard his prophecy, but it's been officially confirmed that the prophecy only has a 1/100 chance of being heard. Which is why I give it some credence, because it seems like something subtle put in that a player only has a rare chance of hearing. So it will be a "Sandal totally talked about this!" later for players who heard it, but it doesn't harm you to not hear it. Does anyone know where there's a youtube clip of Sandal talking about the scary lady? I'd like to hear it since apparently, I'm a scary enough lady in all my playthroughs that no others sneak in. ;)


Found this


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Wonder whats in mom's room.

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Rifneno

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Bratinov wrote...

Wonder whats in mom's room.


I kept thinking I missed a side quest because something had to require you to go in there... then I FINALLY noticed that there's no room behind the door on the minimap.  :(

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AkaTenar wrote...

Oneiropolos wrote...

I've NEVER managed to get the scary lady dialogue out of Sandal. I HAVE heard his prophecy, but it's been officially confirmed that the prophecy only has a 1/100 chance of being heard. Which is why I give it some credence, because it seems like something subtle put in that a player only has a rare chance of hearing. So it will be a "Sandal totally talked about this!" later for players who heard it, but it doesn't harm you to not hear it. Does anyone know where there's a youtube clip of Sandal talking about the scary lady? I'd like to hear it since apparently, I'm a scary enough lady in all my playthroughs that no others sneak in. ;)


Found this


Thank you very much. It is interesting, because Sandal has never actually lied to us before that we know of. He's not good at explaining things well when ti comes to ohw he kills rooms full of darkspawn and freezes an ogre... but he doesn't lie. It's possible there's an explanation for it, but I doubt it's "He's not really seeing anything." like his father wants to think. 

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I suppose that Leandra would be scary if Quentin's blood magic had some effects on he soul. There was the whole demon named "Posession of Leandra" thing. Maybe in a future DLC you'll have to "free" Leandra's spirit from a demon or something.

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I had assumed Flemmeth, but my friend first thought it was actually Meredith.
I thought he was wrong, but then he pointed out a very big fact.

She had a massive flippin' death sword with scary magics.

So yeah, it COULD'VE been Meredith, but I imagine more would've been made of it (but then we get the 'how much control did she really have?' discussion.)

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does that happen after or before hawke's mom dies? If the former, I can only assume that he might be referring to Leandra.

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Oneiropolos wrote...

Thank you very much. It is interesting, because Sandal has never actually lied to us before that we know of. He's not good at explaining things well when ti comes to ohw he kills rooms full of darkspawn and freezes an ogre... but he doesn't lie. It's possible there's an explanation for it, but I doubt it's "He's not really seeing anything." like his father wants to think. 


He just got into Isabela's "stash."  Mystery over, sorry guys.

Necrosis103 wrote...

I had assumed Flemmeth, but my friend first thought it was actually Meredith.
I thought he was wrong, but then he pointed out a very big fact.

She had a massive flippin' death sword with scary magics.

So yeah, it COULD'VE been Meredith, but I imagine more would've been made of it (but then we get the 'how much control did she really have?' discussion.)


Meredith certainly qualifies as scary.  I wouldn't verify the "woman" part on a drunken bet, so I'll take your word on it.  But why would she be creeping around Hawke's mansion in the middle of the night?  And the way they talk, it sounds like Bo--er, whatever the other dorf's name is, was there too and couldn't see whatever Sandal was seeing.

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Rifneno wrote...

  I wouldn't verify the "woman" part on a drunken bet, so I'll take your word on it. 


I would, but I like a lady who can and might kill me.

Don't judge.

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PantheraOnca wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

  I wouldn't verify the "woman" part on a drunken bet, so I'll take your word on it. 


I would, but I like a lady who can and might kill me.

Don't judge.


No need to judge.  Turns out that's a pretty self-correcting policy.

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Flemeth seems the most likely to me, if only because the game's been hinting at SOMETHING with her since...well, the first game. I like the Veil idea, too.

My bet is that it's foreshadowing for what might happen in Dragon Age 3. I don't think we'll see DLC for it.

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The Angry One wrote...

Sandal is talking nonsense.
Everything he says has no meaning whatsoever.
I will maintain this view until the writers force the notion that Sandal is a super god down our throats, but we have a year at least for that.


Agreed.