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[GenericPlayer2]

I was curious as to why mages that are made tranquil continue to be kept at the circle. If they are incapable of magic, should they not have the option to return to their families or leave? The tranquil appear to be very docile - I don't see why they cannot be released into the care of their families. Is there anything in the DA lore that explains this? 

[The Angry One]

Tranquil serve as extremely talented enchanters and runecrafters due to their single-mindedness and ability to handle Lyrium.
The Chantry makes a lot of money from the circle's enchanting and runecrafting industry.

So guess why they keep them..

[Amagoi]

Plus, would you really want you little brother back when he's all Tranquilized? They are not the best people for conversation.

[GenericPlayer2]

Oh I understood that they used them as slave labor, I was wondering if there was another reason - maybe something to do with Chantry law.

As for the notion that some families would not want them back - that could be true. But take the De Launcets, would they want Emile tranquil and staying at home or non-tranquil and hanging out at the Anged-man!

Modifié par GenericPlayer2, 09 avril 2011 - 08:34 .

[PPR223]

Amagoi wrote...

Plus, would you really want you little brother back when he's all Tranquilized? They are not the best people for conversation.

Their probably quite good servants though, doubt you will get much complaining.

Modifié par PPR223, 09 avril 2011 - 08:32 .

[The Angry One]

There's also the fact that most mages are sent to the circle at a very young age and don't remember them and if Jowan is anything to go by many families wouldn't want them back anyway (magic powers or not they're still a symbol of the "curse" and an embarassment).
Plus, a Tranquil won't have any sentimentality so would most likely decide to stay where it's relatively comfortable and familiar.

Modifié par The Angry One, 09 avril 2011 - 08:34 .

[hoorayforicecream]

Many tranquil actually choose to stay at the circle, since they understand that it's difficult for them out in society. As a result, they stay where they are relatively cared for and lead a reasonably good life.

[Blacklash93]

Could Tranquil still use blood magic?

They're cut off from mana, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have no magic left in them.

[The Angry One]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Could Tranquil still use blood magic?

They're cut off from mana, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they have no magic left in them.

They're cut off from the fade. It doesn't matter what the power source is.

[Oneiropolos]

David Gaider did address that while tranquility is morally gray (to put it mildly), they are not slaves and they do have a semblance of free will. They just are preoccupied with 'logic' to an extent that freaks most normal people out. Logically, they are safe within the circle, they have a role there, and most do not have anywhere to go. However, he clarified that they ARE free to leave and I presume if a family did want their tranquil family member back, they could do so. Karl is actually the example a lot of people point to for how clearly things are horrible. And they're right. But Karl made what he saw was a logical choice. He used his own knowledge of Anders behavior and believed that Anders needed to be made tranquil... presumably because he also logically came to the conclusion that he did know Anders too well and Anders was a danger. Considering Anders ends up losing himself to Vengeance and killing people...I'm not saying Anders should have been made tranquil, I'm just saying Karl might not have been all wrong.

[GenericPlayer2]

Thanks for clearing that up. I do hope in the future we see a demonstration of a tranquil's free will. Right now they just seem way too docile and open to suggestion. If you look at other examples of logic in popular culture, such as Spok - you don't see that level of docility and passivity. Its like the tranquil don't really care about anything.

[Oneiropolos]

Agreed. I'd actually really love an example of a tranquil living with a family member who is willing to accept and love them even as a tranquil. Getting a chance to see more of that free will in action by a tranquil would be fascinating to me. It seems to be the story most obviously left out by an NPC right now.

[The Angry One]

They could've done that with Arianni and Feynriel if he gets tranquilled.
But instead she kills herself and he becomes a robot spouting Templar propaganda. <_<

[Elessara]

There's a question though. Due to Anders connection to Justice/Vengeance ... can he be made Tranquil? What would happen to Justice if he was? I'm unsure how much of a connection Justice has with the Fade but with how he affected Karl - I just wonder how that would work.

Also in DAO, Wynne says that any time someone's spirit leaves their body whether to sleep or to die their spirit goes to the Fade. What happens to the Tranquil? As I understand it the Tranquil are cut off from the Fade entirely - unless I'm wrong about that.

Modifié par Elessara, 10 avril 2011 - 12:20 .

[Sarielle]

Elessara wrote...

There's a question though. Due to Anders connection to Justice/Vengeance ... can he be made Tranquil? What would happen to Justice if he was? I'm unsure how much of a connection Justice has with the Fade but with out he affected Karl - I just wonder how that would work.

Also in DAO, Wynne says that any time someone's spirit leaves their body whether to sleep or to die their spirit goes to the Fade. What happens to the Tranquil? As I understand it the Tranquil are cut off from the Fade entirely - unless I'm wrong about that.

I'm going to pull one out of my bum and say that Anders (the actual human part) would become like any other Tranquil, and Justice/Vengeance would be driven out -- and either have to take on another host, or "die."

[Johun]

I'd be willing to bet Meredith isn't the only Knight Commander who uses the Tranquil as examples to other mages.
They apparently also make for great assistants.

The Angry One wrote...

They could've done that with Arianni and Feynriel if he gets tranquilled.
But instead she kills herself and he becomes a robot spouting Templar propaganda. <_<

Arianni kills herself? Oh jeeze, I don't think I even went to check up on her after I euthanized Feynriel on my first playthrough.

[The Angry One]

Thrask will tell you that Arianni took poison at some point afterwards.