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Where was Morrigan in Dragon Age 2??


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Wee Joe Green

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So what happened to Morrigan's supposed appearance in DA2??  I think many of us were expecting she would be in it - even if just in fleeting, a mention of what might have happened to her.

When I completed Dragon Age 2 and they left it open for a cliffhanger (even after Morrigan's DLC, more so if anything) this was one of the main things I was excited about for Dragon Age 2 and many people speculated for hours over what the involvement would be and how her child with the soul of the archdemon would turn out.  This is not something to just leave a game on and never come back to or at least explain!  Can we expect then that this will be part of Dragon Age 3?

I hope like the Morrigan example, DA2 doesn't turn out to be the same, with setting up the end on a completely unfinished cliffhanger and then not going on to properly explain the events.

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Btw I can't believe this hasn't been talked about yet? I've searched the forums and elsewhere and as far as I can tell no-one has went on to discuss this.

This was one of the main talking points at the end of Origins and one of the big expectations for DA2 and, nothing...

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Oh and what about Mike Laidlaw's comment when talking about the end of Origins, Dragon Age 2 and what to expect?

He stated in an interview:
"Q - Will we see any characters from origins in Dragon Age II?
"We are certainly not done with Morrigan's story" hints lead designer Mike Laidlaw.
"I can say that."

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I don't recall any official comment about Morrigan supposedly being in DA2. Quite the opposite - Warden's and/or Morrigan's story would continue in some later sequel.

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No, I remember a while back that it was said Morrigan wouldn't have a role in DA2, but her story wasn't over yet meaning she'd be back at a later date. I don't have links/quotes, sorry.

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Oh well if that was the case and Morrigan's story was still continued, just not at this point, then that would be very good to see. I'd be very happy with that. I don't see why, if they were going to though, they wouldn't just do it in the direct sequel. Why wait until two games into the future to tie up those loose ends? Its not as if it's a book which can invariably be released quicker and completed faster. It could be another couple of years, on top of the length of time from Origins, until we see Dragon Age 3 and finally get an answer.

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Its more so because of how the timeline works as to why they're doing the story this way. (DAO+DAA happening concurrently with DA2).
It would be more silly if you had DA2 following the wardens story then going back and playing Hawkes.
To me it looks like we're going to hit a point where the two games merge (probably with Hawke being the lead) and we'll have a mix of companions from both + new ones.


So they aren't really delaying Morrigans story to interject Hawkes, i think its more so like they're giving you the other part of the story before they do the end.

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Flemeth kinda mentions her a little and we are going to see some action about this Thedas in Brink of war and the involvement of Morrigan and Flemeth possibly our Warden+ Hawke.

And there is still possibility of DLC for DA2 ( hoping for something epic like Lair of the Shadow Broker on ME 2 ) but I won't keep my hopes up that much :P

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It certainly would have been nice to see a Morrigan cameo and maybe with her kid too(if you took that route). How Morrigan's kid turned out is one of the things I'm most curious about in DA and I was really hoping they would touch on it in DA2. But alas, they will likely just milk it with more DLC.

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Rolling around in the hay with my Warden, I like to assume. He has an insatiable appetite, after all. =P

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Gah - the best thing about DA2 was that she wasn't in it. Finding out she and the stupid retcon baby had no part in the game was the deciding factor for me in buying DA2.

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From what I remember the idea was that DA2 was setting up for Morrigan to come back in DA3. I think they confirmed she wouldn't show up in DA2 before it even came out.

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Where was Oghren?

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Femaleficar wrote...

Where was Oghren?


Drunk in a tavern..

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All of the concept art was for Flemeth not Morrigan.

I never expected to see Morrigan in DA2, nothing led me to believe that I would see her lol.
Bioware is probably working on DLCs as we speak, and you remember how many DLCs came out for Origins? Perhaps we can expect that many for DA2 :).

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You know where I'd go if I were an apostate carrying a child with the soul of an archdemon?

A city packed with Templars! Yeah. Because I'm an idiot.

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xedgorex wrote...

Its more so because of how the timeline works as to why they're doing the story this way. (DAO+DAA happening concurrently with DA2).
It would be more silly if you had DA2 following the wardens story then going back and playing Hawkes.
To me it looks like we're going to hit a point where the two games merge (probably with Hawke being the lead) and we'll have a mix of companions from both + new ones.


So they aren't really delaying Morrigans story to interject Hawkes, i think its more so like they're giving you the other part of the story before they do the end.


I agree with you in retrospect.  I am beginning to see now their intentions (hopefully) or starting a new direction for war among the nations, faiths and magic in order to merge what has been narrowly crafted in the storytelling of DA2 with the events of the Warden's story.

Following a discussion with Mike Laidlaw recently on DA3 (I speak of it elsewhere in a thread "Dragon Age 2 Upcoming DLC. Hawke story continues.") i'm led to believe however that there's a good chance Hawke's story will be wound up through DLC and expansions similar to the Warden's and it's likely a new character will be brought in for the lead - assuming a mass outpouring from the fans doesn't make them change their mind.

I think DA3 could be set to be truly epic and more so than just a finale as part of a trilogy.  This is strongly hinted at in a few posts by a bioware lead writer elsewhere.  I believe their intention at this point is to create a string of games all with interweaving narratives, because of course no games company wants to let go of something promising which is selling well.  Let's just hope it continues to get the following and figures it deserves.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

You know where I'd go if I were an apostate carrying a child with the soul of an archdemon?

A city packed with Templars! Yeah. Because I'm an idiot.


Sometimes the best place to hide is in the last place they'd expect you.  Besides, Morrigan can fend for herself pretty well...and i'm sure this child could lend a hand too. Posted Image

I'm so intrigued to find out how this child will be.  I believe quite strongly that he(she?) could be the main character of the third dragon age, assuming this is when Morrigan's story and involvement is revealed.

There was all the speculation of Hawke being the child for DA2 - even though that was impossible in terms of timescales.  But now that the suspicion has been dropped, bringing the child (now an adolescent i'd imagine) could work very well and escape peoples attention somewhat.  Furthermore, as we don't know whether it was a boy/girl, this would give us the opportunity to play as either sex in the game.

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Morrigan's story WAS mentioned. Right at the beining, Flemeth mentions her daughter, and a little bit later when you bring the locket to the mountain she again talks of her and how "if I know my morrigan".

She's mentioned, as is the implied appointment of Morrigan sending the Warden to kill Flemeth.

Ya'll are way to picky.


Also - morrigan states its a boy.. not that it couldn't be ret-conned ;p

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Heidenreich wrote...

Morrigan's story WAS mentioned. Right at the beining, Flemeth mentions her daughter, and a little bit later when you bring the locket to the mountain she again talks of her and how "if I know my morrigan".

She's mentioned, as is the implied appointment of Morrigan sending the Warden to kill Flemeth.

Ya'll are way to picky.


Also - morrigan states its a boy.. not that it couldn't be ret-conned ;p


Well...that was hardly her inclusion in the game it was just a fleeting mention to her existence, not anything that has happened to her since the events of Origins.  I now agree though and understand why she was not in DA2, provided she does appear in future games.  It just appeared at first thought and before I knew of future intentions, that her story had been forgotten about.

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Heidenreich wrote...

Morrigan's story WAS mentioned. Right at the beining, Flemeth mentions her daughter, and a little bit later when you bring the locket to the mountain she again talks of her and how "if I know my morrigan".

She's mentioned, as is the implied appointment of Morrigan sending the Warden to kill Flemeth.


My understanding of the ressurection on Sundermount was that it took place *after* the Warden "killed" Flemeth at Morrigan's behest... Particularly since by Act I, when you finally deliver the amulet, the Blight is said to be over.  As to Flemeth's "appointment," well, who knows what powerful beings do when they're not "in-game..." lol.

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To einherjar81, this is correct, when you resurrected Flemeth this had taken place after the events of Origins in which you and Morrigan killed her. This is why she mentions the fact that "if I know my Morrigan" she may already have tried to kill me etc.

I liked the fact she makes light comment on the fact that she need not be confined by one life in one body at one time. An interesting concept. :D

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I think the reason why Morigan didn't appear in DA2 because Claudia Black (The VA) was on vacation or busy doing a movie. xp

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Haha thanks for this shumworld, until now I never realised Claudia Black was the voice for Morrigan! I don't know how I missed it now?

Modifié par Wee Joe Green, 10 avril 2011 - 10:59 .


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She was the demon with which Merrill made the deal. She's stuck in the eluvian because the rest of them are broken.

[Yes, I remember the Marethari scenes. It was a joke.]