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[Almostfaceman]

Again, this is bogus - just click on Chris Priestly at the bottom of the forum and you'll see he hasn't posted anything in the last day here in these particular forums.

[thatguy212]

found the picture in a thread on 4chan so thats probably where it came from

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Who or what is Greybox?

Just one of the BSN's more entertaining trolls who posts a thread at least once a week about how Tali will inevitably betray Shepard.

I say Tali would make an excellent traitor because in ME1 there is some foreshadowing about where her true loyalties lie. She asks Wrex how he can stand to fight against his own people, saying she could never imagine it. She also says that quarians are "expected to be loyal, even when it is difficult."

We know from Ascension that the quarians want to find a Reaper and use it to control the geth.

So it isn't inconcievable that if the quarians found themselves in a position in which they must oppose Shepard that Tali wouldn't join them, albeit reluctantly.

Yeah, but it still seems to be a bit far-fetched.

[Almostfaceman]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Almostfaceman wrote...

Again, this is bogus - just click on Chris Priestly at the bottom of the forum and you'll see he hasn't posted anything in the last day here in these particular forums.

Irrelevant because Tali would still make for an awesome traitor.

We also will find out she sold the schematics for the original Normandy to a third party, cheating the Alliance out of tens of billions of credits.

It's not irrelevent to the topic at all, lol.  I wasn't responding to your posts.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Saphra Deden wrote...

We know from Ascension that the quarians want to find a Reaper and use it to control the geth.

That's a bit of a misleading way to put it--they wanted to find out about whatever unknown AI technology Kahlee Sanders was involved with so that they could find out if there was any applicable information they could use against the geth. Neither they (nor Kahlee) knew anything about the Reapers or the specifics of what Dr. Qian had uncovered at the time.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

How so? She might love and respect Shepard, but that isn't all she is. Tali has a duty to her people first and foremost. I think it is even more farfetched that she would be willing to make war on them.

"Oh sure, I'm going to help my people try to hijack a Reaper so we can mind-control the geth because it's such a fabulously good idea..."

Wrong-o.  She'd oppose that decision, and she'd go back to the fleet to try to make it stop so she could save her people.  That gives her an excuse to leave, but it would not make her a traitor.

Anyway, this image was found on 4chan, so we all know it's BS.

[Gentleman Moogle]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Yeah, but it still seems to be a bit far-fetched.

How so? She might love and respect Shepard, but that isn't all she is. Tali has a duty to her people first and foremost. I think it is even more farfetched that she would be willing to make war on them.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight...
So, she helps her people...
By betraying the one man who has the best shot of rallying the galaxy against the reapers...
During a reaper invasion...
While running from reapers...
who are bent on destroying all life in the galaxy...
which would include Quarians...
After watching a Reaper blow up earth. 
...
Nope, you're right. makes total sense. I can't believe I didn't see it. 

[naledgeborn]

If this is true then 
If not, then <_<

[Jzadek72]

Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Reasons it's bullsh*t:

1. Garrus was only recently confirmed as squaddie by Game Informer, two days ago.

2. Do you really, with all the hype that has been going on in the past two days, REALLY think a message like that would have landed and we haven't heard anything about it until now?

3. We're alive.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

...and when she couldn't convince them she'd fall in line. That is what loyalty is all about. Sometimes you have to suck it up and do things you don't agree with or think are a good idea.

Assuming the quarians really try something that stupid in the first place.

I mean, I know they're pretty thick, but that's something that'd be so stupid even TIM wouldn't try it.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Nathan Redgrave wrote...

That's a bit of a misleading way to put it--they wanted to find out about whatever unknown AI technology Kahlee Sanders was involved with so that they could find out if there was any applicable information they could use against the geth. Neither they (nor Kahlee) knew anything about the Reapers or the specifics of what Dr. Qian had uncovered at the time.

They knew about the Reapers. Yes, because the Migrant Fleet is going to see the uncensored mission reports of an incident they were several thousand lightyears away from at the time.

They may have known about Sovereign enough to have drawn that connection, but no way in hell would they have known about the Reapers and thought "Hey, let's ally ourselves with an even worse army of AI monstrosities that want us dead! That's the path to victory!"

They were assessing their options, nothing more. By the time ME2 rolls around, they're exploring other avenues of geth control. Admiral Xen even taunts Shepard with an e-mail confirming that she's picking up where Rael'Zorah left off. That's going to be the big thing with the Quarians in ME3, mark my words--not some grasping-at-straws scheme to find another Sovereign.

Modifié par Nathan Redgrave, 10 avril 2011 - 12:56 .

[Hathur]

mrsph wrote...

 4.) Preistly would be fired in seconds if he leaked anything about Mass Effect 3.

This.

Do you think they're just going to blurt stuff like that out on the forum? They're going to use each and every tiny bit of info about ME3 to help market the game prior to launch... I.e. Game informer article.

If it didn't come from a reputable gaming magazine / news site with quotes / statements from Bioware... then assume it's bull.

Also, assume any screenshots of any forum post is automatic bull as well... unless a direct link to post by a Bioware employee is seen, just ignore it.

This is internet basics 101, people.

Modifié par Hathur, 10 avril 2011 - 12:57 .

[Jzadek72]

Saphra Deden wrote...

mrsph wrote...

 4.) Preistly would be fired in seconds if he leaked anything about Mass Effect 3.

Which is pretty funny considering Bioware inevitably leaks all this **** months in advance anyway.

Eh, it's marketing. They choose when to release info carefully, plus, the quote in my sig promises a lack of spoilers, which will hopefully be a promise that's kept.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Saphra Deden wrote...

It isn't made clear in the novel if the quarians actually know what Reapers are or that they're still out there. They want to find a derelict like Sovereign, not ally with the Reaper species.

Xen could easily jumpstart her research with a Reaper or maybe that was what enabled Rael to have so much success.

Now you're grasping at straws.

Incidently, the Reapers never hacked the geth, they offered the geth something and a portion of the geth collective took them up on their offer. It's a religious impulse, not actual control. Project Overlord is much closer to what such a project would look like than Rael'Zorah's research was--that was an attempt to actually control the geth themselves, rather than rallying them around a techno-god.

Incidentally, exactly what "success" did Rael'Zorah have? That looked like a rousing failure to me.