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[Fatalmephisto]

I've been reading alot of posts around the internet the last few day's about people hating the Console version of Dragon age, and i would like to know what people think on this matter, Ive been playing the console version now for other a week and half and i cant stop playing the game. What Experince would i be missing if i had a PC that chould run DA:O?

[Denlath Vestor]

Don't know about 'hating' the console version, but the obvious drawback is console gamers don't get to benefit from the user-made content that will be coming out.



I understand the camera controls are a bit nerfed on the console due to hardware limitations, though...

[Sloth Of Doom]

Aside from clunky contols when compared to PC (the bane of most console games) the console version is basically a giant 'easy mode' that trickles enemies at you in tiny groups like an overprotective mother. Combat on the PC is usually on a much larger (and more difficult) scale.

I've played on 360 and PC, and those ae the only real differences I have noticed, aside from the obvious graphics difference and the lack of user-creatd mods for the console.

Modifié par Sloth Of Doom, 18 novembre 2009 - 05:53 .

[deathwing200]

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

[kinseeker35]

IMHO you wouldnt be missing any experiance except, getting downloadable content from players via the toolset. Other then that is prefrance which system it get played on. I personally like it on PC, but i would still play it on all the systems. They are just the same except what i ahve stated from above. Its just like Fallout 3 i have played it on all systems and the only diffrence is you can use player made mods, just offical ones. Hope this awnsers your question.

[dragero]

The toolset was a big motivation for me buying this game. After seeing what people could do with the Neverwinter Nights toolset, I know builders are going to be putting out really cool modules, and consoles will never see these.

That, and the fact that I can play the PC while my girlfriend takes over the television with her bad reality shows.

[Bluto Blutarskyx]

ive been playing it as well-



there is generally going to be "console hate" for these games because console users miss out on user made mods.



there also might be some "smug" going around because this game was basically done in the old baldur's gate style but dummed down for new users which i'm bettng mostly come from console gaming-



those people however should be ignored since they are the type who fart in the tub and bite at the bubbles.

[Seraosha]

There's also the fact that console gamers can't access forums to flame as easily as their computer brethren. Though having seen the 360 version I have no regrets over my choice. The controls appear horribly complicated and the graphics not quite as nice.

[BluesMan1956]

I think most of the people complaining about the consolve version are not console owners. Most of the complaints I see on these forums are from PC owners complaining about miscellaenous bugs, dowloaded content, or the fact that their graphic card doesn't work.



I have invested about 65 total hours on my 360 in six separate partial plathrus and I have not had any problems.

[Fatalmephisto]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Aside from clunky contols when compared to PC (the bane of most console games) the console version is basically a giant 'easy mode' that trickles enemies at you in tiny groups like an overprotective mother. Combat on the PC is usually on a much larger (and more difficult) scale.

I've played on 360 and PC, and those ae the only real differences I have noticed, aside from the obvious graphics difference and the lack of user-creatd mods for the console.

Ahh i didnt know that, i wish my PC chould run the game thats for sure, but i mean i havent had any problems so far as in the Console version, if with less enemys its still get's hard in some areas of the game, as for User content yeah that is a big drag for console owners  but maybe BIOWARE will release some of them down the road who knows.
Thanks guy's for shedding some light on this for me.

[Denlath Vestor]

deathwing200 wrote...

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

I highly doubt the difficulty was dumbed down due to the averge age of console owners. I know plenty of console-only gamers over 30 (myself NOT included). Likely it is due to the hardware limitations consoles impose on the computing power required for such a game...

[Fatalmephisto]

Denlath Vestor wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

I highly doubt the difficulty was dumbed down due to the averge age of console owners. I know plenty of console-only gamers over 30 (myself NOT included). Likely it is due to the hardware limitations consoles impose on the computing power required for such a game...

I agree, but then again i really depends on the Engine the game is running on, if you look at a game like Left 4 dead or hell even Dead rising on the 360 that can hold a crap load of enemys on the screen at once. So i dont think that is the case but maybe it is

BluesMan1956 wrote...

I think most of the people
complaining about the consolve version are not console owners. Most of
the complaints I see on these forums are from PC owners complaining
about miscellaenous bugs, dowloaded content, or the fact that their
graphic card doesn't work.

I have invested about 65 total hours
on my 360 in six separate partial plathrus and I have not had any
problems.

Agreed ill have to add up all the time i have across my 5 play throughs i think i have other 70+ hours not sure let me go and look.

Modifié par Fatalmephisto, 18 novembre 2009 - 06:05 .

[EricHVela]

Toolset. Possibly toolset-created content, too. Dunno about that. I do know you cannot install the toolset without installing the PC version first.

That's enough to put me off of the console version.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Fatalmephisto wrote...

Denlath Vestor wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

I highly doubt the difficulty was dumbed down due to the averge age of console owners. I know plenty of console-only gamers over 30 (myself NOT included). Likely it is due to the hardware limitations consoles impose on the computing power required for such a game...

I agree, but then again i really depends on the Engine the game is running on, if you look at a game like Left 4 dead or hell even Dead rising on the 360 that can hold a crap load of enemys on the screen at once. So i dont think that is the case but maybe it is

According to dev posters over on daforum the console was made easier by having less enemis at once partially due to graphical limitations and partialy due to control limitations.

[Fatalmephisto]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Fatalmephisto wrote...

Denlath Vestor wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

I highly doubt the difficulty was dumbed down due to the averge age of console owners. I know plenty of console-only gamers over 30 (myself NOT included). Likely it is due to the hardware limitations consoles impose on the computing power required for such a game...

I agree, but then again i really depends on the Engine the game is running on, if you look at a game like Left 4 dead or hell even Dead rising on the 360 that can hold a crap load of enemys on the screen at once. So i dont think that is the case but maybe it is

According to dev posters over on daforum the console was made easier by having less enemis at once partially due to graphical limitations and partialy due to control limitations.

Ahh ok thought so.

[Cammy2709]

As stated several times in this thread, The only few possible reasons for me, and rightfully most people,  disliking the console version ( which I do own because of my PCs appallingly bad processor etc.) are the horribly bad close-up textures and the lack of user-created content. Hopefully Christmas and my new "Gaming PC" cannot come sooner.

Modifié par Cammy2709, 18 novembre 2009 - 06:09 .

[I Valente I]

i think the console version is great. Obviously it's not going to be as good as the PC version. From what I've seen: It's either the PC players trashing/blaming the console version for things, or it's about graphics or controls.



Personally, the controls are fine once you get used to them, no complaints. I don't mind the graphics, they're fine, I've seen a lot wose, but I've also seen better. As for the difficulty, you could say the difficulty is "different" not necessarily easier, it's hard in its own way. I'm having a pretty good (good as in challenging) time playing through on hard, I can't wait for my nightmare playthrough. There's no need for the PC players to rub it in our faces that our computers can't run Dragon Age though, aren't we all hoping to enjoy the game? no need to try and ruin it for other people.

[Zeluna]

Because consoles SUCK period. Time to upgrade your gaming system to a real computer not a wannabe toy, which is what a console is. Spend the $400-500 for a REAL computer or laptop. For double the price you can do other things on a computer then just play games too. In essence you get what you pay for.

Spend $200 for a console and you will get a POS system that may look nice graphically but in no way can it surpass a true PC system, which is highly upgradeable and will last you from 3-6 years before you have completely replace the whole thing due to technological demands of games become too great on it.

I will never buy a console or use one. The last console I had was a Colecovision and that's cause there were no computers back in that day that didn't cost in excess of $7000 dollars.

You get what you pay for. Period

Think about the processor and storage and graphical hardware in a console. They are inferior when compared to the lowest-end PC and not upgradeable to a faster processor. I can spend a measly $100 atm and literally upgrade my processor to something as much as 10x more powerful. Try that with a console - forget it. It won't happen you have to buy a newer console completely.

Modifié par Yelina, 18 novembre 2009 - 06:18 .

[BluesMan1956]

Yelina wrote...
....

You get what you pay for. Period

Well, maybe when you have to make up the difference in monthly expenses for what your four adult kids with a combined five grandkids you will not have such a troll-like and condescending attitude toward those who cannot afford the money to purchase a PC that can run DA:O.

Plus, show me the $400 laptop that can

[GregorLightbringer]

I will never buy a console or use one. The last console I had was a Colecovision and that's cause there were no computers back in that day that didn't cost in excess of $7000 dollars.

You get what you pay for. Period

I lived during that era myself. One thing I have learned is that with a console, alot sacrifices have to be made in order to make a console game possible. For a pc, there are  some sacrifices, but it's mostly because of time constraints and whether or not the engine can do what they want. I just wish there was a way to continuously use the character beyond just the DLC. I don't even think you can use the same char in a public made module (somebody correct me if I'm wrong on this). 

To also make a point, I don't think some things will happen all because it would be unfair to the console users that the PC users would have more/better content/features. That's just my opinion 

[Zeluna]

BluesMan1956 wrote...

Yelina wrote...
....

You get what you pay for. Period

Well, maybe when you have to make up the difference in monthly expenses for what your four adult kids with a combined five grandkids you will not have such a troll-like and condescending attitude toward those who cannot afford the money to purchase a PC that can run DA:O.

Plus, show me the $400 laptop that can

I can do that for you right now. Here check this out. For 2x the buying power you can get a very nice laptop from Tigerdirect:

http://www.tigerdire...p?EdpNo=5311061

I had an advert for a $400 one from Newegg about 5 days ago. These things run Windows 7 and come with 4GB of memory. How much memory does a console have? Its laughable.

[Zeluna]

Here is a complete computer for under $500:



http://www.tigerdire...RCCODE=WEM2079C



And these entry level laptops from Lenovo cost around $400:

http://www.newegg.co...-L0F-_-34146609



These lower end PC's are still 5x faster then consoles and come with stuff like productivity apps and other things you can do on em besides play games. I get adverts from all the big online computer retailers all the time and am amazed at how cheap stuff costs nowadays. The great thing about PC's more then laptops is they are modular so you can upgrade them as you get money and want to run faster games with better graphics. Consoles are limiting.

[dj1917]

$500? That's about £300. You can't get a decent gaming set-up for that, my laptop cost £250 (recently) and isn't even close to being able to play DAO, the best it can manage is Medieval 2 Total War, and that's the best gaming set-up I could afford. A desktop wouldn't run it (decently) at that price either unless it was a HUGE bargain. PC snobs should remember that we can't all afford top-end gear- that's why console games outsell PC games despite a lot more homes containing PCs than consoles;. most people can't play new games. The 360 version is a good bloody game and the reason it has less enemies is because it's played more as a real-time game and less pause, point and click. The graphics aren't that bad either. Certainly better than they'd look on a £300 PC, anyway.

[Aidunno]

Rather than join in the Console vs PC argument probably the best overview between the differences I have seen is the IGN video review, It compares the various versions and says if you can.. get the PC version.



I for one am pleased this game has been designed for each platform rather than menus etc being taken directly from consoles to PCs like some other games I could mention. Totally different systems need different user interfaces to make the most out of them.

[simpatikool]

The only people that HATE console versions of this game are just being snobbish. I kind of get a kick out of elitist gamers complaining that they view console as easy mode. That just smacks of elitist b.s.