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[Jab0r]

I will not include them. More people have TVs and speakers than computers.

Incidentally, you could plug your computer into that same TV and speaker set and play the game just as well as you could on a console.

[mastorofpuppetz]

Jab0r wrote...

I will not include them. More people have TVs and speakers than computers.

Incidentally, you could plug your computer into that same TV and speaker set and play the game just as well as you could on a console.

Yep. He really has little clue.

[Mage Chris]

deathwing200 wrote...

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

I'm 27 and love Dragon Age on the 360.  I played and beat Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Fallout 1 and 2 and countless other RPG's on the PC.  I just can't afford to continually upgrade my PC to keep up with the new games.  So...you're wrong.

Modifié par Mage Chris, 19 novembre 2009 - 07:37 .

[spadger]

Fatalmephisto wrote...

I've been reading alot of posts around the internet the last few day's about people hating the Console version of Dragon age, and i would like to know what people think on this matter, Ive been playing the console version now for other a week and half and i cant stop playing the game. What Experince would i be missing if i had a PC that chould run DA:O?

I had the PS3 version and the PC version is alot more tactical, i can imagine that. The graphics also scale better in higher resolution so it looks much better on PC.

[Anduin335]

Although I do not have either of those consoles I believe the reason I would dislike it is due to the view. I enjoy playing these types of games from the overhead view. I have heard you have to be in 3rd person view on the consoles.

Also the PS3 and Xbox 360 by the time you buy the wireless adapters, Live Accounts, Hard Drives and extra controllers are really not much cheaper than a modestly priced PC.  At least at the time of their release.  Not to mention games are around $10-15 more.  If you buy or build your gaming PC yourself you don't even need to buy a new keyboard, mouse or monitor since more than likely you have an old one laying around.  Any future PC upgrades do not need to include those items. 

Modifié par Anduin335, 19 novembre 2009 - 07:56 .

[mastorofpuppetz]

Mage Chris wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

I'm 27 and love Dragon Age on the 360.  I played and beat Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Fallout 1 and 2 and countless other RPG's on the PC.  I just can't afford to continually upgrade my PC to keep up with the new games.  So...you're wrong.

You dont need to continually upgrade, thats BS, only once every 3 years, by that time you would have spent  what you needed to upgradeon 20 bucks extra per console game you would have been paying.

[Mage Chris]

mastorofpuppetz wrote...

Mage Chris wrote...

deathwing200 wrote...

Since console players are always kids, who are generally bad at challenging RPGs like DA:O, Bio toned down the difficulty of the game on consoles to prevent them from crying if they die too much.

I'm 27 and love Dragon Age on the 360.  I played and beat Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Fallout 1 and 2 and countless other RPG's on the PC.  I just can't afford to continually upgrade my PC to keep up with the new games.  So...you're wrong.

You dont need to continually upgrade, thats BS, only once every 3 years, by that time you would have spent  what you needed to upgradeon 20 bucks extra per console game you would have been paying.

20 bucks extra per console game?  What exactly are you talking about there?  I bought DA:O for $49.99.  How much did you pay?

[mastorofpuppetz]

Console games are all 10-20 bucks more expensive, due to royalties to MS or Sony, this is a well known fact. On top fo this, Pc game prices drop much faster and after 6 months can be as cheap as 19.99, while console counterparts are still 40 bucks.

[Kabraxal]

The reason PC games drop faster in price is because they cannot sell as well as console games for the most part. They need to drop the price in order to sell stock or else copies tend to litter store shelves. The demand for console games is much higher, thus the price reflects the nature of the market.

[Pompeii69]

Jab0r wrote...

I will not include them. More people have TVs and speakers than computers.

Incidentally, you could plug your computer into that same TV and speaker set and play the game just as well as you could on a console.

I'm not going to re-arrange my house to move my PC into the living room to hook up to a TV... Especially since that computer is used for far more than gaming...  Just because something CAN be done, doesn't necessarily mean it SHOULD be done... 

Nope, playing on my console is far more comfortable and relaxing... Plus I sit in front of a PC all day, why would I want to go home and sit in front of a PC all night too...

[Kabraxal]

Too bad most laptops are horrible for gaming. It is far easier to connect/disconnect them when needed.

[Hawkeye111]

Delete duped post. Not optimal of course.

Modifié par Hawkeye111, 19 novembre 2009 - 08:26 .

[Hawkeye111]

The PS3 version is optimized for PS3, the Pc version is optimized for PC, you're an idiot, the fact they changed the game on console for PERFORMANCE reasons shows they optimized it on each platform, thus the big difference in te Pc version being much better, and not a gay bad port.

This is clearly a semantics issue. My interpretation of "optimal" is similar to Webster's dictionary which defines the word as "most desirable or satisfactory." Clearly, Dragon Age on consoles is not optimal to some folks because of the differences people and myself have listed in this thread.  This very thread exists because of this dissatisfaction. The game is best on the PC or "most desirable or satisfactory" (i.e. optimal).  Any "optimizations" to the xbox 360 version were made due to performance issues and only made the game worse. Therefore the most "optimal" version of the game is on the PC.

you're an idiot

I appreciate your input to the forum but there's no need for such brazen insults. Combine your anger and lack of spelling and punctuation, it's very challenging to take your posts seriously right now.

Modifié par Hawkeye111, 19 novembre 2009 - 08:43 .

[mastorofpuppetz]

Kabraxal wrote...

The reason PC games drop faster in price is because they cannot sell as well as console games for the most part. They need to drop the price in order to sell stock or else copies tend to litter store shelves. The demand for console games is much higher, thus the price reflects the nature of the market.

This is false, it is well documented every console game sold, MS and sony take a cut, on PC, this is not the case. many PC games that sell well, like Call of duty modern warfare, were still cheaper then console on llaunch day,. MS and sony sell sonsoles at a small los because they make money off every game sold.

[PatT2]

Funny. No console owners who are adults. Hmm...game is rated Mature. Shame on all those kids and their parents.

You're not hearing so much hate from console gamers because they're busy playing because there aren't the bugs and problems and freezes and glitches. Who's crying now?

Some of us will have both versions. You sit at your office desk playing, and I'll lounge in my leather recliner and play with a wall-sized screen. No $400 laptop for this.

Other than folks slamming other folks for their choices, does this thread even have a point? Shouldn't we all be playing instead of wasting everyone's time? I didn't bother with pages 2-5. Waste of time. Suffice it to say, i wish to get back to the game. Just don't believe all the bull.

For what it's worth, consider carefully...if either the PC gamers or the console gamers were persuaded against buying the game, you wouldn't have enough economic incentive left to bother creating it. That what you want? For us to walk away and leave, and let bioware and other companies like it fold?

Can we just stop? This reminds me more of elementary school playground cr*p.

[FatedHeart]

All in all... i dont think anyones particually bothered who thinks what is better, considering theyve all brought it for there perspective favorites. The company couldnt care as they are getting your money, the players dont care as they can play the game.. and hell.. if your a console player who hasnt played the pc version, you cant miss what you dont know right? So as far as console players are concerned they dont MISS the toolset or the overhead view or the graphics as they dont have it in the first place.. and therefore DONT know what they are actually missing..



All in all.. no one is particually bothered.

[iinfinity]

i bought my quad core amd phenom 2 pc for 475 pounds (dont know what that is in dollars) and my ps3 i got for 300 pounds -- so technically it wasent that much more to buy my pc then it was for my ps3, so my argument is, its not too expensive upgrading to a new pc every 3/4years

[Mark5477]

Ive played both. For someone used to consoles, the console version is fine but I think that if you are "tainted" by PC controls then you will notice a huge difference. Simple things like moving all characters at once during combat, or targeting using a mouse makes the PC controls far superior but honestly they are not game breaking and I can play both versions just fine. Whether or not the console version has less enemies does not make much of a difference as long as bosses and abilities are the same. User mods are great and are generally PC only.



Of course the bad part to PC gaming is the inherent "will it actually work on my PC" dilemma. I am from the school that think if you cannot build your own PC you probably should not be gaming on it either. Just buy a console and save yourself the headache but if you have some tech savvy, the PC experience far outstrips any console experience.

[Lord Beretor]

Hawkeye111 wrote...

The PS3 version is optimized for PS3, the Pc version is optimized for PC, you're an idiot, the fact they changed the game on console for PERFORMANCE reasons shows they optimized it on each platform, thus the big difference in te Pc version being much better, and not a gay bad port.

This is clearly a semantics issue. My interpretation of "optimal" is similar to Webster's dictionary which defines the word as "most desirable or satisfactory." Clearly, Dragon Age on consoles is not optimal to some folks because of the differences people and myself have listed in this thread.  This very thread exists because of this dissatisfaction. The game is best on the PC or "most desirable or satisfactory" (i.e. optimal).  Any "optimizations" to the xbox 360 version were made due to performance issues and only made the game worse. Therefore the most "optimal" version of the game is on the PC.

you're an idiot

I appreciate your input to the forum but there's no need for such brazen insults. Combine your anger and lack of spelling and punctuation, it's very challenging to take your posts seriously right now.

My idea and your idea  of "Most desirable or satisfactory" could be 2 very different things. So to say that the PC version is optimal by using that argument makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Optimal to you maybe... but don't try and shove your opinion down everyone elses throat.

It just makes you seem like a spoiled brat not getting their own way. 

[TheAlarmist]

Yelina wrote...

 Time to upgrade your gaming system to a real computer not a wannabe toy, which is what a console is.

Er... a console isn't a "wannabe toy" it is by defintion simply a toy. For that matter your gaming rig or any other computer used for entertainment purposes is also a toy.


At any rate I don't see why one has to insult another avenue used to enjoy the same hobby. You may think it's different, console gameing and "serious adult" PC gaming but in effect they are the same. It's all just play time brother. If I like the junglegym I don't have to insult the kids in the sandbox and kick down their castle to enjoy the playground.

[Jab0r]

I'm not going to re-arrange my house to move my PC into the living room to hook up to a TV... Especially since that computer is used for far more than gaming...

The point being claimed was "more people have televisions than have computers, so it's reasonable to lump the cost of the monitor in with the cost of the computer but ignore it entirely for the console". My counterargument was that if you have a television, you can hook your computer up to that instead of purchasing a computer monitor, no rearranging or additional expenditure necessary.

If you already have a computer (and thus a computer monitor), then nothing in that argument applies to your situation.

[Kabraxal]

You are still missing the point about monitors... most entertainment systems are situated, typically,in larger rooms that are not designed with keyboard, mouse, and CPU positions in mind. Most people don't view thier PC as an entertaiment machine, unlike consoles and various movie players.



In the end though, this argument is moot. PC gaming cannot compete with the raw numbers that console gaming generates and it is unlikely that it will regain its stature in the mainstream eye of gamers.