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[jimmyw404]

I remember seeing a difficulty map out there that listed the difficulty of the four allies in this order (IIRC) elves/redcliff/mage/dwarves. On my first playthrough I did it almost perfectly backwards, but this time I'll do it the appropriate way I think...

[RunCDFirst]

I did redcliffe/elves/mage/dwarves. I would actually put elves as harder than Redcliffe, but that might have been my choice of final battle during the elf part. I also found the dwarves to be easier than the mages, but I was running a mage PC so that might have added to it as well.

Modifié par RunCDFirst, 18 novembre 2009 - 06:02 .

[vyvexthorne]

The prima guide has them listed as Broken Circle, Arl of Redcliffe, Urn of Sacred Ashes, Paragon of her Kind, Nature of the Beast..

but after playing through broken circle, redcliff and Orzammar.. I haven't noticed anything specifically that would make going through one before the other more of smooth story telling experience... There seem to be quests in each area that need to be completed in other areas so no one direction is going to be a smooth sail through the game or grant you more bonuses than another area. My second play through I think I'll just go with whatever my race/class is as to which area I start first. It also depends on what you want for you character first.. If you want Oghren in your party early then you need to go to Orzammar.. if you want Wynne in your party early you need to go to the mages circle.. etc. etc.

[MBirkhofer]

I would definitely recommend Mage Circle first. if only for the healer..

And definitely Mage Circle prior to Redcliffe. (at least 1 major story option opens up if the mage tower is clear.)

Orzammar last. its higher level, and the nature of the questline, really makes the most sense going to last.



Brec, Haven can be any time really.

[vyvexthorne]

Also some good things to note... You can go to Denerim market and Orzammar to do some side quests and not have to worry about completely starting up the main quests in those areas. Denerim Is a really good place to earn some extra coin.. plus you'll have access to the shopkeepers in those areas. The mage tower traps you in and Redcliffe...it's just not a good idea to leave before you do the quest.

[LdyShayna]

MBirkhofer wrote...

I would definitely recommend Mage Circle first. if only for the healer..
And definitely Mage Circle prior to Redcliffe. (at least 1 major story option opens up if the mage tower is clear.)

That option is there even if you don't clear the Circle first, though when you get to the Circle for their help, I can just hear my character saying, "Of COURSE it can't be that 'easy'."   Certainly if you opt for the Circle oriented solution, narrative-wise you need to do the Broken Circle IMMEDIATELY after Redcliffe. 

Orzammar last. its higher level, and the nature of the questline, really makes the most sense going to last.
 

I agree.  Thematically speaking, I think Orzammar makes sense as being done last.

[Kepha]

The Missing Manual website has a map with the base difficulty levels.



Redcliffe and the Circle Tower appear to be the lowest level, so likely intended to be tackled first.

[BGFU888]

I recommend doing the mages first every time. The reason for this is that you get a lot of free stat ups in the fade independent of your level. Since you get stronger without leveling, that make the rest of the game after the mage tower slightly easier. Of course, if you were looking for more of a challenge you could skip the stat ups altogether.

[dan107]

To the OP, I know exactly what you mean about KOTOR, and I looked for the same thing in DA, but personally I just didn't see it. The side areas are so tangential to the main plot that you can really do them in any order. Just make sure that you have Alistair in your party for Redcliffe, and Shale for Orzammar, they both play bigger roles in those respective areas than other party members.

[Taltherion]

To me ... it seemed logical to go to Redcliff first (Alistair's recommendation, too). To save Connor, the next step was to do the Mage Tower. Then I went to Denerim to take a look around and picked up Brother Genitivi's trail ... and off to Haven.

[Kalfear]

I find that if you do Lothering and the Redcliff, that makes the story flow the most because at the end of Redcliff your sent to mage tower specifically.



As for Dwarves and Elves it doesnt much matter but Lothering -> Redcliff -> Mage Tower definately flows as would a cannon story.

[Enoch VG]

I role-played it. (With the exception of a meta-gaming detour to pick up my Golem.)



My first character was a mage, and since he knew the First Enchanter, and trusted him as a good guy to ask for help, I went to the Tower first. After that, the plan was to do the non-human factions, with the thinking that Loghain's influence would be lower there, so the risk of someone believing that I'm a traitor and turning me in for the bounty would be lower. But by the time I was done with the Elves, I understood the political situation better and felt OK with stopping in Redcliffe on my way to Orzammar.

[mousestalker]

My first time around, I did the quests elves, Redcliffe, Deneriim, DLC, mages, dwarves.

This time around I'm playing an elven mage so I'm thinking DLC (I <3 Shale), Denerim, mages, elves, Redcliffe then dwarves. Orzimmar has been a bear every time, so I'd like to be as tough as I can be.

[nt95]

My first play through I went Soldier's Peak (DLC), and Shale (DLC) to pick up some experience. I then did Circle Tower, Redcliffe, dwarves, Elves, Denerim. I think I did CT first to get Wynne. Next play through I may just do Redcliffe first and then CT since from what's been written it does seem to flow better.

[Sbri]

I also think that doing the Mage Tower first works best.  I went there first as a role-playing call while playing a mage in my first play through.  The power ups and the addition of Wynne makes it a premanent first pick in my future games. I think I will then go to Orzammar and do the Stone Prisoner to get the rest of my complanions.  From there I may just flip a coin to decide between Becilian Forest and Red Cliff.

[JamesX]

The most sense by the way the npcs mention it would be either

Denirm -> RedCliff

or

RedCliff -> Mage Tower -> either of the other 2.

[jimmyw404]

dan107 wrote...

To the OP, I know exactly what you mean about KOTOR, and I looked for the same thing in DA, but personally I just didn't see it. The side areas are so tangential to the main plot that you can really do them in any order. Just make sure that you have Alistair in your party for Redcliffe, and Shale for Orzammar, they both play bigger roles in those respective areas than other party members.

What does Shale do in Orzammar?

[FlintlockJazz]

The route for the best narrative I reckon is to go to Redcliffe first, once you get into the castle seek out the third way that causes you to go to the Mages' Tower, which will bag you the Mages' bit and then lead you back to Redcliffe to start the urn bit. Once you have finished the urn I find that narratively speaking Orzammer and Dalish can be done in either order so far. That's what makes the most sense to me anyway, it's not the most 'powerful' route but you seem to be asking what makes the most sense storywise and that's the one that did for me.

[mousestalker]

jimmyw404 wrote...

dan107 wrote...

To the OP, I know exactly what you mean about KOTOR, and I looked for the same thing in DA, but personally I just didn't see it. The side areas are so tangential to the main plot that you can really do them in any order. Just make sure that you have Alistair in your party for Redcliffe, and Shale for Orzammar, they both play bigger roles in those respective areas than other party members.

What does Shale do in Orzammar?

Well less for Orzammar per se as the Dead Trenches. Also, Shale's personal quest leads you to a thaig. May as well do Orzammar at the same time.

[Marbazoid]

The areas seem to flow into each other better in this order:



Redcliffe > Circle Tower > Back to Redcliffe > Denerim > Haven > Back to Redcliffe

> Brecillian Forest > Orzammar

[Vansen Elamber]

On this play through as a human female mage, I have gotten shale then headed straight to the Dwarves and right now I am at the battle against Branka. Her and her golems killed my mage PC on the first attempt as I had her running around trying to snuff out all the lyerium viens with a train of golems and Branka herself all following me! 

Somehow next time I need to avoid all the attention and that is one thing I don't like about this game is the tactics sometimes make the characters do things I don't want them to do. For instance if I have Leliana as an archer I want her to try to gain distance if enemy comes into her melee range, instead she imediately pulls her sword/dagger and never goes back to the bow even if she kills the melee that rushed her. Same goes for my PC, she abandons her staff and pulls out her dagger, and the only way I seem to be able to prevent that is if I don't equip melee weapons on ranged characters.

Anyway this time Oghren seems to be warming up to my PC as I already have him at +30 something (warm) lol not even sure if that senario is possible. I thought the game might play a bit different if I had Oghren through most of it instead of the way I did it the first time doing the dwarves last.

[Alphidius]

Well, so far I've tried the Arl of Redcliffe but needed to complete the Broken Circle quest first.
So now I'm back at the first one and it sends me on the Urn of Ashes quest which should take me to Denerim or so.
The squence works quite well so far.