The Angry One wrote...
In my canon run, Alistair is the OGB father and if somehow the planets align and you are playing as the Warden again encountering him would make some great awkward moments.. (glare-eyes contest with Morrigan, go!).
But you can't just stomp all over the people who didn't and sacrificed themselves, Alistair or Loghain.
Wee Joe Green wrote...
Torax wrote...
Expect the average companion ranges of say 20-Mid 30's with at times the older gray haired Father/Mother figure in the mix.
A Teenage demi-god as your side kick? Not likely.
Not referring to the demi-god part, why could they not have a teenage companion in the mix? Why should they so rigidly stick to what has been the trend so far. There would be nothing inherently wrong with a teenage companion, especially one who was so strong. More than anything it's a little bit of originality and would open avenues for unique dialogue and personal demons more so than the norm.
I can imagine Varric adopting the Uncle approach over such a one. Teaching him/her all the wrong things to do - how to cheat and gamble etc. This is a hypothitical example, but i'm sure you can imagine the kinds of interaction i'm meaning.
Torax wrote...
If the Ritual still required her to sleep with a fresher gray warden. Then who would have slept with her? Alistair? He'd have told her F%*$ YOU! If he was Hardened he would yell it even louder. Loghain would probably slap her and shove her out the door. If she persisted he'd probably stab her. Why it doesn't make sense to force it on others. Where would she get it unless the player allows?
Wee Joe Green wrote...
Torax wrote...
Expect the average companion ranges of say 20-Mid 30's with at times the older gray haired Father/Mother figure in the mix.
A Teenage demi-god as your side kick? Not likely.
Not referring to the demi-god part, why could they not have a teenage companion in the mix? Why should they so rigidly stick to what has been the trend so far. There would be nothing inherently wrong with a teenage companion, especially one who was so strong. More than anything it's a little bit of originality and would open avenues for unique dialogue and personal demons more so than the norm.
I can imagine Varric adopting the Uncle approach over such a one. Teaching him/her all the wrong things to do - how to cheat and gamble etc. This is a hypothitical example, but i'm sure you can imagine the kinds of interaction i'm meaning.
Modifié par Torax, 10 avril 2011 - 05:31 .
LyndseyCousland wrote...
I don't know why people want to speculate so hard about what the next game will entail... doesn't it just make you feel impatient? xD
I wouldn't want to play Morrigan's child in a game mainly because I would prefer to observe the actions of this character rather than choose what to do for him. He has the potential to have a very interesting story line which I would prefer to watch unfold.
Torax wrote...
You want a 14-15 year old as a companion to battle Mages, templars. Orgres, Darkspawn. Pride Demons. Broodmothers and so on? Why? Would only work from a Demi God that would explain why they aren't mince meat in seconds. One of the two 17-18 year old siblings get basically smashed in 2 seconds with the first real Ogre you fight.
DarthSliver wrote...
Well what about the Recommended Default Warden for DA2 that is presented. Both Wardens survive and indicates to me that the Dark Ritual was indeed done and that is on their canon Warden so to speak for DA2. I dont recall Alistar mentioning Loghain in that playthrough when you talk to him in the Viscount Keep. But it still implies that the Ritual might actually become canon.
But in all my playthroughs I could never recruit Loghain with Alistar not leaving or being exiled or what not and i dont remember DA:O Guide mentioning away for Loghain to be recruited with Alistar still there.
Herr Uhl wrote...
DarthSliver wrote...
Well what about the Recommended Default Warden for DA2 that is presented. Both Wardens survive and indicates to me that the Dark Ritual was indeed done and that is on their canon Warden so to speak for DA2. I dont recall Alistar mentioning Loghain in that playthrough when you talk to him in the Viscount Keep. But it still implies that the Ritual might actually become canon.
But in all my playthroughs I could never recruit Loghain with Alistar not leaving or being exiled or what not and i dont remember DA:O Guide mentioning away for Loghain to be recruited with Alistar still there.
Where did you get this from?
The Angry One wrote...
We don't know Flemeth's plan. For all we know the OGB is completely incidental.
Wee Joe Green wrote...
The Angry One wrote...
We don't know Flemeth's plan. For all we know the OGB is completely incidental.
No we do not. But, we do know this was her intention for allowing her daughter to leave on the quest with the Warden. This is stated in game at the end of Origins.
Herr Uhl wrote...
DarthSliver wrote...
Well what about the Recommended Default Warden for DA2 that is presented. Both Wardens survive and indicates to me that the Dark Ritual was indeed done and that is on their canon Warden so to speak for DA2. I dont recall Alistar mentioning Loghain in that playthrough when you talk to him in the Viscount Keep. But it still implies that the Ritual might actually become canon.
But in all my playthroughs I could never recruit Loghain with Alistar not leaving or being exiled or what not and i dont remember DA:O Guide mentioning away for Loghain to be recruited with Alistar still there.
Where did you get this from?
Torax wrote...
If the Ritual still required her to sleep with a fresher gray warden. Then who would have slept with her? Alistair? He'd have told her F%*$ YOU! If he was Hardened he would yell it even louder. Loghain would probably slap her and shove her out the door. If she persisted he'd probably stab her. Why it doesn't make sense to force it on others. Where would she get it unless the player allows?
Also as I stated it's not some big thing to mull over the entire game. You are told just before it that someone has to die. You or Alistair/Loghain depending on the choices you made at the Landsmeet. So then you weigh you or the companion. Go to room and Morrigan is like "This doesn't have to be so." She doesn't care if you romanced at all. She just wants to have sex for the baby. It's a silly ploy to allow the player to not die really. But not enough to make a OGB Cannon for all that made the sacrifice or had Alistair or Loghain go down in History as the ones to end the Blight.
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The Angry One wrote...
[Teenagers are annoying with their iPods and their Justin Bieber. I throw cats at them and yell incoherently.
Besides if we get an all-powerful teenager on our team people will start throwing accusations of DA following JRPGs around.
DarthSliver wrote...
Its in DA2 when you choose a Default Warden, the one with both Wardens surviving is the Recommended option to choose. Its called Hero Of Feralden I believe. Id confirm this with you if i had my guidebook or game with me, but my friend is borrowing both. Just start a new Hawke and look.
Modifié par SarEnyaDor, 10 avril 2011 - 05:49 .
Wee Joe Green wrote...
Torax wrote...
If the Ritual still required her to sleep with a fresher gray warden. Then who would have slept with her? Alistair? He'd have told her F%*$ YOU! If he was Hardened he would yell it even louder. Loghain would probably slap her and shove her out the door. If she persisted he'd probably stab her. Why it doesn't make sense to force it on others. Where would she get it unless the player allows?
Also as I stated it's not some big thing to mull over the entire game. You are told just before it that someone has to die. You or Alistair/Loghain depending on the choices you made at the Landsmeet. So then you weigh you or the companion. Go to room and Morrigan is like "This doesn't have to be so." She doesn't care if you romanced at all. She just wants to have sex for the baby. It's a silly ploy to allow the player to not die really. But not enough to make a OGB Cannon for all that made the sacrifice or had Alistair or Loghain go down in History as the ones to end the Blight.
Well, I would say as one who fully devoted themselves to romancing her that she did in fact care about the romance, but as an unintended consequence. The baby was her primary concern but she had grown to truly love my Warden.
Torax wrote...
Wee Joe Green wrote...
Torax wrote...
Expect the average companion ranges of say 20-Mid 30's with at times the older gray haired Father/Mother figure in the mix.
A Teenage demi-god as your side kick? Not likely.
Not referring to the demi-god part, why could they not have a teenage companion in the mix? Why should they so rigidly stick to what has been the trend so far. There would be nothing inherently wrong with a teenage companion, especially one who was so strong. More than anything it's a little bit of originality and would open avenues for unique dialogue and personal demons more so than the norm.
I can imagine Varric adopting the Uncle approach over such a one. Teaching him/her all the wrong things to do - how to cheat and gamble etc. This is a hypothitical example, but i'm sure you can imagine the kinds of interaction i'm meaning.
You want a 14-15 year old as a companion to battle Mages, templars. Orgres, Darkspawn. Pride Demons. Broodmothers and so on? Why? Would only work from a Demi God that would explain why they aren't mince meat in seconds. One of the two 17-18 year old siblings get basically smashed in 2 seconds with the first real Ogre you fight.
Modifié par Wee Joe Green, 10 avril 2011 - 05:49 .
SarEnyaDor wrote...
It says in the book it is "recommended" because it will give you the most optional side quests to see had you never played DAO
The Angry One wrote...
Herr Uhl wrote...
DarthSliver wrote...
Well what about the Recommended Default Warden for DA2 that is presented. Both Wardens survive and indicates to me that the Dark Ritual was indeed done and that is on their canon Warden so to speak for DA2. I dont recall Alistar mentioning Loghain in that playthrough when you talk to him in the Viscount Keep. But it still implies that the Ritual might actually become canon.
But in all my playthroughs I could never recruit Loghain with Alistar not leaving or being exiled or what not and i dont remember DA:O Guide mentioning away for Loghain to be recruited with Alistar still there.
Where did you get this from?
It's the first on the list! Therefore it's recommended/canon.
That logic always makes me balk, but there it is.
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