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[Malevolence65]

*MODERATOR EDIT* 
Since the OP took the liberty of excluding the entire quote,  I"ll paste it here

Our goal is to make sure that when you start playing ME3, you are
brought into the story line in a way that the game will "make sense" -
regardless of having played the DLCs or even ME1 or 2. Heck, even
players of the past games may need a refresher depending on how long it
will have been since they last played. We're looking into creative ways
to do this. And no, that doesn't mean
"it doesn't matter if you played the first two games or not" - there's
no desire to invalidate loyalty to the series

It's ridiculous. Mass Effect is a story based series. Why does Bioware care about the people who don't play the entire series?

Modifié par Malevolence65, 10 avril 2011 - 05:58 .

[Forsythia]

Any good company does this. You don't want to alienate new customers, now do you?

[Kronner]

Money.

[Deinonychus]

BioWare wants to make money, just like every other business out there.

Forsythia wrote...

Any good company does this. You don't want to alienate new customers, now do you?

And this.

[AlbertoAquilani]

It's common business sense, no? Every company does it.

The difference is that Bioware devs are willing to come on their forums to discuss it where mostly, others don't.

Modifié par AlbertoAquilani, 10 avril 2011 - 03:52 .

[Gavinthelocust]

While it's ridiculous from my perspective I can see why they'd want to draw more people in with the last game from a business perspective. Rather than alienating everyone outside of the people who played the prequels they want as many people as possible. Sure it may mean a dumb little tutorial and everything is a bit over explained but it's for a reason. With luck it'll be hardly noticeable to veterans of the series.

[rabidphoenix]

To cater to the widest market of people to make the most money.

[Phaedon]

The question is; why shouldn't they?

A comic is not only good for newcomers, but it is also useful for old players who don't want to play ME1 and ME2 all over again in order to make a new character.

[termokanden]

What's wrong with making the game accessible to new players? Don't they do this with all games anyway?

[Almostfaceman]

If they do it right, like the beginning dialogue of ME2, or with the to-some-people-crappy comic for the PS3 users - it tells people about the previous parts of the story without really punishing the people who have played the game. AND it sometimes generates interest in buying the previous chapter(s).

[Malevolence65]

Gavinthelocust wrote...
Sure it may mean a dumb little tutorial and everything is a bit over explained

No, that's not it. There will be new squad members and romances instead of spending more time on the already existing ones. That's why I don't like it.

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Kronner wrote...

Money.

this

[flipflopbop]

Not gonna lie, I started with the 2nd game and worked my way backwards..Hell, if it wasn't for ME2, I wouldn't be looking like a total nerd at work for reading the novelization of ME..*shakes head* ME universe is a drug...MUST ESCAPE!!!

[Labrev]

Because if #3 is good and gets the player hooked, odds are they will go back and play 1 & 2. Regardless, they can still make money off 3.

I was a video-game noob when I picked up ME2, then I had to get ME1.

[Gavinthelocust]

Malevolence65 wrote...

Gavinthelocust wrote...
Sure it may mean a dumb little tutorial and everything is a bit over explained

No, that's not it. There will be new squad members and romances instead of spending more time on the already existing ones. That's why I don't like it.

That makes sense, but until we get more information from Bioware it's speculation more or less.

[Zelnik]

my only level of agreement to the OP comes from the fact.. that there is a BIG "3" in the title. People should not go "oh it must be trendy to put numbers on new games!" and expect to understand everything that is going on.

It's like watching Return of the Jedi without watching A New Hope or Empire Strikes Back. Your going to be confused if you don't see why the hell they are on Tatooine in the first place.

It's not like ME1 or 2 are that pricey (unless you go all out on DLC), and their costs are going to drop the moment that ME3 is released. Buy all the games, play all the games, enjoy all the games .

[kyles3]

As long as the ME3 comic doesn't get bugged to hell by a patch and prevent a dude from starting a new game I think it's a smart idea. 

[skcih-deraj]

Well when you pick up a game and its had two or more other games before it then wouldn't you want to know whats going on in like the first ten min? Or is it better to alienate that group?

And think about it this way, if they didn't play the first two games or even just the second those that pick up the third game wont have the same experiance gameplay wise as we do. So is catching them up to speed with a comic that gives a very basic description of the last two games so bad?

[Freeride600]

I got ME2, then went back and got ME1.

I'm sure a lot of newbs will do similar with ME3....

But yeah, it's all strategy on BW's part. They is smart imo.

[Irrepressible]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

Gavinthelocust wrote...
Sure it may mean a dumb little tutorial and everything is a bit over explained

No, that's not it. There will be new squad members and romances instead of spending more time on the already existing ones. That's why I don't like it.

That makes sense, but until we get more information from Bioware it's speculation more or less.

How does that make sense? Where does making the game accessible to new players mean that there will be new squad members and new romances instead of spending more time on the already existing ones? The already existing ones would be new to people new to the series anyway so it wouldn't make a difference to them if there were new or returning characters.

[Parah_Salin]

because ME1 is owned by Microsoft, and 2/3 by EA, so a lot of people on the PS3 are starting with 2. Or some people who are more casual gamers might have just heard about the series might have just gone own and bought ME2 (I mean I have often bought sequels to games before the original. Why? because I'm usually intrigued by the gameplay first and just go for the most modern version...and that works for a lot of games).

Also since it's a shooter/RPG hybrid (and in the gaming world those tend to be people at opposite ends of a spectrum), there are probably fans of both of those genre's who wrote it off as the other, and might just be giving it a shot.

I expect ME3 will be bigger and more publicized than 1/2, and so there will be people starting with 3, and it's pretty unreasonable to tell them to go buy 2 other games and I-don't-even-know-how-much-it-adds-up to in DLC. So actually, I DON'T think it's about money.

Besides, making the ME series accessible and introducing more people to the series is good. The more people are just like "Mass Effect, good series" in the real world the less I feel like the ME equivalent of a Trekkie. And if you make the game only for "Fans" then it will just be another nerdy, irrelevant, kind of unknown series, which would be a shame since the intelligence of the world and storyline is top notch sci fi, hell, just top notch fiction in general, even vs. more established media formats like TV, Movies, Books, Plays, etc...

[Sahariel]

If something is episodic in nature there has to be scope for people coming into the story at any point. TV shows do it, Movie franchises do it, hell it's even done in literature. Also although I have a deep and abiding love of Mass Effect it's not exactly Shakespeare, you can sum up the pertinent information going into ME3 without derailing the immersion for long time fans. ME2 did a perfectly admirable job and I have no doubt they will hit the bullseye for ME3.

[Malevolence65]

Irrepressible wrote...
How does that make sense? Where does making the game accessible to new players mean that there will be new squad members and new romances instead of spending more time on the already existing ones?

Mass Effect 2

[Lacan2]

As long as it doesn't negatively impact those of us who have, I don't care.

[javierabegazo]

Why do you think you can have such a level of arrogance and entitlement just because you've had the good fortune and luck to have been able to play all the story dlc's so far?

I'll see where this thread closes but threads like these don't last very long