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Why all the Hawke hate?


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I really like Hawke. both were very well voiced, and had resonable reactions that adjusted to the players preference. If its because they didn't play a pivotal role in the plot (debateable) events, thats a plot issue, not a Hawke issue.
Y u no like Hawke?

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I liked male Hawke, not so much female Hawke. But I don't really want to KEEP GOING as Hawke after DLC. I enjoyed their story, but I think it would be more interesting to experience new origins and romances in the future, instead of just repeating Hawke every time.

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Who hates Hawke?  Death to the haterz!!!!!!!!  Image IPB

Hawke is teh awesum.  Image IPB

No, but seriously  - I don't hate Hawke.  I just don't think Hawke was important.  And I also think Hawk's "story", such as it was, is over with the conclusion of DA2.

Yes, those are plot issues or story issues, not Hawke issues . . . .but why would I want to keep playing a character that wasn't particularly important, and who's story is over?  I don't.

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To further develop their awesomeness of course. we haven't had much closure with hawke, and so i want them back in DA3, where perhaps they will play a much more drastic role.

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I suspect a lot of it has to do with the fact that he's not the warden. Personally I liked him quite a bit,.

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If they did the warden, a whole lot more folks would be pissed than pleased. bringing back supporting characters already got a lot of panties in a knot, if they started on main characters, that'd just be rediculous!

Modifié par thurmanator692, 10 avril 2011 - 08:33 .


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Is there Hawke hate? I haven't seen any. I do think Hawke is kind of meh, but I don't get as attached to more fixed characters as I do to those I have more a hand in making.

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I don't hate them. They have their amusing parts. Though admittedly I'm more likely to play Lady Hawke cause at times I still hear Vaughn from Hawke Man.

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I have never liked the protagonist of Bioware games, but at least Hawke seemed to be consistent in his dialogue, that said i really hate his sarcastic dialogue, it makes him sound like a complete smug ****.

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I think there's more Hawke apathy than hate, the reasons for which are fairly obvious.

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sephiroth199127 wrote...

I have never liked the protagonist of Bioware games, but at least Hawke seemed to be consistent in his dialogue, that said i really hate his sarcastic dialogue, it makes him sound like a complete smug ****.


Sarcastic Hawke was, coincidentally, my favorite. :pinched:

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No Hawke hate, but not a very interesting character. I have zero interest in Hawke, Hawke's story or Hawke's family post Dragon Age 2. It's probably because Hawke's story and Hawke's relationship with others is poorly executed in Dragon Age 2.

Just my opinion. I am keeping faith in the downloadable content.

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I actually love Hawke, just as much as I do my Warden, and I'll probably be holding out for a DA3 that has both of them until Laidlaw comes out and says they're streamlining and creating a new protagonist and story...again.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 10 avril 2011 - 09:23 .


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Yeah there's alot of Hawke hate, But I love him myself. My WittyHawke is probably my favorite protagonist of all time. It was refreshing to be the funniest character in a game this time around and not relying purely on your companions to fill that role. I really felt connected to him.

I liked my warden too, just not close to the same level.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Yeah there's alot of Hawke hate, But I love him myself. My WittyHawke is probably my favorite protagonist of all time. It was refreshing to be the funniest character in a game this time around and not relying purely on your companions to fill that role. I really felt connected to him.

I liked my warden too, just not close to the same level.


That's exactly why I liked the sarcastic Hawke. I think he was actually the most entertaining character in the game, honestly.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Yeah there's alot of Hawke hate, But I love him myself. My WittyHawke is probably my favorite protagonist of all time. It was refreshing to be the funniest character in a game this time around and not relying purely on your companions to fill that role. I really felt connected to him.

I liked my warden too, just not close to the same level.

This, entirely this. I don't really see how the warden is any more play defined than Hawke in any case. I mean you still had a family and the background that entails and even more you're thrust in the Wardens, an organization you might hate (I do). Hawke's motivations are just as complex and varied as the warden's, and in either case my sarcastic **** with a heart of gold mage is by far my favorite character ever. As much as I love Leliana and her romance, I want more Hawke.

As well a big thing is that the Warden's personality felt too much like Sheppard's, in that you are either Space/Fereldon Jesus or an evil bastard. Hawke seems more nuanced and I appreciate that.

Modifié par noxsachi, 10 avril 2011 - 09:56 .


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noxsachi wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Yeah there's alot of Hawke hate, But I love him myself. My WittyHawke is probably my favorite protagonist of all time. It was refreshing to be the funniest character in a game this time around and not relying purely on your companions to fill that role. I really felt connected to him.

I liked my warden too, just not close to the same level.

This, entirely this. I don't really see how the warden is any more play defined than Hawke in any case. I mean you still had a family and the background that entails and even more you're thrust in the Wardens, an organization you might hate (I do). Hawke's motivations are just as complex and varied as the warden's, and in either case my sarcastic **** with a heart of gold mage is by far my favorite character ever. As much as I love Leliana and her romance, I want more Hawke.

As well a big thing is that the Warden's personality felt too much like Sheppard's, in that you are either Space/Fereldon Jesus or an evil bastard. Hawke seems more nuanced and I appreciate that.


This.

Plus even if you disagree with that, Hawke still wins. Why? Because Mircle of Sound made a tribute to Hawke and not the Warden. Image IPB

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Oh, I really like Hawke, and the Warden.
The two forces of nature! ;)

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I don't like male Hawke much, and tbh never played male. I love my Lady Hawke though and I really want her to be protagonist in DA3 again.

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I like Hawke just fine, but for some reason Hawke never feels as much like "my character" in the same way my warden did (or wardens more accuratly).

I like female Hawke better than male however. Nicholas Boulton does all right voice acting but sometimes his lines feel...mechanic or forced. Jo Wyatt does a better jobb imo.

Modifié par Darker_than_black, 10 avril 2011 - 10:14 .


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Hawke was fine, but looked like a mass Effect Pu**y in the demo. His voice acting was a bit lame, a stronger leader voice I would have liked. I am starting my third playthrough with LadyHawke (lol) and wow- I made her the most babelicious character I have seen! But so far she's a monster of a fighter, and it's clever how the dialogue is so different. Damn Fenris already hitting on her, she's going after Isabella and Merrill to satisfy my lezbo-fantasy, as any typical guy would.
But I want her to be tough and soft both...one helluva Dragonslaying bytch- OH YEAH.

What was I saying?

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jcp234 wrote...

No Hawke hate, but not a very interesting character. I have zero interest in Hawke, Hawke's story or Hawke's family post Dragon Age 2. It's probably because Hawke's story and Hawke's relationship with others is poorly executed in Dragon Age 2.


That sums it up nicely.

I'm not per se against a voiced character, I love my Shepard just fine. Hawke however is the most boring/bland character I have encountered in a long time. I have zero interest in him/her. It is really that easy.

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I don't hate Hawke, I just never felt like Hawke was "my" Hawke not like the Warden was "my" Warden or Shepard was 'my" Shepard. When I was playing Shepard or the Warden I felt like my choice's mattered I didn't feel like a champion or hero as Hawke thats what disappointed me most about Hawke.

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I think it hits the nail on the head when you call it apathy. When you can't create a character or a background and when a voice is thrust upon you, it's no longer role playing. It's conforming and going through motions. Hawke and Shepard should not be compared. Shepard is an action hero in a game with RPG elements. DA is supposed to be a real RPG.

However, I take issue with not liking Hawke because he/she does nothing. That's not the point. Hawke is one of those individuals that events just happen around. A Rand al'Thor type, perhaps. There were thousands of refugees fleeing Ferelden for the Free Marches. Flemeth singled him out. If he were not around, Varric and Bartrand would have never gotten into the Deep Roads, Isabela would never have retaken the Relic. More than likely, The Qunari would have crushed Kirkwall. The list goes on. Hawke's presence is the important factor.

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Purple hawke fit me like an old shoe.
I can't remember the occasion, but i remember some conversation where a character said something, I thought how I would reply to them, hit the sarcastic spot, and Hawke says what i was thinking to the letter