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[KnightofPhoenix]

Zjarcal wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...
I take it you're a Merrill fan?

I wonder if that big siggie gave it away... 

I am kind of sad that Leli only shows up once in the sig

[Zjarcal]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

thurmanator692 wrote...
I take it you're a Merrill fan?

I wonder if that big siggie gave it away... 

I am kind of sad that Leli only shows up once in the sig

Oh... I was lazy and didn't wanted to make a new one equal in size. But my love for them both is equal. <3

Modifié par Zjarcal, 11 avril 2011 - 01:02 .

[Suron]

because he's a tool.

At least in Origins you could actually CAUSE things to happen or not happen within confines of the story (yes you still had to rally against Loghain and yes you still had to kill the Archdemon)...however Hawke..is just a reactionary moron.

he stands there and WATCHES everything happen...then kills anyone left standing. he doesn't actually affect ANYTHING. He's a janitor that uses a sword instead of a broom and fireballs instead of windex.

Modifié par Suron, 11 avril 2011 - 01:01 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Zjarcal wrote...
Oh... I was lazy and didn't wanted to make a new one equal in size. But my love for them both is equal.. <3

So a foursome is possible?

And no, I don't know how this question logically follows up from your post.

[Teddie Sage]

I can't say I hated him, nor that I loved him; but I certainly preferred him to my Grey Warden. For a Champion, he's rarely involved in the choices made in the story line and that's probably why people don't really relate to him. Plus, you got to add the fact that many of the dramatic scenes were done so wrong that it had no impact on the player.

[Zjarcal]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
So a foursome is possible?

And no, I don't know how this question logically follows up from your post.

ROFL!!

There's no need for logic when foursomes are involved. 

Well, Dana and Ciera would certainly push for it, while Leli would more than likely agree, but I'm not sure about Merrill... we'd probably have to explain her what a foursome is and then she'd get all embarrassed.... 

thurmanator692 wrote...
I was about to be a smartass and say isabela, but i'm not in the mood lol

Oh, funny... 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 11 avril 2011 - 01:09 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Zjarcal wrote...
ROFL!!

There's no need for logic when foursomes are involved. 

Well, Dana and Ciera would certainly push for it, while Leli would more than likely agree, but I'm not sure about Merrill... we'd probably have to explain her what a foursome is and then she'd get all embarrassed.... 

You can tell that that it would make her cool and popular in the human world.
Or that it's impolite and insulting to refuse in human culture

[errant_knight]

I don't hate Hawke, I just don't like my player character to be as far out on my control as that. It felt like Hawke was an amusing and likable NPC (unlike most of the real npcs), but that's not what I look for in a player character. I want to create my PC, not have him/her handed to me on a platter. But hate? No. I felt pretty damn sorry for the poor bastard by the end.

[The Angry One]

I blame Varric.

[Teddie Sage]

errant_knight wrote...

I don't hate Hawke, I just don't like my player character to be as far out on my control as that. It felt like Hawke was an amusing and likable NPC (unlike most of the real npcs), but that's not what I look for in a player character. I want to create my PC, not have him/her handed to me on a platter. But hate? No. I felt pretty damn sorry for the poor bastard by the end.

Though, you make one valid point here that many among us share... Hawke was a victim. As much as I want to empathy for that guy, I just can't. I wish I did though. It's rare I don't get any attachment from my characters. Specially my avatars in video games like MMOs or BioWare/Bethesda stuff.

[Zjarcal]

thurmanator692 wrote...
Well, she doesn't want to miss the dirty stuff....

KnightofPhoenix wrote...You can tell that that it would make her cool and popular in the human world.
Or that it's impolite and insulting to refuse in human culture

Yeah, I think exploiting her innocence and naiveness might be pretty useful here...

Ciera: "Tis typical for friends to do this. Otherwise they'll consider us dull and won't want to hang out with us anymore..."

Merrill: "Oh, I certainly don't want that! I already complain too much about my life being so dull. But... why is the warden bringing whips? Are those to scare Sandal away?"

Oh, what horrible people we are exploiting the poor girl. 

Ahem, I'm done hogging the thread with my naughty posts. 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 11 avril 2011 - 01:25 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

The Angry One wrote...

I blame Varric.

He's a horrible story teller if he can't imagine different caves and estates, and keeps on boring us with redundant wave after wave combat.

Thankfully his chest hair makes up for it. Probably the only reason Cassandra was not bored.

[The Angry One]

Zjarcal wrote...

Yeah, I think exploiting her innocence and naiveness might be pretty useful here... "Tis typical for friends to do this. Otherwise they'll consider us dull and won't want to hang out with us anymore..."

Oh, what horrible people we are exploiting the poor girl. 

Ahem, I'm done hogging the thread with my naughty posts. 

Who knows, she might summon a demon to "make it better".

[The Angry One]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

I blame Varric.

He's a horrible story teller if he can't imagine different caves and estates, and keeps on boring us with redundant wave after wave combat.

Thankfully his chest hair makes up for it. Probably the only reason Cassandra was not bored.

That would explain her constant glaring.

[KnightofPhoenix]

The Angry One wrote...

That would explain her constant glaring.

Mmhmm.

[In Exile]

Morroian wrote...
Good points, Hawke is his/her own person making his/her way in the world, not part of any organisation/institution, which IMHO is actually why Hawke doesn't have choices in directing the plot. The Warden had the power of the Grey Warden's behind him, Hawke doesn't have that because he/she remains independent. Yet Hawke gets what he/she has because he is still a powerful character.

The Warden had maybe the authority of the Grey Wardens... but in all fairness you only used the treaty to get into Orzammar and otherwise winged it from there.

[Morroian]

Suron wrote...

because he's a tool.

At least in Origins you could actually CAUSE things to happen or not happen within confines of the story (yes you still had to rally against Loghain and yes you still had to kill the Archdemon)...however Hawke..is just a reactionary moron.

Why is he a moron? He's not part of the power structure so he's in no position to actually give the orders that would defuse the situation. There are moments in Act 3 where he tries to play peacemaker where he tries to prompt Elthina to do something, anything.

[TheBlackBaron]

Zjarcal wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...
So a foursome is possible?

And no, I don't know how this question logically follows up from your post.

ROFL!!

There's no need for logic when foursomes are involved. 

Threesomes  Foursomes solves everything. Everything.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 11 avril 2011 - 01:35 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Morroian wrote...
Why is he a moron? He's not part of the power structure so he's in no position to actually give the orders that would defuse the situation. There are moments in Act 3 where he tries to play peacemaker where he tries to prompt Elthina to do something, anything.

But he had a lot of symbolic power and the beginning of Act 3 made a point of showing us (and almost teasing us, saying this is as far as Hawke would bother to act). And remember, he'd been Champion for three years.

Many nobles hate Meredith when she clamped down on them and many see what she is doing as a power grap. In act 3's beginning, we see that Hawke has apparently enough power to influence their opinion. That was something he could have expanded upon during thsoe 3 years. Add to that the guardsmen who are fierecely loyal to Aveline, who herself could be very loyal to Hawke.

Those two right there certainly give Hawke a substantial amount of informal power. During those 3 years, if he had bothered to do anything, he could have also gathered popular support, especially since many of them dislike Meredith and sympathize with mages.

Perhaps he could have even uncovered the mage / Templar conspiracy earlier if he wasn't too busy doing nothing.

There was a lot Hawke could have done to apply pressure on Meredith, or even support her, without needing to be part of the official power structure (Technically Meredith is not part of Kirkwall's either). He doesn't have to be succesful, but at least make him active.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 11 avril 2011 - 01:37 .

[axl99]

It would be hilarious if DA2 was actually this ginormous origin story for Hawke before he/she goes off to "change the world" as Flemeth prophesized.

There are certain advantages to be had if Hawke actually became Viscount. But regardless of whomever Hawke sides with, the real point was to make sure the in-fighting stays with the mages and templars to minimize the spread of conflict towards Kirkwall citizens.

Hawke's experience of the events that happened in the game has the lethal potential to change the world's perception of the Chantry and the Circle if word ever gets out. That is some serious blackmail material that certain factions would kill to have.

Modifié par axl99, 11 avril 2011 - 01:48 .

[The Angry One]

To say nothing of Anders, especially if you're a pro-Templar. This loose cannon was obviously going to do something, and won't stop dropping hints in act 3. But nope, leave the paranoid crazy man alone, what could possibly go wrong?

[Lenimph]

Zjarcal wrote...


Ciera: "Tis typical for friends to do this. Otherwise they'll consider us dull and won't want to hang out with us anymore..."

Speaking of friends... Isabela would find out about it someday and probably break down into tears for not being a part of it... 

[Morroian]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

There was a lot Hawke could have done to apply pressure on Meredith, or even support her, without needing to be part of the official power structure (Technically Meredith is not part of Kirkwall's either). He doesn't have to be succesful, but at least make him active.

He could support the nobles who were plotting against Meredith in Act 3, nothing came of that beyond a few fights because the writers didn't pursue it. There were moments when Hawke could explore becoming Viscount but got shot down in flames because he explicitly needed the support of the templars. He tried to prompt Elthina into acting, tried personally to play peacemaker between Meredith and Orsino.