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GLORY... I think... it's an optical illusion called "Glory" 

Okay, I tried fogging my mirror with my breath... doesn't work.  Only seems to work after I've had a shower.  So, I think this is what it is... all the water vapour in the bathroom must contribute to this.

In any case, I need to see an optician anyway - so I'll bring it up with them too.

EDIT: Maybe not.. apparently glory requires the sun to be right behind you...

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Your eyes aren't glowing at all but the mirror peoples eyes always glow, watch them for a few hours or days and you'll see them come to life and move and the scars and wrinkles on your body will in the reflection shift and flow forming whole languages of power. It is more fun than television.

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I just showered and all I saw was two dark circles with a bit of blue in the middle. But a combination of painkillers and no sleep has left my eyes quite bloodshot and a wee bit swollen.

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Druss99 wrote...

I just showered and all I saw was two dark circles with a bit of blue in the middle. But a combination of painkillers and no sleep has left my eyes quite bloodshot and a wee bit swollen.



Did they look much like the glory halos (but were just that colour)?

GAH, must go to sleep!

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AwesomeName wrote...

Druss99 wrote...

I just showered and all I saw was two dark circles with a bit of blue in the middle. But a combination of painkillers and no sleep has left my eyes quite bloodshot and a wee bit swollen.



Did they look much like the glory halos (but were just that colour)?

GAH, must go to sleep!

Nah not really. It wasn't anything impressive just darkness where my eyes should be. Combination of the light angle and steam on the mirror. I think you might possibly be posessed by a Reaper.

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AwesomeName wrote...

Did they look much like the glory halos (but were just that colour)?


I totally read that as "glory holes".

I had so many questions, but now they're gone... :o

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I get something where I'd stare at a light for a long time, then close my eyes and can still see the light clearly...

Not quite the same as OP's but still weird.

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I've never experienced this phenomenon, but I'm sure it has something to do with refraction of light through the water vapor on the mirror and in the air, the refractive properties of the sclera, etc. The eyes are glossy and wet, as opposed to skin and hair, which are matte and dry by comparison, even right out of the shower. Stands to reason that a glossy wet surface refracts light through water vapor, a reflective surface, and the reflection of water vapor differently than a matte, dry surface. That's my theory anyway. Or maybe it's just biotic corona. :D

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Dunno. I often see that sort of thing as well. I've heard it can be the result of nasty things like glaucoma but I don't have it, so just "one of those things" I suppose. Maybe it means we're a bit odd.

I get lots of other visual oddities, though; especially when it's dark and my eyes try to compensate for the poor light and as a result I often see flashes, sparkles and patterns, but I guess that's getting off the subject a bit.

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vometia wrote...

I get lots of other visual oddities, though; especially when it's dark and my eyes try to compensate for the poor light and as a result I often see flashes, sparkles and patterns, but I guess that's getting off the subject a bit.


I don't know. We're all talking about strange occular phenomenon, so I'd say it fits.

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vometia wrote...


I get lots of other visual oddities, though; especially when it's dark and my eyes try to compensate for the poor light and as a result I often see flashes, sparkles and patterns, but I guess that's getting off the subject a bit.


I get that too. When i was a kid i used to sort of make a game out of it when i realised i could chose the colour of the sparkles. So i used to lay in bed in the dark and imagine different colours and a few seconds later i'd get it flashing accross in the dark. Was kinda a fun way to relax lol.


As far as eye halo's i never noticed it but it could just be the same haze effect you get with fog. Like on a foggy night the street lights have a ring of light around them in the hazeyness so in a steamy bathroom after a shower the steam likely creates haze and the light from the mirror reflecting back to your eyes is distorted.

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As far as eye halo's i never noticed it but it could just be the same haze effect you get with fog. Like on a foggy night the street lights have a ring of light around them in the hazeyness so in a steamy bathroom after a shower the steam likely creates haze and the light from the mirror reflecting back to your eyes is distorted.


Well, it certainly looks the same -  hmm, I'll need someone else in the shower with me to check... 

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I've never experienced this phenomenon, but I'm sure it has something to do with refraction of light through the water vapor on the mirror and in the air, the refractive properties of the sclera, etc. The eyes are glossy and wet, as opposed to skin and hair, which are matte and dry by comparison, even right out of the shower. Stands to reason that a glossy wet surface refracts light through water vapor, a reflective surface, and the reflection of water vapor differently than a matte, dry surface. That's my theory anyway. Or maybe it's just biotic corona. :D


That sounds the most sensible explanation.... *shrugs*.  Would you expect the diameter of the halos to be the same regardless of the distance from the mirror?  Because, for me, they stay the same no matter how close or far from the mirror I am.  Pretty interesting that so many people don't get this... 

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Moondoggie wrote...

vometia wrote...


I get lots of other visual oddities, though; especially when it's dark and my eyes try to compensate for the poor light and as a result I often see flashes, sparkles and patterns, but I guess that's getting off the subject a bit.


I get that too. When i was a kid i used to sort of make a game out of it when i realised i could chose the colour of the sparkles. So i used to lay in bed in the dark and imagine different colours and a few seconds later i'd get it flashing accross in the dark. Was kinda a fun way to relax lol.


I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure that that is a trick that your Brain plays on itself when it is dark...kind of feeding itself information that really isn't there. I had a friend who worked in an Isolation Tank Spa and I hung out there a lot, because...hey...who doesn't want some free time in the Tank to see if they go all "Altered States", and a lot of people described that kind of visual phenomenon and there is no light inside those things.

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I never noticed that, really. Not even when there is vapor in the bath room.

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Hi there, this thread might be dead, but its still the top google result when searching for this phenomena. I am a university student taking an Atmospheric Radiation class where we are learning about interference and scattering of light. Two days ago I experienced the eye-halo phenomenon while in a bathroom in Vegas over the weekend. I have never seen it in my own bathroom mirror. My professor who is supposed to be an expert on this hasn't heard of it before, but we talked about it.

There are definitely still a few mysteries about this, but allow me to explain what I do understand. This is a "glory" type effect. Light coming straight at a foggy mirror is scattered in all directions by droplets floating in the air (steam), longer wavelengths scatter farther (red has a long wavelength). Then this scattered light is reflected back by the mirror. So its actually happening all over the mirror, but scattered light of all colors all reflected back looks like plain white light, the normal case. However, your eye is small so if you are sort of in the line of sight of the light source (doesn't have to be right behind you, but if the mirror can see like a light right above your shower opposite the mirror that's good, if you only have lights above the mirror it should not be as good, but still possible), you'll see the way its light is being scattered preferentially based on wavelength. It is an observer effect, has nothing to do with eye color, so a person with one totally identical but glass fake eye would only see the eye-glory in their working eye. Two people in there should only see glories in their own eyes, not each others.

Light is scattered in this way (Mie scattering) when the scatterers are close to the size of the wavelength. Since visible light has very tiny wavelengths, abnormally tiny steam droplets floating in the air may be what causes this. It's possible it also has to do with the size of the droplets on the mirror, but I'm not sure. A way to make droplets very small is to have small particles for them to condense on already in the air, this is known in the atmospheric science community as the "aerosol effect". Aerosol particles like smoke would help, so I wonder if those who have seen this are smokers or used an aerosol spray before taking the shower? A good experiment would be to smoke in the shower room right before taking the shower, which is what I did in Vegas that I don't normally do at home.

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AwesomeName wrote...

Does anyone know why your eyes appear to have halos around them when you look at your reflection in a foggy/steamy mirror?  The halos are quite subtle, and are usually white, but mine have been black lately. :/

If anyone hasn't noticed this effect, check in the mirror after you've had a shower.  You may notice it more at greater distances from the mirror.  I literally get this EVERY time.  I have no idea how this works, and I can't find any explanation through google.

EDIT: It basically looks like this, albeit more subtle.  (I must say, I'm rather frustrated that the only visualisation of this I could find wasn't on a scientific website)


at the very least, you have glowing eyes. see if you can hunt animals in the dark.

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Hi there, this thread might be dead, but its still the top google result when searching for this phenomena. I am a university student taking an Atmospheric Radiation class where we are learning about interference and scattering of light. Two days ago I experienced the eye-halo phenomenon while in a bathroom in Vegas over the weekend. I have never seen it in my own bathroom mirror. My professor who is supposed to be an expert on this hasn't heard of it before, but we talked about it.

There are definitely still a few mysteries about this, but allow me to explain what I do understand. This is a "glory" type effect. Light coming straight at a foggy mirror is scattered in all directions by droplets floating in the air (steam), longer wavelengths scatter farther (red has a long wavelength). Then this scattered light is reflected back by the mirror. So its actually happening all over the mirror, but scattered light of all colors all reflected back looks like plain white light, the normal case. However, your eye is small so if you are sort of in the line of sight of the light source (doesn't have to be right behind you, but if the mirror can see like a light right above your shower opposite the mirror that's good, if you only have lights above the mirror it should not be as good, but still possible), you'll see the way its light is being scattered preferentially based on wavelength. It is an observer effect, has nothing to do with eye color, so a person with one totally identical but glass fake eye would only see the eye-glory in their working eye. Two people in there should only see glories in their own eyes, not each others.

Light is scattered in this way (Mie scattering) when the scatterers are close to the size of the wavelength. Since visible light has very tiny wavelengths, abnormally tiny steam droplets floating in the air may be what causes this. It's possible it also has to do with the size of the droplets on the mirror, but I'm not sure. A way to make droplets very small is to have small particles for them to condense on already in the air, this is known in the atmospheric science community as the "aerosol effect". Aerosol particles like smoke would help, so I wonder if those who have seen this are smokers or used an aerosol spray before taking the shower? A good experiment would be to smoke in the shower room right before taking the shower, which is what I did in Vegas that I don't normally do at home.


Holy necro, batman!  This all sounds good to me.  Makes sense.

I've put the dark halos down to just the sheer amount of water on the mirror after a shower, but it definitely seems related to the glory effect (from a distance the darkness seems confined to the skin around the eyes, but once closer, all the skin on the face looks darker, until you get right up to the mirror and then you look a lot more normal).

Anyway... end of thread, methinks :)