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[shumworld]

Before I start. I need to point out that I'm straight and have nothing against ones right on who one choose to be with in the privacy of their own homes. There was a time when I questioned my sexuality, after having a long talk with my best friend (whose like a brother to me) who happens to be gay. I came to realize I'm a heterosexual.

Alright so now to the topic at hand. I wondered if there was another reason as to why the LIs (beyond Liara) are not available for both genders, beyond the ones we as a comunity discussed. After typing a post on DA2 about the idea Hawke having kids. I reflect back to the subject as to why homosexaulity is more welcomed in DA and not so much in ME.

I pondered for a moment until I came to realize that maybe... just maybe... BW left the window open for Shepard to have kids. Liara's race is capable of producing regaurdless of who their sexual partner will be. Plus this ME3 will be Shepard's final adventure. So possibly one of the ideas the writers might have to end Shepard's journey is the "choice" to have kids. So if my theory is true, I can only assume that BW does not want to exclude the oppurtunity for all players for Shep to be a parent.

I just wanted to share this thought. I appologize in advance if anyone took offense to my opinion and crossing my fingers for no flame war.

[AdmiralCheez]

I pondered for a moment until I came to realize that maybe... just maybe... BW left the window open for Shepard to have kids.

*facekeyboard*

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 10 avril 2011 - 11:43 .

[KawaiiKatie]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

*facekeyboard*

I prefer *headdesk* myself.

If Shepard can't be gay (unless she's female and in a relationship with Kelly Chambers) because Bioware wants to end Mass Effect 3 with Shepard having children, then the idea of having a customizable character will go right out the window. What if your Shepard doesn't want a romance? What if you have a female Shepard who entered a relationship with Kelly? Is the story going to force your Shepard to have children? I highly doubt that.

If there's a reason why male Shepard can't be gay, it's not because Bioware plans to force him to have children. And if Bioware does have plans to allow Shepard to reproduce, it simply won't be an option for same-sex couples. Welcome to life.

[J. Finley]

You're forgetting that Shep can't have kids with any other race he/she's allowed to romance, regardless of gender. Besides humans, of course.

Modifié par Jayman1337, 10 avril 2011 - 11:58 .

[nici2412]

I just want kids with Morinth, plz fix it Bioware:.(

[Amagoi]

It's not a bad idea about why they won't. I doubt it's the reason though. I don't think Bioware has ever given the PC the ability to have children aside from a potential story hook in Origins.

Plus if they really wanted to show Shep with children, I'm sure adoption is still around and available for same-sex couples. Miranada can't have children, and Jack may not be able to either. So yeah.. children seem unlikely in the near future for Shepard.

[Shadow_Soul]

Um, no.

Who are the LIs? Ashley, Liara, Kaidan, Tali, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Thane, Jacob and Garrus. (Well, Samara and Morinth are sorta romances, just not full blown romances...)

Who can have children with Shep? Liara, Ashley, Kaidan, Jack, Kelly and Jacob.

Who can not have children with Shep? Garrus, Tali, Miranda and Thane.

So only 6/10 of the LIs can have children with Shep. Plus the fact that Shep might be unable to have kids because she/he died. Also, add the mods people do, to have F/F and M/M romance. Plus, some Sheps don't have romances. Thus, it's not the reason.

[jlb524]

Wait...you have a Tali avatar.

Is this for real?

[Mr.House]

Shepard can't be gay because the ME team does not want to scare the shooter fans who are scared of gays.

[ADLegend21]

Mr.House wrote...

Shepard can't be gay because the ME team does not want to scare the shooter fans who are scared of gays.

Oh lord don't scare away the shooter fans they're our main demographic! /sarcasm.

[Gavinthelocust]

Until I get an explanation of how or if cross species breeding beyond Asari works this is wrong.

[didymos1120]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

And if Bioware does have plans to allow Shepard to reproduce, it simply won't be an option for same-sex couples.

Tell that to Miranda's father.  He managed it without even being in a couple at all.  Also: the tank-bred krogan would like to have a word with you about this whole "cloning" thing too.

[KawaiiKatie]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Shepard can't be gay because the ME team does not want to scare the shooter fans who are scared of gays.

Oh lord don't scare away the shooter fans they're our main demographic! /sarcasm.

*sigh* I wish the Mass Effect team would take a David Gaider approach to things...

The romances in the game are not for "the straight male gamer". They're
for everyone. We have a lot of fans, many of whom are neither straight
nor male, and they deserve no less attention.

Wouldn't that be awesome if applied to Mass Effect? If male Shepard could be gay, too? And it wouldn't hurt the "main demographic" at all! Shepard could still be the heterosexual hero of their games, but gay in mine! Please, Bioware? Pretty, pretty please?

[Kaiser Shepard]

I think, but am not entirely sure, that the word back then was that Mark van der Loo didn't want his likeness to be used in such a way, which I can understand. FemSheps probably can't be gay (aside from Liara) because both genders have to get the same amount of content.

[KawaiiKatie]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I think, but am not entirely sure, that the word back then was that Mark van der Loo didn't want his likeness to be used in such a way, which I can understand.

That excuse smacks me as the same "Mark Meer didn't want to record same-sex dialogue" nonsense. Not to mention, Shepard's likeness is variable!

FemSheps probably can't be gay (aside from Liara) because both genders have to get the same amount of content.

Kelly Chambers. So yes, FemSheps can have a same-sex love affair. It's highly suspect that male Shepard cannot do the same. <_<

[didymos1120]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I think, but am not entirely sure, that the word back then was that Mark van der Loo didn't want his likeness to be used in such a way, which I can understand.

I rather doubt that.  He's just some model hired for a face scan, not some big name who can enforce restrictions on how his/her likeness is used.

[didymos1120]

KawaiiKatie wrote...

That excuse smacks me as the same "Mark Meer didn't want to record same-sex dialogue" nonsense.

He certainly didn't seem to mind being a rather camp, bisexual, elven prostitute in DA2.  Or, you know, actually recording same-sex dialogue for ME1.

Modifié par didymos1120, 11 avril 2011 - 01:53 .

[Maugrim]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

I think, but am not entirely sure, that the word back then was that Mark van der Loo didn't want his likeness to be used in such a way, which I can understand. FemSheps probably can't be gay (aside from Liara) because both genders have to get the same amount of content.

That is pure grade A 100% made up BS.    And really easy to see through at that.  It'd be like all those male celebrities that pose for Playgirl and are "surprised" to find out that the supermajority of it's readership is gay men.    Many male models are perceived (unfairly and irrationally) as gay in the first place, if they really cared they wouldn't get into the business where homoerotic photo shoots are a guarantee.



Nothing gay about that no sir!

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 11 avril 2011 - 03:08 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

Keep your Dragon Age out of Mass Effect and vice-versa.

[KawaiiKatie]

didymos1120 wrote...

KawaiiKatie wrote...

That excuse smacks me as the same "Mark Meer didn't want to record same-sex dialogue" nonsense.

He certainly didn't seem to mind being a rather camp, bisexual, elven prostitute in DA2.  Or, you know, actually recording same-sex dialogue for ME1.

Exactly! Mark Meer actually recorded same-sex content for the first Mass Effect! Why do people forget this?




So, yeah, if anyone claims that same-sex content isn't included in Mass Effect because of Shepard's voice actors, likenesses, or... because of the possibility of Shepard's children.... is just wrong.

[Blacklash93]

ReconTeam wrote...

Keep your Dragon Age out of Mass Effect and vice-versa.

What does this have to do with Dragon Age?

[Gavinthelocust]

It's just the ME team not wanting to take risks, nothing else.
It's Bioware's flagship, they don't want anything that challenges anything so they play it safe. This would be excusable if they didn't add lesbians to the mix, then it just seems immature.

[J. Finley]

Wonder if this James Sanders guy is Bi. Surprised that hasn't been brought up yet.

[Gavinthelocust]

Also, leaving this here for the mental image of Shepard with Jethann voice.