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Endurium

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I wish people would stop confusing choice with fear regarding this issue. Using their logic, one could say gays are heterophobic. :P

Anyway, regarding the game I really don't care what moral avenue Bioware takes so long as I'm given a choice in the game. Respect is a two-way street.

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Endurium wrote...

I wish people would stop confusing choice with fear regarding this issue. Using their logic, one could say gays are heterophobic. :P

Anyway, regarding the game I really don't care what moral avenue Bioware takes so long as I'm given a choice in the game. Respect is a two-way street.


What do you mean by choice?  BW always gives the player the choice not to pursue any romance, straight or gay.

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Jayman1337 wrote...

Wonder if this James Sanders guy is Bi. Surprised that hasn't been brought up yet.



It came up on the Fight for the Love thread the minute he was revealed. :lol:
I hope he is bisexual, if he's a romance-optiobn at all. Fingers freaking crossed!

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 11 avril 2011 - 02:21 .


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Shepard won't have kids.

John: I got one thing, same as you.

House: Really? Apparently, you know me better than I know you.

John:
I know that limp. I know the empty ring finger. And that obsessive
nature of yours, that’s a big secret. You don’t risk jail and your
career just to save somebody who doesn’t want to be saved unless you got
something, anything, one thing. The reason normal people got wives and
kids and hobbies, whatever. That’s because they don’t got that one
thing that hits them that hard and that true. I got music, you got
this. The thing you think about all the time, the thing that keeps you
south of normal. Yeah, makes us great, makes us the best. All we miss
out on is everything else. No woman waiting at home after work with the
drink and the kiss, that ain’t gonna happen for us.


She's got one thing. She's obsessive about her goal, the defeat of the reapers. She risks jail and her career to save people who don't want to be saved. She thinks about it all the time. (Well, except when she's killing Pyjaks in Tuchanka.)

She'll have some romances throughout her life, sure, but no marriage, no kids, no boring, petty daily schedule, because that's when the heroine is replaced by just another faceless common person with a suck ass job and everything else.

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shumworld wrote...

Before I start. I need to point out that I'm straight and have nothing against ones right on who one choose to be with in the privacy of their own homes. There was a time when I questioned my sexuality, after having a long talk with my best friend (whose like a brother to me) who happens to be gay. I came to realize I'm a heterosexual.

Alright so now to the topic at hand. I wondered if there was another reason as to why the LIs (beyond Liara) are not available for both genders, beyond the ones we as a comunity discussed. After typing a post on DA2 about the idea Hawke having kids. I reflect back to the subject as to why homosexaulity is more welcomed in DA and not so much in ME.

I pondered for a moment until I came to realize that maybe... just maybe... BW left the window open for Shepard to have kids. 


It's the future, bro. I'm sure there are plenty of ways - especially given ready access to alien superscience - around that little gender issue for prospective parents, so long as parents are the same species and thus have compatible genetic material. 

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

Jayman1337 wrote...

Wonder if this James Sanders guy is Bi. Surprised that hasn't been brought up yet.



It came up on the Fight for the Love thread the minute he was revealed. :lol:
I hope he is bisexual, if he's a romance-optiobn at all. Fingers freaking crossed!


That explains it, lol I don't go anywhere near that thread. I wouldn't mind at all if he was,  wouldn't effect me and it would make a lot of people happy.

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 Shepard is GOD period. cant be gay i mean who even wants to know this seriously your just taking the ****** out of the game...... i hate aristocrats and POSERS!!!

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BioticTurian wrote...

 Shepard is GOD period. cant be gay i mean who even wants to know this seriously your just taking the ****** out of the game...... i hate aristocrats and POSERS!!!

*facepalm*

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BioticTurian wrote...

 i hate aristocrats and POSERS!!!


What does that even mean?  It has nothing to do with anyone here.

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Hmmm. Kids? Not really. This isn't Fable 3.

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Maybee Sheploo can't be gay because he's not gay? Hmm...

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KawaiiKatie

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Maybee Sheploo can't be gay because he's not gay? Hmm...


FemShep can be gay, but manShep can't? Double standard, much?

My male Shepard is gay. And until the choice is taken out of my hands and he's forced to be straight, my male Shepard will always be gay.

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It doesn't make sense. Not even with all the 'pre-defined character' nonsense. If FemShep has it within her characterization to be bisexual or interested in same-sex relations, then it should be within Dude Shep's characterization to be bisexual or interested in same-sex relations. It's just a sad excuse to allow for a double standard for a certain audience's fancy -- and a poor excuse at that.

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Jayman1337 wrote...

I wouldn't mind at all if he was,  wouldn't effect me and it would make a lot of people happy.


Neatly said! I wish more people had your attitude about same-sex relationships in ME3. :wub:

Modifié par KawaiiKatie, 11 avril 2011 - 03:43 .


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BioticTurian wrote...

 Shepard is GOD period. cant be gay i mean who even wants to know this seriously your just taking the ****** out of the game...... i hate aristocrats and POSERS!!!


I don't even know what this means

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shumworld wrote...

There was a time when I questioned my sexuality, after having a long talk with my best friend (whose like a brother to me) who happens to be gay. I came to realize I'm a heterosexual.


We don't need to know that, just type your point and leave your life stories for private chat or twitter.

Topic: At this point, I really don't care. Kids? I sure hope not. If BW wanted Shepard to have gay relationships (Liara doesn't count, she's unisexual. Yes, she is, you may think what you want, but that's the truth ladies) that would have done so in ME2, but they didn't. Hell, ME1 and 2 were supposed to have gay romances, but they were taken out both times. What does that tell you?

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Maybee Sheploo can't be gay because he's not gay? Hmm...


FemShep can be gay, but manShep can't? Double standard, much?

My male Shepard is gay. And until the choice is taken out of my hands and he's forced to be straight, my male Shepard will always be gay.

That's really gay.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

That's really gay.


Thank you, kind sir! :lol:

#44
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Pwener2313 wrote...
(Liara doesn't count, she's unisexual. Yes, she is, you may think what you want, but that's the truth ladies)

Aaaaand if the asari looked like this:

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would your argument still be valid?

Hell, ME1 and 2 were supposed to have gay romances, but they were taken out both times. What does that tell you?

Cowardice in the face of controversy, that's what it tells me.

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Pwener2313 wrote...

We don't need to know that, just type your point and leave your life stories for private chat or twitter.


Way to be supportive and understanding. That's not a life story, either. Far from it.




Topic: At this point, I really don't care. Kids? I sure hope not. If BW wanted Shepard to have gay relationships (Liara doesn't count, she's unisexual. Yes, she is, you may think what you want, but that's the truth ladies).

Liara is not unisexual. Asari are a mono-gendered female species. There's quite a huge difference.

That's the truth. Read the codex and failing that, consult your common sense of feminine identity (in terms of human perception).

Modifié par Blacklash93, 11 avril 2011 - 04:00 .


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Let us assume that Shepard is gay and wants to have kids. Then there are alternative ways to have kids. BW is perfectly able to come up with a solution. But I don't think BW itself is too fond of kids in games. So, the chances of that happening are zero to null.

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What about that? It's still unisexual, just with a man's face.

As for the whole gay thing being removed, I think it was marketing. We're still not at the point in society yet (I'd say decadence, but since I respect you Cheez, I won't).

Kaidan

Thane

Garrus

ect.

I don't think
 a gay/bisexual Shepard would have been good for sales. If FOX went ape**** over little skin reveals, imagine male x male sex. It would have been a disaster!

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AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Let us assume that Shepard is gay and wants to have kids. Then there are alternative ways to have kids. BW is perfectly able to come up with a solution. But I don't think BW itself is too fond of kids in games. So, the chances of that happening are zero to null.

Miranda was born from just her father's DNA. Anything is possible in the future.

Not that I care.

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Blacklash93 wrote...

Liara is not unisexual. Asari are a mono-gendered female species. There's quite a huge difference.

That's the truth. Read the codex and failing that, consult your common sense of feminine identity (in terms of human perception).


Well excuse me for making that small misconception.

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Well, Pwener, DAO didn't get much flak for it, so your argument is pretty much invalid.

My point about Liara was this: BOOBIES.