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[Pwener2313]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Miranda was born from just her father's DNA. Anything is possible in the future.

Not that I care.

My turn to be an ****.

WRONG! Miranda's DNA is composed of her father's and of other assorted females he chose. You should listen more closely to the dialog, you fail at *that*.

[Blacklash93]

Pwener2313 wrote...



What about that? It's still unisexual, just with a man's face.

Are you actually using this as an arugment?

The difference is that Asari don't have masculine features. They're curvy and feminine by every definition. They're not unisex. Also, bewbs.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 11 avril 2011 - 04:10 .

[Pwener2313]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, Pwener, DAO didn't get much flak for it, so your argument is pretty much invalid.

My point about Liara was this: BOOBIES.

Well played, specially for the boobies. But it'd be the same case if it was a dick instead. As for DA, it's practically an unknown game. I wouldn't even know it existed if I hadn't joined the forums. It would be like picking a fight with GTA's gay Tony. Nobody cares, and people pick the new stuff that grabs quick interest. Also, DA's sex scenes sucked.

Only clevage is shown

[didymos1120]

Pwener2313 wrote...

What about that? It's still unisexual, just with a man's face.
*snip*

That crude photoshop job might be relevant if only it had anything whatsoever to do with how the asari are actually depicted or what the Codex says about them:  "An all-female race, the asari reproduce through a form of parthenogenesis."

Liara's a girl.  End of story.

[MACharlie1]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Miranda was born from just her father's DNA. Anything is possible in the future.

Not that I care.

My turn to be an ****.

WRONG! Miranda's DNA is composed of her father's and of other assorted females he chose. You should listen more closely to the dialog, you fail at *that*.

I don't think Miranda ever specifies that the other half of the DNA came from women. For all we know, it could have come from another man. 

Modifié par MACharlie1, 11 avril 2011 - 04:13 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Miranda was born from just her father's DNA. Anything is possible in the future.

Not that I care.

My turn to be an ****.

WRONG! Miranda's DNA is composed of her father's and of other assorted females he chose. You should listen more closely to the dialog, you fail at *that*.

Miranda chastises her father for so "egotistical" that he used only his own DNA to create her. He modified his own genomes--she didn't have any "mother" DNA at all!

But, back to the topic at hand.... In the future Shepard lives in, there would be lots of ways for Shepard to obtain a child, if he or she wished to. Restricting same-sex content from male Shepards (again, female Shepards have KElly Chambers, a human female) on the argument that Shepard is supposed to have a kid at the end of the series is just flawed.

[Tazzmission]

shumworld wrote...

Before I start. I need to point out that I'm straight and have nothing against ones right on who one choose to be with in the privacy of their own homes. There was a time when I questioned my sexuality, after having a long talk with my best friend (whose like a brother to me) who happens to be gay. I came to realize I'm a heterosexual.

Alright so now to the topic at hand. I wondered if there was another reason as to why the LIs (beyond Liara) are not available for both genders, beyond the ones we as a comunity discussed. After typing a post on DA2 about the idea Hawke having kids. I reflect back to the subject as to why homosexaulity is more welcomed in DA and not so much in ME.

I pondered for a moment until I came to realize that maybe... just maybe... BW left the window open for Shepard to have kids. Liara's race is capable of producing regaurdless of who their sexual partner will be. Plus this ME3 will be Shepard's final adventure. So possibly one of the ideas the writers might have to end Shepard's journey is the "choice" to have kids. So if my theory is true, I can only assume that BW does not want to exclude the oppurtunity for all players for Shep to be a parent.

I just wanted to share this thought. I appologize in advance if anyone took offense to my opinion and crossing my fingers for no flame war.

so you dont want same sex romances because your straight? im not gay myself but that is probably by far the most bizzare thing i have heard. thats like me saying we should  not have fat people in there because im scrawny and thin

[Blacklash93]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Miranda was born from just her father's DNA. Anything is possible in the future.

Not that I care.

My turn to be an ****.

WRONG! Miranda's DNA is composed of her father's and of other assorted females he chose. You should listen more closely to the dialog, you fail at *that*.

I'm sensing some hostility, here.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 11 avril 2011 - 04:13 .

[Pwener2313]

Blacklash93 wrote...

The difference is that Asari don't have masculine features. They're curvy and feminine by every definition. They're not unisex. Also, bewbs.

Way to steal Cheez's statement, good for you. My point is, that they're fan service of the highest degree. Have you seen the Evolution comic with the female Turian? She looks just like a male Turian. The exterior doesn't matter, it what's in the inside. They are treated as females because society views them as females. I studied this in my psychology classes, don't go against it or I'll make you look like a fool, I won the same argument a few weeks ago.

[didymos1120]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Miranda was born from just her father's DNA. Anything is possible in the future.

Not that I care.

My turn to be an ****.

WRONG! Miranda's DNA is composed of her father's and of other assorted females he chose. You should listen more closely to the dialog, you fail at *that*.

Not quite accurate  Her DNA is almost entirely her father's.  A single X-chromosome is composed of some genes from various women, with the majority being made-up by his genetic material.

Modifié par didymos1120, 11 avril 2011 - 04:15 .

[Pwener2313]

[quote]Blacklash93 wrote...

[/quote]
I'm sensing some hostility, here.[/quote]

Nah, it's all cool bro.

Modifié par Pwener2313, 11 avril 2011 - 04:15 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Pwener2313 wrote...

As for DA, it's practically an unknown game.

WRONG.

Seriously, talk about western RPGs on a college campus, DAO will be brought up.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 11 avril 2011 - 04:16 .

[Blacklash93]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

The difference is that Asari don't have masculine features. They're curvy and feminine by every definition. They're not unisex. Also, bewbs.

Way to steal Cheez's statement, good for you. My point is, that they're fan service of the highest degree. Have you seen the Evolution comic with the female Turian? She looks just like a male Turian. The exterior doesn't matter, it what's in the inside. They are treated as females because society views them as females. I studied this in my psychology classes, don't go against it or I'll make you look like a fool, I won the same argument a few weeks ago.

Society views them as females because they look like and act like females. It's their sex and their gender role by human perception. They have everything that makes a woman a woman by our perception.

If you're attracted to Asari, you're attracted to women.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 11 avril 2011 - 04:19 .

[Pscyon]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Only clevage is shown

Wait what? You can't put the word "only" in front of "cleavage"

[Pwener2313]

didymos@: She still has femal DNA, that's what I wanted to pint out. He said she didn't.

Cheez@: That's your counter attack? Point is, ME was easir to pick on against then some game that takes place during the time where prostitution ran rampant and everyone had sex with everyone. It's all about the culture the game is set in.

[didymos1120]

Pwener2313 wrote...

They are treated as females because society views them as females.

By biological definition as well, the asari are female: google "parthenogenesis".  It ain't just the fact that they look like human women. 

[AdmiralCheez]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Cheez@: That's your counter attack? Point is, ME was easir to pick on against then some game that takes place during the time where prostitution ran rampant and everyone had sex with everyone. It's all about the culture the game is set in.

Well, everything else was pretty much bullsh*t.  I just pointed out that one of your claims was incorrect.

Anyway, ME is only an issue because Fox freaked out.  And only the Tea Party takes Fox seriously anymore.

[Pwener2313]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Society views them as females because they look like and act like females. It's their sex and their gender role by human perception.

If you're attracted to Asari, you're attracted to women.

You sir, get a cookie!



Your the first guy here to finally understand it. yes, we view them as female, yet they are not. That's why lesbian Shepards (most of them I assume) went to romance her.... him..... her? Wathever.

[didymos1120]

Pwener2313 wrote...

didymos@: She still has femal DNA, that's what I wanted to pint out. He said she didn't.

There is no such thing as "female" DNA.  If you have two X chromosomes, no matter the source, you're a female.  Miranda's dad could have just had two copies of his X chromosome put into her genome, and she'd still be "all girl".  For that matter, he could have cobbled together a second X using genes donated from other men. Same result: baby girl.

[AdmiralCheez]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Your the first guy here to finally understand it. yes, we view them as female, yet they are not. That's why lesbian Shepards (most of them I assume) went to romance her.... him..... her? Wathever.

Ding ding ding!

Some FemSheps are attracted to boobies = Shepard can be gay.

I win.

[Pwener2313]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, everything else was pretty much bullsh*t.  I just pointed out that one of your claims was incorrect.

Anyway, ME is only an issue because Fox freaked out.  And only the Tea Party takes Fox seriously anymore.

Exactly, it was *only* FOX. Odds are that others would have taken interest in bashing BW/ME if it had featured homosexual relationships. I'll always see Kaidan as a closet case who is secretly in love with my Shepard though. He really needs to get out of that closet. as for Kelly, I reall don't get why they included her as an option for emshep. Test case for ME3?

[Tazzmission]

Pwener2313 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Well, everything else was pretty much bullsh*t.  I just pointed out that one of your claims was incorrect.

Anyway, ME is only an issue because Fox freaked out.  And only the Tea Party takes Fox seriously anymore.

Exactly, it was *only* FOX. Odds are that others would have taken interest in bashing BW/ME if it had featured homosexual relationships. I'll always see Kaidan as a closet case who is secretly in love with my Shepard though. He really needs to get out of that closet. as for Kelly, I reall don't get why they included her as an option for emshep. Test case for ME3?

i cant stand fox news. there a bunch of tools. as far as same sex romances go i dont care if its in

[Blacklash93]

Pwener2313 wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Society views them as females because they look like and act like females. It's their sex and their gender role by human perception.

If you're attracted to Asari, you're attracted to women.

You sir, get a cookie!



Your the first guy here to finally understand it. yes, we view them as female, yet they are not. That's why lesbian Shepards (most of them I assume) went to romance her.... him..... her? Wathever.

We started this argument with you saying Liara doesn't count as a woman.

I'm saying to a human she does, regardless of what you think of her true gender, thus she is basically a F/F romance.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 11 avril 2011 - 04:27 .

[Pwener2313]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Ding ding ding!

Some FemSheps are attracted to boobies = Shepard can be gay.

I win.

Not exactly.....

You, "the player", views your Shepard romancing Liara as evidence of her being gay, but that's not how BW and the game sees it like. You define Shepard, but not make up who he/she is. The game sees her as a monosexual race, being neither male or female.

If that were the case, then why can't you get the hots for Miranda or Ashley?

[Blacklash93]

Pwener2313 wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Ding ding ding!

Some FemSheps are attracted to boobies = Shepard can be gay.

I win.

Not exactly.....

You, "the player", views your Shepard romancing Liara as evidence of her being gay, but that's not how BW and the game sees it like. You define Shepard, but not make up who he/she is. The game sees her as a monosexual race, being neither male or female.

If that were the case, then why can't you get the hots for Miranda or Ashley?

Because they're straight.

Shepard is interested in women if she romances Liara. That's how humans view Asari. Thus she can be a lesbian.

And I do make up who Shepard is. There is plenty to define about him/her.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 11 avril 2011 - 04:32 .