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The Howe is Strong - Nathaniel Needs Love Too Thread, DA2 Version


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Rumpeline wrote...

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In another try to reactivate this forum, please find below a cool picture I found at DeviantArt - I love it :wub:

http://xtrix-kittyx....llery/#/d3l82ox


Nice! I was thinking that Nate would have been so great for the friendship/rivalry romance system. He can be quite sweet when he wants to be, but he also has a darker side. I think he would be equally hot, either way.

Oh well, I guess it wasn't meant to be...Image IPB




Yep, I also think he would be great for the romance system. He is definitely an honorable man, so he would have had a problem with rude and cruel behaviour or blood magic. On the other hand he also knows that sometimes you have to do... well, what you have to do :bandit:

Such a pity...:(




Seriously, yes. Talk about a missed opportunity. Or, perhaps the powers that be are saving him for DA3...?

A girl's gotta dream. <3

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Hello! I have seen this thread many times but have not popped in. When Awakenings came out, I actually liked Nate more than Anders. A few people asked how I could possibly choose Nate over Anders?

Now, looking back. That was actually some good foresight. It was great seeing him in DA 2. Especially when he pulled the move with the bow in the Deep Roads. XD Loved it! I hope we see more Nate in DA 3. :)

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Regarding Nates appearance in DA2: Noone mentioned his "Temmerin! Good Man!..." yet. That was just so Nate-y!
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Regarding Nates appearance in DA2: Noone mentioned his "Temmerin! Good Man!..." yet. That was just so Nate-y!
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That's true. I just replayed this quest and had to smile :)

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BTW: I found a new Nathaniel picture at Devian Art and wanted to share it with you:
http://thesilverrave...llery/#/d417oeg

I am still hoping that someone is going to make some kind of Nate tribute video, I haven't seen one on Youtube so far... :-(

I also think that keeping this forum alive might help to show Bioware that we really want Nate to be in DA3. The Cullen forum is also very active, and I learnt that they did the same for Anders last yer. And where is he now...? :-)

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Hello! I have seen this thread many times but have not popped in. When Awakenings came out, I actually liked Nate more than Anders. A few people asked how I could possibly choose Nate over Anders?

Now, looking back. That was actually some good foresight. It was great seeing him in DA 2. Especially when he pulled the move with the bow in the Deep Roads. XD Loved it! I hope we see more Nate in DA 3. :)


Yes, his "bow sequence" was definitely great. And I personally think he looks better in DA2 than he did in DAA :wub:

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I think Nate is quite popular - many guys like him too. The Anders fangirls are just more vocal about it. What can I say, we're a broody bunch!
Personally I liked Nates Awakening looks better - but either way, we need MOAR NATE!

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 Nice, the thread lives ;-)

Nate definitely improved himself in DA2 - not sure what his VA had wrong with his voice but still, it was the same VA and I'll take what I can get.

I'd love to see Nate given a larger role in DA3 (in fact its probably the only thing that might convince me to buy it.)

A pic to celebrate the new life in this thread:

A commission from the talented Aimo. :

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Edit - woops she has uploaded it..what a good memory I have.  Edited text to suit my new information.

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D'aaaw... Dalish archer is my current Awakenings playtrough. If only...

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rapunzel696 wrote...

I think Nate is quite popular - many guys like him too. The Anders fangirls are just more vocal about it. What can I say, we're a broody bunch!
Personally I liked Nates Awakening looks better - but either way, we need MOAR NATE!

I like Anders too, but I can't be as vocal as others regarding him...or as vocal about things like this in general. Dunno why. 

So this is one more post to try and convince Bioware that he has enough fans to necessitate him appearing in DA3.... ^_^

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Gnas wrote...

Hello! I have seen this thread many times but have not popped in. When Awakenings came out, I actually liked Nate more than Anders. A few people asked how I could possibly choose Nate over Anders?

Now, looking back. That was actually some good foresight. It was great seeing him in DA 2. Especially when he pulled the move with the bow in the Deep Roads. XD Loved it! I hope we see more Nate in DA 3. :)


No one has ever asked me that, mainly because I am not an especially vocal fan about any of the characters of whom I am a fan, however it's a very interesting question.  To me, the reason I liked Nate more was because he came off as a lot more...genuine, I suppose would be the word.  Which is not to discredit Anders, but I always got the vibe from him, even in Awakening, that his humor was a product of his insecurities, a defense mechanism very similar to Alistair's.  He was lovable, certainly, but he was pretty much untouchable because everything was a joke to him so he could avoid dealing with his real issues. 

Nate was The Unfunny Guy (which was played to hilarious effect, well played Bioware) and therefore much less cuddly, but he was also very up front and straight forward about basically everything.  He confronts his problems head on right from the beginning, although his attack isn't exactly aimed in the right direction initially.  He didn't run from persecution, he challenged it by returning to Ferelden and going after the person he felt had wronged him.  Later he is able to resolve his issues (anger, misplaced faith, daddy issues, etc.) for the most part because he faced up to them instead of deflecting them.  Granted, he has a lot more room to do that than Anders since Anders's problems stem from much larger and more complex societal issues, but I still feel that, on a personal level, Nathaniel deals with his problems in a healthier, more honest way.            

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

Gnas wrote...

Hello! I have seen this thread many times but have not popped in. When Awakenings came out, I actually liked Nate more than Anders. A few people asked how I could possibly choose Nate over Anders?

Now, looking back. That was actually some good foresight. It was great seeing him in DA 2. Especially when he pulled the move with the bow in the Deep Roads. XD Loved it! I hope we see more Nate in DA 3. :)


No one has ever asked me that, mainly because I am not an especially vocal fan about any of the characters of whom I am a fan, however it's a very interesting question.  To me, the reason I liked Nate more was because he came off as a lot more...genuine, I suppose would be the word.  Which is not to discredit Anders, but I always got the vibe from him, even in Awakening, that his humor was a product of his insecurities, a defense mechanism very similar to Alistair's.  He was lovable, certainly, but he was pretty much untouchable because everything was a joke to him so he could avoid dealing with his real issues. 

Nate was The Unfunny Guy (which was played to hilarious effect, well played Bioware) and therefore much less cuddly, but he was also very up front and straight forward about basically everything.  He confronts his problems head on right from the beginning, although his attack isn't exactly aimed in the right direction initially.  He didn't run from persecution, he challenged it by returning to Ferelden and going after the person he felt had wronged him.  Later he is able to resolve his issues (anger, misplaced faith, daddy issues, etc.) for the most part because he faced up to them instead of deflecting them.  Granted, he has a lot more room to do that than Anders since Anders's problems stem from much larger and more complex societal issues, but I still feel that, on a personal level, Nathaniel deals with his problems in a healthier, more honest way.            


Agree with what you've said.   I will have to argue the 'unfunny guy' thing though, Nate's hilarious! :P


Oghren: The whole "quiet and stoic" thing must get you a lot of action, huh?

Nathaniel: I take you are an admirer, Oghren?

Oghren: What? No! No, well not unless--no!

Nathaniel: Good. Then I needn't worry about getting too drunk at camp.

Oghren: Heh. Okay, I like you. Just not in that way.

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Agree with what you've said.   I will have to argue the 'unfunny guy' thing though, Nate's hilarious! :P


Oghren: The whole "quiet and stoic" thing must get you a lot of action, huh?

Nathaniel: I take you are an admirer, Oghren?

Oghren: What? No! No, well not unless--no!

Nathaniel: Good. Then I needn't worry about getting too drunk at camp.

Oghren: Heh. Okay, I like you. Just not in that way.


Hee! One of my favorite Nate banters!  ;)

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I think Nate is quite popular - many guys like him too. The Anders fangirls are just more vocal about it. What can I say, we're a broody bunch!
Personally I liked Nates Awakening looks better - but either way, we need MOAR NATE!


Quite true - Nate is my husband's favorite character in DA:A because he faced his issues head on, admits that he was wrong about this father, and acts honorably in just about everything.

I adore Nate for these reasons as well. Though it doesn't hurt that he's sexy as hell, too.

Regarding Nate's looks: I'm am simply thankful that his appearance translated well during the transition between DA:A and DA2. And that he had the same voice actor. Love that husky voice... :wub: Many other characters did not fare as well, as we know. :sick:

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Avilia wrote...
Agree with what you've said.   I will have to argue the 'unfunny guy' thing though, Nate's hilarious! :P


Oghren: The whole "quiet and stoic" thing must get you a lot of action, huh?

Nathaniel: I take you are an admirer, Oghren?

Oghren: What? No! No, well not unless--no!

Nathaniel: Good. Then I needn't worry about getting too drunk at camp.

Oghren: Heh. Okay, I like you. Just not in that way.


Lol, yes, he does have a subtle, dry sense sense of humor.  I was referring more to his generally stoic attitude and the Anders banters where he gets to be the straight man. 

Anders: I'm fond of the Howes!  I'm also fond of the Whys, the Whos, and the Whats! :D

Nathaniel: How clever. <_<

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esoterican wrote...

Avilia wrote...

Agree with what you've said.   I will have to argue the 'unfunny guy' thing though, Nate's hilarious! :P


Oghren: The whole "quiet and stoic" thing must get you a lot of action, huh?

Nathaniel: I take you are an admirer, Oghren?

Oghren: What? No! No, well not unless--no!

Nathaniel: Good. Then I needn't worry about getting too drunk at camp.

Oghren: Heh. Okay, I like you. Just not in that way.


Hee! One of my favorite Nate banters!  ;)

*giggles* I want to see a hammered Nate!

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

Avilia wrote...
Agree with what you've said.   I will have to argue the 'unfunny guy' thing though, Nate's hilarious! :P


Oghren: The whole "quiet and stoic" thing must get you a lot of action, huh?

Nathaniel: I take you are an admirer, Oghren?

Oghren: What? No! No, well not unless--no!

Nathaniel: Good. Then I needn't worry about getting too drunk at camp.

Oghren: Heh. Okay, I like you. Just not in that way.


Lol, yes, he does have a subtle, dry sense sense of humor.  I was referring more to his generally stoic attitude and the Anders banters where he gets to be the straight man. 

Anders: I'm fond of the Howes!  I'm also fond of the Whys, the Whos, and the Whats! :D

Nathaniel: How clever. <_<


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Yes, his "bow sequence" was definitely great. And I personally think he looks better in DA2 than he did in DAA ../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png



When I first saw Nate, I thought he come into his own. He accepted his place in the Grey Wardens and now is in a place where he can do so much good. I thought he was hot in DA:A and in DA2, he's even better. :D



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No one has ever asked me that, mainly because I am not an especially vocal fan about any
of the characters of whom I am a fan, however it's a very interesting
question.  To me, the reason I liked Nate more was because he came off
as a lot more...genuine, I suppose would be the word. 


I like Anders face and voice but his actions, those are where I have problems with the character. I did like Anders as a character in DA:A, he was so snarky. But Nate, well, tall, dark, handsome, with that litle bit of arrogance. Yeah. He was awesomen. :wub:

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Agree with what you've said.   I will have to argue the 'unfunny guy' thing though, Nate's hilarious! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]


Nate did have some really great lines with Oghren. :D

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esoterican wrote...

Ineffable Igor wrote...

Avilia wrote...
Agree with what you've said.   I will have to argue the 'unfunny guy' thing though, Nate's hilarious! :P


Oghren: The whole "quiet and stoic" thing must get you a lot of action, huh?

Nathaniel: I take you are an admirer, Oghren?

Oghren: What? No! No, well not unless--no!

Nathaniel: Good. Then I needn't worry about getting too drunk at camp.

Oghren: Heh. Okay, I like you. Just not in that way.


Lol, yes, he does have a subtle, dry sense sense of humor.  I was referring more to his generally stoic attitude and the Anders banters where he gets to be the straight man. 

Anders: I'm fond of the Howes!  I'm also fond of the Whys, the Whos, and the Whats! :D

Nathaniel: How clever. <_<


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Totally in my favorites already. :D  I have a great weakness for bad puns and deadpan snarkery.

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

esoterican wrote...

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Lol, yes, he does have a subtle, dry sense sense of humor.  I was referring more to his generally stoic attitude and the Anders banters where he gets to be the straight man. 

Anders: I'm fond of the Howes!  I'm also fond of the Whys, the Whos, and the Whats! :D

Nathaniel: How clever. <_<


*Snip*

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Totally in my favorites already. :D  I have a great weakness for bad puns and deadpan snarkery.


Ah, you have good taste! ;)

This thread is seriously in need of more Nate pics. Since I can't draw well I'll be needing to check out my screenshots folder...

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*Rummages* Aha! From the original Nate thread, not sure who the uploader was, but I liked it so much I saved it. Whoever caught that expression deserves internet cookies.

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The man's got passion! <3

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Eyebrow emoting at its finest ;-)

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Nate does tend to play straight man to Anders' comedian. I was thinking about it on the bus (as you do) and from what I could remember (bearing in mind I haven't played DA for a long time) their banter isn't very friendly.

I used to think they might have been friends but considering it now, I doubt it. Without checking (which I will do when I get home from work) the Nate/Anders banter is always combatative. Unlike the banter with other companions (ignoring Velanna for now). Might have something to do with their very different temperaments or just Anders deflecting.

Well, back to pretending I care about work..

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Avilia wrote...

Eyebrow emoting at its finest ;-)

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This sort of goes without saying, but he is sexy.  Damn sexy.

Not making him romancable was Bioware's cruelest act of trolling.

Edit: Also, that shot needs to be used for a "Howe you doin'?" icon and/or banner.  It is quite literally perfect.

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