I'm looking at doing one of two ways.
1) Take the Widow on the Collector ship. Rely on the Locust for a backup weapon.
2) Take shotgun training on the Collector ship. I don't like shotguns, but it'd be nice to have the scimitar + cryo ammo for missions that have a lot of husks. I'd use the Viper as my primary weapon in this case.
Which is the better way to play an Infiltrator
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:52
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I have tried the shotgun method, it didn't work well for me, but my gaming style is always sniper, ranged is what I'm best at...up close I'm hopeless.
Personally I LOVE the Widow and yep, I use the Locust for mid and close range (great gun)....when it comes to the Husks, I use the Locust with cryo, but if things get too tight with them, I usually take a squaddie with grenades (Zaheed/Kasumi) or pull out the Electric Arc Gun.
Personally I LOVE the Widow and yep, I use the Locust for mid and close range (great gun)....when it comes to the Husks, I use the Locust with cryo, but if things get too tight with them, I usually take a squaddie with grenades (Zaheed/Kasumi) or pull out the Electric Arc Gun.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:56
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Funny I've been going over this question for the past week now.
Got so many play through on the collector ship with both the Widow and GPS , that I'm right back where i started not knowing which to choose.
So far the Widow has yielded the best results by far; I use the Phalanx /Locust/Widow with dominate as bonus power. The Phalanx is a nifty alternative to wasting the Widow's precious, precious ammo. I use Incinerate to deal with armour and now that I've got Garrus's Armour piercing i might go back to the Carnifex to deal with armour.
I've been running a "Nostalgia" game , Tali /Garrus with Grunt & Katsumi to fill in on the more difficult missions. And so far so good. It boils down to Crowd control above all else. I think that, because of this ,Husks might be a problem later on. If you're primarily concerned with Husks the Widow might not be your best bet.
That said i don't think shotguns will be any better : Sniper rifles are better at piercing armour , which you will need to do in order to deal with husks. You'll need some Incendiary/armour piercing ammo to do that anyways.
Got so many play through on the collector ship with both the Widow and GPS , that I'm right back where i started not knowing which to choose.
So far the Widow has yielded the best results by far; I use the Phalanx /Locust/Widow with dominate as bonus power. The Phalanx is a nifty alternative to wasting the Widow's precious, precious ammo. I use Incinerate to deal with armour and now that I've got Garrus's Armour piercing i might go back to the Carnifex to deal with armour.
I've been running a "Nostalgia" game , Tali /Garrus with Grunt & Katsumi to fill in on the more difficult missions. And so far so good. It boils down to Crowd control above all else. I think that, because of this ,Husks might be a problem later on. If you're primarily concerned with Husks the Widow might not be your best bet.
That said i don't think shotguns will be any better : Sniper rifles are better at piercing armour , which you will need to do in order to deal with husks. You'll need some Incendiary/armour piercing ammo to do that anyways.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:04
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Always go shotgun...shotguns are the best weapons in the game!
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:06
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Saaziel wrote...
So far the Widow has yielded the best results by far; I use the Phalanx /Locust/Widow with dominate as bonus power. The Phalanx is a nifty alternative to wasting the Widow's precious, precious ammo.
Yep the Phalanx can almost be used to snipe, I have found, if worse comes to worse...gotta love the laser targeting...
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:20
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Slap Cryo Ammo on the Predator Heavy Pistol and you should be fine with husks.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:26
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The Geth Shotgun has amazing synergy with cloak. If you start charging it and then cloak you can release it, fully charged, and remain cloaked to escape to cover.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:27
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I used to think that taking anything other than the Widow with the Infiltrator was an inherently stupid decision, as it prevented you from getting the most out of your sniper time dilation. It turns out I was completely wrong. I don't know that any way is inherently superior to the other, but I vastly prefer the shotgun Infiltrator, especially with the Geth Plasma Shotgun added to the equation.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 05:55
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I personally don't like the GPS for up close and personal fighting. For that I want the Claymore or my preference the Eviscerater, which I just took though on a Shottie Infiltrator. If you take Assassination Cloak an Eviscerater will one shot at point blank a standard enemy and you can get 2 shots off before cloak ends, allowing you to kill two close enemies from one cloak. If you don't mind mixing Biotic ammo in, add warp ammo for the little extra umph to your damage, while not taking away from Cloaked movement. The secondary gun I would take would be the Tempest, not the Locust, because the Tempest is better up close and personal. Viper is your mid to long range gun, for thinning the herd or killing the tougher guys before you start shotgunning.
Both style Infiltrators are fun, but I had more with the Shotgun, but it will come down to personal play preference. If you have already done a Widow Infiltrator, then definitely try a shotty one.
Both style Infiltrators are fun, but I had more with the Shotgun, but it will come down to personal play preference. If you have already done a Widow Infiltrator, then definitely try a shotty one.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 09:25
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I really like the Shotguns in this game, but for some reason I don't like the shotgun infiltrator. I like Shotguns on the Sentinel, Adept, Engineer, Soldier and obviously the sweet Claymore for the Vanguard but when it comes to Infiltrators I pickt the Widow and use the Tempest for cloaking and shooting enemies in the face at close range. Way more fun for me. Enemy behaviour can also be annoying when you are cloaked.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 09:35
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Shotguns are good. But they're just a tad too popular on these forums. I prefer Widow for the infiltrator.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 10:04
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I have both. The Widow one is the real Sniper IMHO. An Assassin.
edit: also, if you read Locust's backstory/description (it is used by assassins and hitmen), then the Widow + Locust is a great combo even from RP view.
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The GPS + Viper is kinda like invisible Agent. Versatile.
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I can't tell which one if more fun, they are both really fun to play.
Infiltrator is the only class like that, with other classes I have a clear-cut favourite weapons loadout/build character.
Claymore Vanguard + Slam
Revenant Soldier + nothing
Eviscerator Sentinel + Stasis
GPS Adept + Stasis
Katana Engineer + Neural Shock
edit: also, if you read Locust's backstory/description (it is used by assassins and hitmen), then the Widow + Locust is a great combo even from RP view.
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The GPS + Viper is kinda like invisible Agent. Versatile.
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I can't tell which one if more fun, they are both really fun to play.
Infiltrator is the only class like that, with other classes I have a clear-cut favourite weapons loadout/build character.
Claymore Vanguard + Slam
Revenant Soldier + nothing
Eviscerator Sentinel + Stasis
GPS Adept + Stasis
Katana Engineer + Neural Shock
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 11:07
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Okay, I know this not really constructive as per se asked for in this topic, but I simply have to say this:
Why are people asking what is the best, worst, badassest, etc. pp. thing blah blah???
There is no best anything. Period. End of discussion. All thatalike questions answered!
On the question on how those playstyles work out and what advantages and disadvantages they have, there are plenty guides around. Just look in here social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/2749272
And you will find anything you need!
Why are people asking what is the best, worst, badassest, etc. pp. thing blah blah???
There is no best anything. Period. End of discussion. All thatalike questions answered!
On the question on how those playstyles work out and what advantages and disadvantages they have, there are plenty guides around. Just look in here social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/2749272
And you will find anything you need!
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 11:18
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Not really, guides usually focus on one build that gets pimped up; OP asked for opinion on two different builds, and which one people prefer.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 11:34
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Sparroww wrote...
Slap Cryo Ammo on the Predator Heavy Pistol and you should be fine with husks.
I would like to repeat this recommendation. Well not repeat exactly. It works with the Locust too. Cryo Ammo + whatever = dead husks. They have very little armor compared to their amount of health. But getting frozen instakills them. That's what makes Cryo Ammo so incredibly useful against them.
So really you're not going to be in any situation you can't handle if you pick the Widow. But you are going to have the most interesting sniper experience.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 11:49
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Go shotgun; but take a real shotgun; Eviscerator, Katana or Scimitar. The GPS is great for damage and Cloak but terrible with ammo powers because it has no 8 pellets like all the other shotguns...personally I like the Katana the most for the Infiltrator...
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:18
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Kronner wrote...
Not really, guides usually focus on one build that gets pimped up; OP asked for opinion on two different builds, and which one people prefer.
He did ask what is the better way to play an Infiltrator.
How can we answer said question if he is ultimately the person that has to play? All we can do is provide information on how an infiltrator can be played like and ultimately he is the one to decide what he likes best.
I may very well give him my opinion, but I am not the one playing for him, he's doing that. So if I, and several other people, say that we like for example the CQC Infiltrator with the Shotgun and he ends up not liking it, what good have we done?
There are so much ways, builds, aggression-levels someone can play, that an objective answer is simply not feasible, yet alone an appropriate answer as we can't know what he'd like in the end.
All we can do is provide him with informations, like those compiled guides, so he can look up hints and strategies and he will decide for himself what seems the best for himself. And if he doesn't like those builds per se, he will at least have enough ideas and examples on how to plan his own style and enjoy that one.
We may be the Encyclopedia Mass Effectia, but when did an encyclopedia ever told you what food you'd like most for example?
As I see it, there are currently 4 basic set-ups on how to play an Infiltrator:
-Longrange Infiltrator with a more passive aggression, aka background sniper picking of targets from "safe" distance+Tactical Cloak for Damage Boost primarily
-Infiltrator fighting a similar way in closer distance up to midrange, possibly with Assault Rifles and Non-Widow Sniper Rifle for more variety in engagements+Tactical Cloak for Damage Boost and Panic Button
-Flanking Infiltrator with variable weapon loadout cornering enemies+Tactical Cloak for flanking manouvres primarily
-CQC Infiltrator with a more aggressive way of handling battles+Tactical Cloak for manouvring and Damage Boost plus Panic Button.
Each playstyle can furthermore vary greatly depending on skill-builds and merge with other playstyles as the user seem fit.
I don't see how an answer could be anymore helpfull other than being an unlikely lucky guess and hitting the TOs preferables on-spot, but I dare say chances for this to happen are low, hence I don't rely on such answers and don't want others to rely on such.
But I can telly you I prefer the Longrange Widow Sniper with occasional flanking and Damage Dealing build. It is effective and if correctly played efficient.
If that sounds interesting, I can always tell more, but I'll leave it here for now to your own judgement.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:24
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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Kronner wrote...
Not really, guides usually focus on one build that gets pimped up; OP asked for opinion on two different builds, and which one people prefer.
He did ask what is the better way to play an Infiltrator.
How can we answer said question if he is ultimately the person that has to play? All we can do is provide information on how an infiltrator can be played like and ultimately he is the one to decide what he likes best.
Yeah, but the potential discussion may help him/her in creating his/her own opinion. Frankly, there have been some stupid threads lately, this one is pretty much OK imho.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:31
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Which is why I genuinely want to help by providing as concentrated information as I can.
After all, the ultimat goal has to be getting him to join the Claymore Vanguard Fanclub if he ain't already in, right?
Long life the brick with a barrel that looks suspiciously like a G11!
After all, the ultimat goal has to be getting him to join the Claymore Vanguard Fanclub if he ain't already in, right?
Long life the brick with a barrel that looks suspiciously like a G11!
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:38
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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Which is why I genuinely want to help by providing as concentrated information as I can.
After all, the ultimat goal has to be getting him to join the Claymore Vanguard Fanclub if he ain't already in, right?
Long life the brick with a barrel that looks suspiciously like a G11!
Oh damn, I just googled G11 - it really is similar.
(sorry for off-topic)
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:47
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Kronner wrote...
Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...
Which is why I genuinely want to help by providing as concentrated information as I can.
After all, the ultimat goal has to be getting him to join the Claymore Vanguard Fanclub if he ain't already in, right?
Long life the brick with a barrel that looks suspiciously like a G11!
Oh damn, I just googled G11 - it really is similar.
(sorry for off-topic)
LOL, there's even one with a bayonet and a scope - Claymore with bayonet would be cool, but scopes? Hell no!
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:51
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lazuli wrote...
I used to think that taking anything other than the Widow with the Infiltrator was an inherently stupid decision, as it prevented you from getting the most out of your sniper time dilation. It turns out I was completely wrong.
I used to feel that way too but this last run I finally took asault rifle training and have been using the Viper. I used to think the Viper sucked, but with a little practice and cryo ammo it is a damn potent weapon. It's not weak, either. It can shred scions about as fast as the Widow can. It's ridiculous how easily I've been able to lock enemies down with it, annihilating several squads before they could even get out of their spawn zone.
The assault rifles I've actually found aren't that great. Not on Infiltrator, anyway. I'm definitely going to try a shotgun next game.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:52
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I find it harder to use than the Widow and less satisfying though. You don't just take one shot, you have to stay out of cover longer and keep shooting while taking the Viper's annoying kick into account.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 12:56
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I prefer the CQC style to be honest, I think the Widow only really comes into it's own when fighting super heavy monsters like say the Thresher or Praetorians because I feel as if usually the Widow is overkill (talking about Normal/Veteran difficulty here, I was never huge into Hardcore or Insanity, although I have played those modes before) against most targets.
I actually prefer the Mantis the most in the sniper rifles, as I tend to take pot shots at bad guys before closing in and overwhelming them up close via flanks. I just find those sort of tactics to be viscerally more exciting.
I actually prefer the Mantis the most in the sniper rifles, as I tend to take pot shots at bad guys before closing in and overwhelming them up close via flanks. I just find those sort of tactics to be viscerally more exciting.
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Posté 11 avril 2011 - 01:02
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Saphra Deden wrote...
lazuli wrote...
I used to think that taking anything other than the Widow with the Infiltrator was an inherently stupid decision, as it prevented you from getting the most out of your sniper time dilation. It turns out I was completely wrong.
I used to feel that way too but this last run I finally took asault rifle training and have been using the Viper. I used to think the Viper sucked, but with a little practice and cryo ammo it is a damn potent weapon. It's not weak, either. It can shred scions about as fast as the Widow can. It's ridiculous how easily I've been able to lock enemies down with it, annihilating several squads before they could even get out of their spawn zone.
The assault rifles I've actually found aren't that great. Not on Infiltrator, anyway. I'm definitely going to try a shotgun next game.
The Mattock is Ace with the Infiltrator.
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