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#101
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RenownedRyan wrote...
Mass Effect MMO?  My response.


I was about to comment about the depressing lack of "NO" responses like yours.

Seriously no developer has the resources to maintain two large, halfway decent MMOs, while producing other games. Not unless Bioware has been secretly breeding developers in an underground cave deep in the forests of Canada that is...

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Phaedon wrote...

An MMORPG/TPS hybrid, if done right would be awesome.


If you know how to design the server architecture for such a beast you would have guaranteed employment for a long time. There is a reason these are rare to nonexistent.

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I am surprised that he said this. BioWare is freaking out about SW:TOR. Very high level people were fired from that project because it is over budget and has gotten behind on schedule so many times. That doesn't mean that SW:TOR won't be awesome. But you would think they would be careful talking about this space until they see how SW:TOR does.


Link?

Also, Fired or laid-off?


Sorry, I missed this because of work I had to do yesterday.  

Fired.  And no link, because there was no press.  I just happen to be in circles where I know of the incident.  Take that (from a random internet person) for what it is worth.

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Dean_the_Young wrote...

From my view, the hardest part of such a MMO would be designing how it's played. Mass Effect is tied to shooting, and it seems like it would be hard to make a good-to-play MMO about it that could incorporate that sort of thing. You certainly couldn't have anyone and everyone pausing the game with the option wheel as is.

If the gameplay could be sorted, however, the setting is full enough for a lot of possibilities. The post-Reaper universe won't be lacking for options: if anything, deciding on what version of the universe to play in would be the hardest. (Though they may just go with a 'default' playthrough.) But there would always be plenty of unbeaten paths to explore.

Imagine how many evil Cerberus plot lines they could introduce, with all the (more sensible) mad science? How about facing or encountering more Spectres? It would be much easier to explore, and be allowed to explore, so many worlds and areas, and get any number of plotlines about minor races, big races, politics, and always the threat of post-Reaper Reaper technology.


Agreed.

Also pausing wouldn't really be as necessary if you didn't have to manage squad mates abilities and possitioning as well as your own. If it's just one character you've got to pay attention to, there's no need for any kind of 'time stop' mechanic.

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Sphynx118 wrote...

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Well, it's rumored that Blizzard new mmo called Titan is a shooter of some sort so why not? Blizzard with a fantasy type mmo and a shooter mmo. Bioware with it's own type of fantasy mmo ( Star Wars ) and a shooter mmo with Mass effect. Between the 2, I vastly prefer the Mass effect mmo idea.

You do realize that the only reason blizzard would even consider making another mmo is because their cashcow is bringing in insane amounts of money
 
Anyone else trying to bring out 2 mmos without a similar wow-cashcow would be comitting financial suicide

^this

I like the idea, but I doubt it'll happen in the near future.
They are taking a huge financial risk with the old republic already and that one has the Star Wars brand behind it.
Mass Effect also partially overlaps with the kind of audiance that is interested in the old republic so they'd cut into their own market.

Then again:
Nobody says a MMO has to be a MMORPG...
I'm not sure if I am comfortable with that possibilitiy though... (MAG anyone?)

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Terrible idea.

I already think SWTOR will be a flop, not hoping it will be, but I believe it will.

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I really hope this wasn't Bioware's plan all along, to make 2 intellectual property trilogies and then bastardized as MMO's for monthly fees.

I'll be nervously awaiting their new single-player franchise after the DA and ME series are over.

Modifié par Lacan2, 11 avril 2011 - 10:11 .


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Pacifien wrote...

Well, as another anti-MMO individual, it's all rather a personal matter. I'd like BioWare to tackle the RTS genre in the vein similar to Homeworld using the Mass Effect universe. Now, RTS often have a multiplayer component. I wouldn't play it, though. I don't play well with others, so I like my games to be catered to me by providing me with a superior single-player experience.

I am, however, steadfastly not the sort of gamer any company needs to develop their games around if they want to make money.


Dear. Geezus. Yes.

Funnily enough...you know what else I think would lend itself quite well to the ME universe?

If they made a sort of Star Wolves game....Star Wolves itself was heavily flawed...but the gameplay mechanic itself was pretty interesting.


It was something I posted a touch on a while back..is I'd like to see a greater number of MMO's have a totally single player experience.  Allow someone to take the games story and run through it totally without having to interact with another human if they don't want...TOR seems to be tackling this...and I like.  The size of an MMO....with none of that having to deal with other smelly humans! :D

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Curious what do you guys envision in a Mass Effect MMO? When would you want it to take place? Would you rather BW makes it a totally different experience than what is out there? How much freedom would you want in the game?

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Bioware should see how TOR goes first, but they proably have this on mind already. If however an ME MMO will be produced & released in the future, i will check it out.

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I honestly hope this doesn't happen. I guess my main fear is that the story will take a backseat to gameplay, like WoW. Plus, if a set canon for what happened in Mass Effect 1-3 would kind of nullify the choices we made in the first three games.

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no thanks

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Maj.Pain007 wrote...

Curious what do you guys envision in a Mass Effect MMO? When would you want it to take place? Would you rather BW makes it a totally different experience than what is out there? How much freedom would you want in the game?


Here's my idea. I have every confidence that Bioware can come up with much better. It's just a basic concept.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/6888763

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I was a little surprised when i read that. I thought The Old Republic would be their MMO franchise. In any case, i hate the idea. The few MMOs i have tried all bored me to death and i am not interested in a social experience anyway. To me, gaming is more like reading a good book, it is something i would rather do alone.

But ofcause it's not like they are forcing me to buy it or anything, it just irritates me because there aren't many WRPGs left.

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I really don't think BioWare has the personnel and will to operate two gargantuan MMOs at the same time.

I'd quash this ME MMO theory, with extreme prejudice.

EDIT: The only chance ME would go MMO is if TOR failed miserably.  (From the looks of it, it ain't gonna happen).

Modifié par PARAGON87, 12 avril 2011 - 02:20 .


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PARAGON87 wrote...

I really don't think BioWare has the personnel and will to operate two gargantuan MMOs at the same time.

I'd quash this ME MMO theory, with extreme prejudice.

EDIT: The only chance ME would go MMO is if TOR failed miserably.  (From the looks of it, it ain't gonna happen).


People have also said the only chance they would go for it is if ToR succeeded, thus they would be willing to make further investments in MMO titles, because of their success (especially considering it would be about 5 years between titles) 

Also people have been saying it looks like ToR will flop, so I wouldn't make too many snap judgements here.

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As some one who can't get enough of this universe And reads the books comics and eventual anime I would love this. Instead of 26 playthroughs I could just play a never ending MMO. I just have Macs so please don't make it PC only.

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Yeah, but if this idea was put to paper, it would be at least six years before we saw any sign of an actual game,

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N7Armada wrote...

As some one who can't get enough of this universe And reads the books comics and eventual anime I would love this. Instead of 26 playthroughs I could just play a never ending MMO. I just have Macs so please don't make it PC only.


Yes

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It would have to be a really unique MMO for me to play. MMO's these days for me are really boring after a while they're so redundant and they're all the same just a different skin and storyline. Kill X's get xp and money rinse and repeat, very boring after a while unless the storyline is phenomenal and the game play is great and unique count me out.

Star wars may be too kiddy for me, ME is a dark and harsh universe if they can stick to that dark theme with a great story line, great game play and get rid of the stupid lame quests we find in every MMO I may give it a shot.

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george martin wrote...

It would have to be a really unique MMO for me to play. MMO's these days for me are really boring after a while they're so redundant and they're all the same just a different skin and storyline. Kill X's get xp and money rinse and repeat, very boring after a while unless the storyline is phenomenal and the game play is great and unique count me out.

Star wars may be too kiddy for me, ME is a dark and harsh universe if they can stick to that dark theme with a great story line, great game play and get rid of the stupid lame quests we find in every MMO I may give it a shot.


This is what i've been saying. It's so true. Aside from the fact that I can't even hear the words 'Star' and 'Wars' in the same sentence anymore without rolling my eyes and thinking 'Another fricken starwars game??' - It's the fact that at the end of the day, it's too childish.

It's grounded in a pure black and white struggle of good vs evil. Dark vs light. That isn't realistic. Nothing about that is believable. The mass effect universe is so compelling because the only black is the reapers and there is seemingly no white in the universe. Everything else is shades of gray. There is no true pure idealist faction striving to vanquish evil. Everyone's in it for themselves. Even shepard who's supposed to be the great hero of the universe can be played as renegade, and be quite calculating and cold.

It's realistic. Kindof like our world with republicans being black and everything else being shades of gray. lol.


Edit: I should add that what's even more compelling is that even this greatest Evil in mass effect can begin to make sense if you listen to it long enough. Which makes the reapers considerably more frightening. There's logic to it, unlike the 'evil forces' of many games which are basically just destroying stuff cause that's how they get down, with no particular plan on what to do once everything is destroyed.

Modifié par cedgedc, 12 avril 2011 - 01:37 .


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So... those posters who argue for this Mass Effect MMO idea simply want to trade the rich single player experience of this franchise for a grind and an ability to shoot their friends or random people... Seriously? *sigh*

These kind of preferences of the customers is actually the reason we are seeing lesser and lesser number of the games with a strong single player with each passing year and more and more of... yeah... the copy-paste unimaginative MMO / multi player based games.

The only somewhat good and new idea (from my viewpoint of course) on this thread is the Pacifien's Homeworld-type RTS idea which may allow changing the perspective and scope of the franchise and actually adding something significant to it without any trade offs.

Thank You for Your time.

Modifié par Raven of the Night, 12 avril 2011 - 03:00 .


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Raven of the Night wrote...

So... those posters who argue for this Mass Effect MMO idea simply want to trade the rich single player experience of this franchise for a grind and an ability to shoot their friends or random people... Seriously? *sigh*

These kind of preferences of the customers is actually the reason we are seeing lesser and lesser number of the games with a strong single player with each passing year and more and more of... yeah... the copy-paste unimaginative MMO / multi player based games.

The only somewhat good and new idea (from my viewpoint of course) on this thread is the Pacifien's Homeworld-type RTS idea which may allow changing the perspective and scope of the franchise and actually adding something significant to it without any trade offs.

Thank You for Your time.


If you had taken the time to read the posts instead of just assuming MMO = level and gear grinding, you'd see that almost no one is in favor of that.

People want an MMO for the sake of exploring the world and yes, being able to share that experience with others.

For many people, experiences that you have while isolated with no one else to share in them are quite hollow. This is a chance to have some of those fun experiences we had discovering the world of ME while with friends and while meeting new people.

Also I am eager to see what NEW elements bioware could contribute to the MMO genre. No one wants the same old MMO. That has been stated again and again. I want to see Bioware's take on an original MMO based on original IP.

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I'd absolutely love a ME MMO in 10 years time. Right now it won't happen.

Also TOR looks to have gone some way at eliminating the grind. I can't wait to get my hands on that beast, its my most anticipated game ever since it was announced. Its like 5 Bioware RPGs in one plus multiplayer! Tons of exploration, decisions, plotlines etc. Bioware hasn't sacrificed any of the stuff that makes their single player experiences so unique, you even get NPC companions!

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Skilled Seeker wrote...

I'd absolutely love a ME MMO in 10 years time. Right now it won't happen.

Also TOR looks to have gone some way at eliminating the grind. I can't wait to get my hands on that beast, its my most anticipated game ever since it was announced. Its like 5 Bioware RPGs in one plus multiplayer! Tons of exploration, decisions, plotlines etc. Bioware hasn't sacrificed any of the stuff that makes their single player experiences so unique, you even get NPC companions!


I think 5 years is plenty ; D

My main thought is this. Even if they decided to come out with 3 new single player MAss effect based rpgs after the shepard trilogy... it wouldn't amount to the kind of content and exploration.. and replay value that you get from an MMO.

An MMO has the potential to basically make this universe a real place. People should stop focusing on what they've known mmorpg's to be in the past. Forget WoW and EQ and all their clones. Think about a Mass Effect universe that is alive. Think of what that universe would be like in the wake of the reapers.

Earth is torn to shreds, humanity decimated, geth and quarians at war, mercenary bands skirmishing for superiority, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!