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[javierabegazo]

sympathy4saren wrote...


I agree, Mass Effect is the best piece of fiction ever (that's saying a lot) and my favorite series ever. But if it would have stayed less shooter, it would have been even better.

And this is absolutely true....for you. Which is wonderful. You're totally allowed to have your opinion. For me, that's not true at all. For me, I like that ME2 made it easier to role play a special ops soldier having to handpick your equipment to suit the mission you had to go on.

But the point is this: It's ok to have differences in opinion. It's not ok to disrespect other genres and the people who like them just because they don't agree with you. Just recognize when comment is an opinion and when it's not. that's all.

[Harmless Crunch]

sympathy4saren wrote...

So what are some other games you guys play?

I mostly play games for the atmosphere, story Etc
So heres my list
(Note I'm just typing games that I have played recently)

RPG
-Mass effect 1 and 2 and all the DLC
-Dragon age Origins and 2 and all the DLC
-Fable 2 and all DLC

Shooter
-All the Halos and all DLC
-MW1 and 2
-Black ops
-Gears of war 1 and 2

Open world/Sandbox
-Grand theft auto 4 and the expansions
-Red dead redemption

Action adventure
-Heavy rain (I know it's not really a Action adventure but I had to put it somewhere)
-Uncharted 2
-Assains creed 2 and Brotherhood

[Kane-Corr]

sympathy4saren wrote...


I agree, Mass Effect is the best piece of fiction ever (that's saying a lot) and my favorite series ever. But if it would have stayed less shooter, it would have been even better.

Eh, I disagree. I can see what you mean, because for myself...I can look at Mass Effect 2 and definately see their was a level design change and an atmosphere change based off of the improved style of play. However, what Bioware did actually made things enjoyable because:

1) Things were improved upon
2) Changing it up offered a refreshing and dynamic view of the Mass Effect Universe.

Don't tell me the first time you started walking in Mass Effect 2 you didn't go, "HOLY CRAP, THIS LOOKS AMAZING!"  - because I did.

It paved the way for making Mass Effect 3 THAT much better. Because when I look at Mass 2, I see a transitioning game, one that takes the best from 1, morphs it into something amazing...creates new elements, and then imporves upon those elements for the final chapter.

I think it'll all make sense come a few months down the road.

Modifié par Kane-Corr, 11 avril 2011 - 04:58 .

[Chala]

Why don't we wait a little more time to know better about what's coming next? It's too early to make assumptions, also, they say that better RPG elements is an objetive for this game. And the guys from Game Informer said that the RPG part of the game is improving. So I don't see why are you so paranaoid with that COD conspiracy stuff.

[AngryFrozenWater]

sympathy4saren wrote...

So what are some other games you guys play?

These are just some of the titles in my Steam list (I was too lazy to add the others):

Amnesia: Dark Secent
Batttlefield: Bad Company 2 (+Vietnam)
Company of Heroes
Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor
DIRT 2
Dragon Age: Origins Digital Deluxe
Dragon Age 2
FEAR 2: Project Origin
Fallout: New Vegas
GRID
Guild Wars
Half Life 2 (including Episode One, Two, and Lost Coast)
Jade Empire: Special Edition
Left 4 Dead
Mass Effect 1
Mass Effect 2 Digital Deluxe
Metro 2033
Mount & Blade
Portal
Resident Evil 5
Stalker: Call of Pripyat
Stalker: Clear Sky
Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Team Fortress 2
Twin Sector
Unreal Gold (and II: The Awakening, Tournament 2004, 3 Black Edition, GotY)
The Witcher
The Witcher 2 (pre-ordered)
X: Tension
X2: The Threat
X2: Reunion
X3: Terran Conflict
X: Beyond the Frontier

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 11 avril 2011 - 05:08 .

[Tazzmission]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Why don't we wait a little more time to know better about what's coming next? It's too early to make assumptions, also, they say that better RPG elements is an objetive for this game. And the guys from Game Informer said that the RPG part of the game is improving. So I don't see why are you so paranaoid with that COD conspiracy stuff.

i think people are freaking out is because they played dragon age 2 and think oh crap me3 is gona be just like it. as far as the gun play and i myself am not a big fan of shooters but i enjoyed it alot in me2. all i can say is wait till e3 because im positive that they will show it off

[atheelogos]

sympathy4saren wrote...

A lot of people were upset that inventory and rpg elements were gutted in me2, and now for me3 all you hear about is how inventory is again limited, melee is enhanced and you can pick up guns on the battlefield "Call of Duty" style.

If fact, it says in the article that rpg elements have been beefed up, but I see specific mention much more to, again, friggin combat.

How is my INVENTORY going to be? I'm glad larger skill trees are coming back, but what about Inventory?

After this trilogy, is Mass Effect going to devolve into pure shooter, and is Bioware catering too much to the Call of Duty/Halo crowd?

Well Bioware only makes RPGs so I'd guess no.

[Fluffy Pyro]

Funny how people are going bananas for Skyrim. Weren't they the same group who complained about how 'dumbed' down Oblivion was compared to MW? Yet people are already harping about how Skyrim will be GOTY despite how bad Oblivion was. Sure, after 5 official patches, a 500MB unofficial patch fixing over a thousand bugs, a 5GB texture pack replacement and 50 other smaller mods to fix numerous gameplay and levelling deficiencies, then it might be GOTY worthy.

Modifié par Fluffy Pyro, 11 avril 2011 - 05:04 .

[Tazzmission]

Fluffy Pyro wrote...

Funny how people are going bananas for Skyrim. Weren't they the same group who complained about how 'dumbed' down Oblivion was compared to MW? Yet people are harping about how Skyrim will be GOTY. Sure, after 5 official patches, a 500MB unofficial patch fixing over a thousand bugs, a 5GB texture pack replacement and 50 other smaller mods to fix numerous gameplay and levelling deficiencies, then it might be GOTY worthy.

uuuuuuuuuuuuugh i hated oblivion, i didnt even complete it honestly. i think me3 will beat skyrim though because i do believe mass effect has a bigger fanbase

[Fluffy Pyro]

The ES series have been around forever. The ME series isn't even half a decade old yet. Skyrim will win multiple GOTYs on name alone, regardless of the quality of the game. It's also why BW would be crazy if they released ME3 anywhere near Skyrim's release date.

Modifié par Fluffy Pyro, 11 avril 2011 - 05:09 .

[Pscyon]

Fluffy Pyro wrote...

Funny how people are going bananas for Skyrim. Weren't they the same group who complained about how 'dumbed' down Oblivion was compared to MW?

As one of the people who complain how dumbed down Oblivion was compared to Morrowind, I take offense! I am most definitely not going bananas over Skyrim. I'm sure it will be even more dumbed down than Oblivion was! So Morrowind > Oblivion > Skyrim probably. How I miss the infinitely big world from Arena though. Throw Arena's world and spell creation system into Morrowind and it'd be the perfect RPG. *sigh*

Modifié par Pscyon, 11 avril 2011 - 05:09 .

[Chala]

Tazzmission wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

Why don't we wait a little more time to know better about what's coming next? It's too early to make assumptions, also, they say that better RPG elements is an objetive for this game. And the guys from Game Informer said that the RPG part of the game is improving. So I don't see why are you so paranaoid with that COD conspiracy stuff.

i think people are freaking out is because they played dragon age 2 and think oh crap me3 is gona be just like it. as far as the gun play and i myself am not a big fan of shooters but i enjoyed it alot in me2. all i can say is wait till e3 because im positive that they will show it off

- DA2 they changed the style, ME3 don't
-In DA2 the graphics looked horrible since day one, ME3 looks that it's going to make the same graphical jump of ME1 to ME2
-In DA2 the game import sucks and was pointless, in ME3 the save import is one of the pilars of the game
-Also DA2's team =/= ME3's team

I understand what are you saying, but really I can't understand their reaction. Maybe is anxiety? I'm also positive with the stuff they'll show in the next E3

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 11 avril 2011 - 05:09 .

[sonsonthebia07]

mrsph wrote...

The entire game is managing inventory for Shepard while he wages war against the Reapers offscreen.

Omni-gellin' a useless item takes 20 minutes real-time and is done by rapid button pressing to add to the intensity factor.

[Tazzmission]

Fluffy Pyro wrote...

The ES series have been around forever. The ME series isn't even half a decade old yet. Skyrim will win multiple GOTYs on name alone, regardless of the quality of the game.

i dont know man because we  have to include dlc into the mix as a selling point also.



didnt oblivion have some form of horse dlc or something wich really angered the fans??

[Fluffy Pyro]

To be fair to Skyrim, the previews and Todd's interviews make it sound a lot more promising than Oblivion. They're not over-hyping the features this time. And the horse armor thing was hilarious. Didn't it start the whole DLC craze? They did redeem Oblivion by releasing SI.

Modifié par Fluffy Pyro, 11 avril 2011 - 05:15 .

[Icinix]

By the looks of all the information out and about in regards to ME3..

Id say no.

[Tazzmission]

if anything bioware listens to the fans way to much. if anything the fans need to just chill on the demands and let them do what they do best

[AngryFrozenWater]

I think BW is overdoing it. Although I really like what I have seen so far from ME3, I was somewhat disappointed with ME2 (I won't go into that), and I love ME1. The tech and biotic powers make the combat bearable, but are far too weak for my taste. If I want to play a shooter then I rather play another franchise. I play ME because it's a cool RPG and not because it is a shooter.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 11 avril 2011 - 05:20 .

[Tazzmission]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

I think BW is overdoing it. Although I really like what I have seen so far from ME3, I was somewhat disappointed with ME2 (I won't go into that), and I love ME1. The tech and biotic powers make the combat bearable, but are far to weak for my taste. If I want to play a shooter then I rather play another franchise. I play ME because it's a cool RPG and not because it is a shooter.

i love mass effect because of the story and charachters. i think me2 was more charachter driven then it was about the collectors but i think each of those stories were really well written

[Da Mecca]

I say it's catering just enough.

If Bioware once to take the combat in this direction they had to step it up.

Part of the reason I didn't like ME2 was cause I had JUST finished Uncharted 2 a better shooter and that was a way better shooter than ME2.

And I felt that ME2's RPG elements were too lacking to really hold my attention

[Fluffy Pyro]

It's a no-win situation. No Earth. Complain. Visiting Earth. Complain. Mako. Complain. No Mako. Complain. Not enough squad mates. Complain. Too many squad mates. Complain. No weapon mods. Complain. Bringing back weapon mods in different form. Complain. Linear levels. Complain. More open levels. Complain. Lack of good melee system. Complain. Introduction of a melee system. Complain. And so it repeats.

[Da Mecca]

Fluffy Pyro wrote...

It's a no-win situation. No Earth. Complain. Visiting Earth. Complain. Mako. Complain. No Mako. Complain. Not enough squad mates. Complain. Too many squad mates. Complain. No weapon mods. Complain. Bringing back weapon mods in different form. Complain. Linear levels. Complain. More open levels. Complain. Lack of good melee system. Complain. Introduction of a melee system. Complain. And so it repeats.

When everyone's complaining, no one will be.

[Tazzmission]

Fluffy Pyro wrote...

It's a no-win situation. No Earth. Complain. Visiting Earth. Complain. Mako. Complain. No Mako. Complain. Not enough squad mates. Complain. Too many squad mates. Complain. No weapon mods. Complain. Bringing back weapon mods in different form. Complain. Linear levels. Complain. More open levels. Complain. Lack of good melee system. Complain. Introduction of a melee system. Complain. And so it repeats.

i know right? people can never be happy... people wanted vs back they get it but say they look bad. seriously will fans finally grow up

[sympathy4saren]

Fluffy Pyro wrote...

Funny how people are going bananas for Skyrim. Weren't they the same group who complained about how 'dumbed' down Oblivion was compared to MW? Yet people are already harping about how Skyrim will be GOTY despite how bad Oblivion was. Sure, after 5 official patches, a 500MB unofficial patch fixing over a thousand bugs, a 5GB texture pack replacement and 50 other smaller mods to fix numerous gameplay and levelling deficiencies, then it might be GOTY worthy.

Yet Oblivion won GOTY....strange...

[javierabegazo]

sympathy4saren wrote...

Fluffy Pyro wrote...

Funny how people are going bananas for Skyrim. Weren't they the same group who complained about how 'dumbed' down Oblivion was compared to MW? Yet people are already harping about how Skyrim will be GOTY despite how bad Oblivion was. Sure, after 5 official patches, a 500MB unofficial patch fixing over a thousand bugs, a 5GB texture pack replacement and 50 other smaller mods to fix numerous gameplay and levelling deficiencies, then it might be GOTY worthy.

Yet Oblivion won GOTY....strange...

Winning an Award =/= Strong Polished Game