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[BigCrash]

 We don't see a single female Seerabas during the game but why? We know Qunari value efficiency and order over pretty much everything, hence no female soldiers or male priests, etc. But no one choses to be born with magic, including the Qunari, so why don't we ever see female Seerabas?

Different races have different aptitudes: a human mage doesn't have as much aptitude towards magic as does an elf (from what i remember of origins), but it doesn't vary with gender so there is no reason as to why they would keep female Seerabas in Par-Volen: it can't be a gender specific role. I very much doubt female mages would be killed by being born that way as it is made clear to us that Qunari don't waste potential...

So the real question is: will we in fact have the chance to see a female Seerabas in a dlc? Maybe even as a Tal-vasoth and therefore a possible companion / as a mage who lost her kerataam and follows you as her new Arvaard?

It's mostly just wishful thinking, but who knows right? All i know is that if I never get to see female "gray ones" i'll be disapointed.

((on a side note does anyone know how their actual race is named?))

[Wulfram]

As I understand it Female Saarebas don't fight, because they're women

[Maria Caliban]

1. It's the kissoth.
2. The ship was carrying qunari soldiers. Soldiers are male. A female qunari mage would probably be put to non-violent use. I can't imagine a race as efficient as the qunari would only use magic for fighting if they have female mages.

[BigCrash]

but a mage isn't considered a soldier or is it?
and we never see mages carrying weapons. They don't even wear armor, they are just chained to each other and the leash of Arvaard. I'm not saying that it should be, but there must be female mages with more magical talent than males that would make formidable fighters (or tools on the qunari point of view) to attack the enemy.

also don't forget they see magic as a work of demons and a dangerous thing to wield. they are reluctant to the use of magic (they prefer their technology) so i can't imagine them using it on their homeland.

Modifié par BigCrash, 11 avril 2011 - 10:44 .

[Rabies]

I'm thinking perhaps the female seerabas are simply used for medical purposes. Who knows? We have yet to see a female qunari, although I am personally looking forward to an opportunity to rectify that. I loved the illustrations that Bioware released back during development.

[tanarri23]

They're not in the game because the developers preferred to use the required resources for something else and, unlike female dwarves, there's a passably good story reason to leave them out. I just hope it was for a quest or two, and not a hundred useless armor items.

The Qunari seem extremely prejudiced against magic so I really, really doubt they use it for healing. For the same reason I really doubt treatment of female Saarebas is any different from the males, or that they're even seen as female. They are just Saarebas. 

Modifié par tanarri23, 11 avril 2011 - 03:16 .

[Maria Caliban]

BigCrash wrote...

but a mage isn't considered a soldier or is it?

They're considered a war machine. Walking artillery.

and we never see mages carrying weapons. They don't even wear armor, they are just chained to each other and the leash of Arvaard.

Why would a mage need to carry a weapon if they are a weapon?

I'm not saying that it should be, but there must be female mages with more magical talent than males that would make formidable fighters (or tools on the qunari point of view) to attack the enemy.

There must be female qunari with more weaponry talent that would make formidable fighters. Or there would be if the qunari taught women to fight, which they don't.

A man is a warrior. A male mage is taught to blow **** up on command and thus fulfills his role in the Qun. A woman is not a warrior. No one will teach her to blow **** up. They will teach her whatever spells, if any, are necessary to fulfill her role in the Qun.

[erilben]

A mage quanari isn't considered to be female/male, so they use both genders of mages just the same. You don't see female Seerabas because Bioware didn't bother to make them.

[BigCrash]

Maria Caliban wrote...

and we never see mages carrying weapons. They don't even wear armor, they are just chained to each other and the leash of Arvaard.

Why would a mage need to carry a weapon if they are a weapon?

I'm not saying that it should be, but there must be female mages with more magical talent than males that would make formidable fighters (or tools on the qunari point of view) to attack the enemy.

There must be female qunari with more weaponry talent that would make formidable fighters. Or there would be if the qunari taught women to fight, which they don't.

A man is a warrior. A male mage is taught to blow **** up on command and thus fulfills his role in the Qun. A woman is not a warrior. No one will teach her to blow **** up. They will teach her whatever spells, if any, are necessary to fulfill her role in the Qun.

Quote 1: That's exacly my point. they are tools, therefore males have no priorities over females. meaning both are treated and trained in the same (if they get any training at all).

Quote 2: Not all females are priests or merchants as much as not all males are soldiers or guardians. Granted some roles are better suited for a certain gender, not all of them are gender-specific. A seerabas is not a soldier. Like Avaard tells us Seerabas is their role and standing in society; it is the acknowledgement and acusation of being a mage. 

Magic isn't something you can drop on the floor, you're born with it. A mage will always be a mage, training males and ignoring the females without a purpose is against Qunari principles seeing as each Qunari has a purpose.

Modifié par BigCrash, 11 avril 2011 - 04:09 .

[Herr Uhl]

Maria Caliban wrote...

2. The ship was carrying qunari soldiers. Soldiers are male. A female qunari mage would probably be put to non-violent use. I can't imagine a race as efficient as the qunari would only use magic for fighting if they have female mages.

Females are used the same way as males. Saarebas aren't soldiers.

The reason is that they didn't want to make a whole new model for the limited exposure it'd get.

[hoorayforicecream]

Herr Uhl wrote...

The reason is that they didn't want to make a whole new model for the limited exposure it'd get.

Close. Making a new model isn't that difficult. Making a whole new set of animations for females, though, would be a production nightmare. Animations take much more time and effort to produce than models or textures, which is why you see so much animation reuse over the course of a game.

[Gamer Ftw]

I figured the females were healers and not allowed far from home.
It would be awesome to see a female mage turn Tal Vashoth.
Epic party member?

[Camenae]

I think DG has said that Qunari don't consider their Saarebas to be men or women. They are "dangerous THINGS." So they would use female Saarebas to fight. As cannons with aesthetic differences, I suppose.