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[v_ware]

Lord no.

[Monica83]

casadechrisso wrote...

Apparently most people never bothered to check out NWN's wonderful multiplayer options, something that kept the game alive for years and still does. The option to play DMed campaigns and roleplay in a persistent world is far from "dumbing down" or "taking away", it only increases the value of the game if done right. Dumbing down is what they did in DA2 so far.
However, since the NWN concept of multiplayer won't fill EA's cash box, there's no doubt they'll do something else instead that probably ruins it. I have no high hopes, but a NWN-style multiplayer DA is what many people were already hoping for long before Origins was released.

Indeed it like see people with torch and fork screaming: Burn the witch! Lol

[TeamVR]

casadechrisso wrote...

Apparently most people never bothered to check out NWN's wonderful multiplayer options, something that kept the game alive for years and still does. The option to play DMed campaigns and roleplay in a persistent world is far from "dumbing down" or "taking away", it only increases the value of the game if done right. Dumbing down is what they did in DA2 so far.
However, since the NWN concept of multiplayer won't fill EA's cash box, there's no doubt they'll do something else instead that probably ruins it. I have no high hopes, but a NWN-style multiplayer DA is what many people were already hoping for long before Origins was released.

Good point. I think people are forgetting that bioware has had many years of multiplayer experience. But I also think that taking a singleplayer game and shoehorning a multiplayer component often does more harm than good. Especially in this age of big budget titles where the focus on profit can outweigh user experience sometimes. 

We will have to wait and see, I suppose. 

Modifié par TeamVR, 11 avril 2011 - 01:56 .

[wowpwnslol]

Considering how bad Bioware is with game balance and timely patches, any multiplayer will end in total fiasco. They should stick to single player games or they will be eaten alive by the player base. 

Modifié par wowpwnslol, 11 avril 2011 - 01:57 .

[Xewaka]

Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 as well as Neverwinter Nights had co-op. As long as it is co-op, I see it working.

[LyndseyCousland]

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[Monica83]

*kisses lindsey*

[casadechrisso]

Monica83 wrote...

Indeed it like see people with torch and fork screaming: Burn the witch! Lol

And that's probably because most people associate some dumb PvP, F2P or company-hosted servers like WoW with multiplayer. I've spent 5 years or so playing NWN(2)'s persistent worlds and they had much more value to me than the game's story in the end. Something I haven't experienced elsewhere. 

[Cutlass Jack]

No thank you. Time spent on making multiplayer is time that could have been spent on adding more content to the Single Player game and making it even better.

DA2 had enough trouble in this regard due to the reduced development time. Imagine how much more they'd have to cut to fit in Multiplayer.

If I want Multiplayer I'll play an MMO. When I want a great single player RPG, I'll play a Bioware game.

[Paraxial]

Modifié par Bible Doctor, 11 avril 2011 - 02:04 .

[SarEnyaDor]

I could see co-op with one player as Hawke and one as the Warden being pretty enticing....

[AkiKishi]

Monica83 wrote...

hammmm sorry but i dont understeand the point... a multyplayer ala nwn can give a lot of replay value and can bring your character to live an endless adventure... But you prefear have an adventure already told and with an end? I really don't understeand it...Its like people are scared by interarcting with others..

If they made a Dragon Age version of NwN maybe.

If I want to interact with "others" I'll play an MMPORG, that is what they are for.

[MJF JD]

could be interesting with trying to maximize cross class combos, then again 99% of the players would be 2handed vanguard warriors.

[Adara]

Bioware please please say it isn't so...Or at least if it is just rumor please clear it up.

[o0mofo0o]

 Am I the only one who sees the potential in multiplayer vs combat? As an avid SC2 player, where quick and informed reaction based strategies are a big part of the game, I can see a HUGE skill gap in managing 4+ heroes with unique roles and abilities in real time combat. I would absolutely LOVE to see multiplayer in DA3, only if it was done right though (ie tactical camera, no crazy hot rod samurai animations, no pause).

[Paraxial]

o0mofo0o wrote...

 Am I the only one who sees the potential in multiplayer vs combat?.

Yes.

[Monica83]

casadechrisso wrote...

Monica83 wrote...

Indeed it like see people with torch and fork screaming: Burn the witch! Lol

And that's probably because most people associate some dumb PvP, F2P or company-hosted servers like WoW with multiplayer. I've spent 5 years or so playing NWN(2)'s persistent worlds and they had much more value to me than the game's story in the end. Something I haven't experienced elsewhere. 

Yes i agree...But the strong side in a nwn settings for da can be also good for singleplayer gamers

A) With a nice toolset you have toons of awesome mods...
If you finish the original campaign you cand download also fan maded ones that include new content in all aspect
C) Fanmaded campaigns add a lot of replay value...

For multyplayer gamers we have:

A) For roleplayer the opportunity to enter in a persistent world to roleplay your character
Coop for the fan of team interaction and mob fraggers
c)Arena modes for who enjoy pvp...

Buts its useless try to explain thing to who want be blind...

[casadechrisso]

BobSmith101 wrote...

If I want to interact with "others" I'll play an MMPORG, that is what they are for.

I so disagree. 

The point of NWN's multiplayer has always been that you can choose or even create the world you want to interact in, with a bunch of people you want to interact with. I don't care for dumb MMOs without roleplay and player-driven storylines at all, thank you. 

[Cutlass Jack]

casadechrisso wrote...

I so disagree. 

The point of NWN's multiplayer has always been that you can choose or even create the world you want to interact in, with a bunch of people you want to interact with. I don't care for dumb MMOs without roleplay and player-driven storylines at all, thank you. 

There's already a new Neverwinter in develpment. And even if there weren't there's nothing stopping anyone from using the previous versions to keep making new content.

No offense, but other people would ruin the experience of a Dragon Age game...

"No really Bill. I keep telling you. Leliana is mine. Hands off! And stop standing around during my nookie scene!"

"Dood maybe you shouldn't have picked the center of the damn camp to do it in then! And put your pants on."

"I'm Roleplaying! *sob*

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 11 avril 2011 - 02:13 .

[xkg]

If it is going to be only a "side dish" then lets them do it
If it is going to influence Single Player Story in any negative way then no please Bioware dont do it

Modifié par xkg, 11 avril 2011 - 02:16 .

[Cutlasskiwi]

I always get scared when I see BioWare games and multiplayer mentioned together. I guess here's where some privilege comes in from me, since I don't want any singel player aspect taken away in order to make room for multiplayer. I have a hard time picturing how it would work - maybe if it's like in Neverwinter Nights..

[TheSeeker33]

Please don't make it multiplayer.... The only mulitplayer I like in an RPG is in an MMO, where it's designed for it. But DA is more of a single player experience. With MP, all the time in development won't just be spent on SP, but MP too, and will detract from the SP experience. Only way it would work is do what they are doing with LOTR: War In The North and make it Co-op, but no death match and such.

[AkiKishi]

casadechrisso wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

If I want to interact with "others" I'll play an MMPORG, that is what they are for.

I so disagree. 

The point of NWN's multiplayer has always been that you can choose or even create the world you want to interact in, with a bunch of people you want to interact with. I don't care for dumb MMOs without roleplay and player-driven storylines at all, thank you. 

It took a long time for NWN to have that sort of content. I know it took me almost a year to finish my NwN version of Pools of Radiance.
I play games like NWN with people I already know. I've played games like it with strangers and it's totally hit or miss just like any open MP game.
MMPORGs are no better in that respect, but they have a lot of content ready to go and don't rely on anyone making it.

[casadechrisso]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

There's already a new Neverwinter in develpment. And even if there weren't there's nothing stopping anyone from using the previous versions to keep making new content.

One that cuts off the persistant world and user-created module options, yes. 

Cutlass Jack wrote...

No offense, but other people would ruin the experience of a Dragon Age game...

"No really Bill. I keep telling you. Leliana is mine. Hands off! And stop standing around during my nookie scene!"

"Dood maybe you shouldn't have picked the center of the damn camp to do it in then! And put your pants on."

"I'm Roleplaying! *sob*

I'm not talking about co-op in the campaign. I'm not talking about company-hosted servers. I'm not talking about Bioware spending months on creating multiplayer maps, servers or anything, that's what they can do with their Old Republic (a game and multiplayer style I'm not interested in at all).
I'm talking about just an option that means nothing more than 1. a toolset and 2. the multiplayer hooks so people can play a module together. I really don't see what the whole uproar about such an option is about. 

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

An extensive toolset, player hosted servers and custom content would be nice. Very nice. It would be made of win, actually.

Basically, NWN for DA.

But it's wishful thinking at best.

I'm still doubting that there will be multiplayer. If there is, I'm afraid it won't turn out so well.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 11 avril 2011 - 02:24 .