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[G00N3R7883]

Considering how much Bioware have alienated the community with DA2, I think putting in multiplayer would be the final nail in the coffin for the DA series.

I don't see any way that multiplayer can work in a story driven game. For one, everyone wants to experience it at their own pace. And as well, I can't see many players being happy to play the sidekick to the main hero.

[LukaCrosszeria]

MCPOWill wrote...

Phantom13NWN2 wrote...

What the hell is happening to Bioware..?

Bioware is becoming streamlined! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

That's going a bit far methinks, but it's a shame that the influence from EA seems to have negative results.

Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 12 avril 2011 - 03:36 .

[david46]

If you look around you might find some quotes by Casey Hudson on Bioware's interest in MMOs. It might do a lot to relieve the fears of some people. The Mass Effect and Dragon Age universes are intellectual property that have potential past the scope of the current RPG games.

[Killer3000ad]

madisoncb15 wrote...

The only reason this would happen is because Multiplayer sells, even if it doesn't always work. It's kinda like Communism....on paper, it looks damned great. In real life...well...different story

The problem here is that DA never had multiplayer. WHen folks buy DA3 they are gonna buy it for the single-player campaign not the multiplayer.Bioware is potentially wasting precious resources on something that isn't the main selling point of DA, resources that could be better used enriching the single-player experience.

[Ticladesign]

ALSO!
I don't really want Multiplayer.. Seeing someone with a name like 'UBERAWESOME' running around, really kinda kills the whole mood and seriousness of an RPG ¬_¬

Stopped reading right there.

Never played Neverwinter Nights, now have you?

Never heared of a Toolset where you can make your own modules and host them as Multiplayer servers?

NEVER heared of all the NWN persistent worlds, some being online for YEARS now?

Clearly.

There is something like an rpg without MMO on the front of them. Multiplayer RPG's havent started with WoW, and Call of Duty didnt invent how any multiplayer mode should be done.

This thinking is false and blatently ignorant. What irks me most is that the Multiplayer nay sayers dont want others to enjoy any possible DA multiplayer just because they dont like it.

Bioware is the perfect candidate to make a Multiplayer mode in a game with a toolset, without turning it into yet another mmo with the typical mmo crowd.

[antenni88]

Or maybe they are making; Dragon Age The MMORPG.

(please don't do that)

[Haexpane]

Anyone who has NOT hit the panic button yet, please do the following.

Go to the Star Wars TOR website. Click on images, look at said images.

Come back here and cry after you see what they did to KOTOR

[Maverick827]

Haexpane wrote...

Come back here and cry after you see what they did to KOTOR

Tears of happiness, of course.

[tankgirly]

antenni88 wrote...

Or maybe they are making; Dragon Age The MMORPG.

(please don't do that)

*In Arishok's tone* No.

Maverick827 wrote...

Haexpane wrote...

Come back here and cry after you see what they did to KOTOR

Tears of happiness, of course.

Please tell me you are joking.

Modifié par tankgirly, 12 avril 2011 - 09:28 .

[Maverick827]

tankgirly wrote...

Please tell me you are joking.

I could say the same to anyone who does not see TOR's potential.

[berserkerblob]

Man, why are you guys always mention titles like RDR or even AC?
Btw, the RDR Mp wasn't good or even exciting at all ( except the undead nightmare mp), it was quite boring.
Both Titles (RDR and AC) shouldn't be rolemodels for a DA SP.
RDR and AC are 3rd-person action-adventure games which do not draw deep charcters at all and (at least) AC's story is completely flat and becomes more and more ridiculous and AC's characters are idiotic stereotypes.
The AC-Series is all about Ubisoft milking the cash cow on an annual basis.

@topic
Isn't it funny that another big publisher of rpgs, bethesda, has just stated that the inclusion of an mp would come along with trade-offs which the SP would be suffering from. See the Article on CVG.

Modifié par berserkerblob, 12 avril 2011 - 09:52 .

[tankgirly]

Maverick827 wrote...

tankgirly wrote...

Please tell me you are joking.

I could say the same to anyone who does not see TOR's potential.

potential for what? get people to glue in front of computer 24/7?

Apology for my tone, got a bit angry for this said rumor.....

[berserkerblob]

Ticladesign wrote...
This thinking is false and blatently ignorant. What irks me most is that the Multiplayer nay sayers dont want others to enjoy any possible DA multiplayer just because they dont like it.

I guess you are the ignorant and selfish one. Creating an MP would waste ressources which otherwise would be used for the developement of an excellent SP.
Why do we, the loyal fans to DAO and real rpgs, have to make a sacrifice in order to get you satisfied with your dark-fantasy-CoD?
I loved DAO and i don't want an MP in DA3.  

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Turnip Root wrote...

This rumor is false. I remember when Kotaku and others were both claiming Mass Effect III would also have multi-player which we now know is not the case.

I think BioWare was considering at some point. A lot of people thought that it might have multiplayer, from what I saw.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Luke Barrett wrote...



'???'

you don't deny it... it must be true! You would deny if you could, Luke! Ehehehe.

[Maverick827]

berserkerblob wrote...

@topic
Isn't it funny that another big publisher of rpgs, bethesda, has just stated that the inclusion of an mp would come along with trade-offs which the SP would be suffering from. See the Article on CVG.

That's a bit hypocritical coming from Bathesda, though. They spend so much time building large worlds that they neglect the game's core storyline, and then rely on fan mods to keep things going past the twenty-hour mark.

If the story is getting put aside either way, I'd much rather have mutliplayer than an "open" world which invariably becomes hollow and stale.

Modifié par Maverick827, 12 avril 2011 - 10:06 .

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Pious_Augustus wrote...

Luke Barrett wrote...



'???'

HAHAHAHA did you guys use that matt to build your dungeons? It looks like it for DA2

LOL good one. 

[Reinveil]

Actually, I think a lot of people were under the impression ME3 would have multiplayer because of this quote:

Chatting with trade site Develop, Gibeau says "I volunteer you to speak to EA's studio heads; they'll tell you the same thing. They're very comfortable moving the discussion towards how we make connected gameplay – be it co-operative or multiplayer or online services – as opposed to fire-and-forget, packaged goods only, single-player, 25-hours-and you're out. I think that model is finished."

I think what was being implied was something along the lines of the Cerberus Network (increased online connectivity), but everybody immediately jumped to the conclusion that it meant shoehorned MP. And the rumor ended up being false.

Much like this one will probably be. It makes for interesting discussion, but let's not get the lynchin' rope just yet.

(And this is from someone that's been very outspoken about his disappointment with DAII.)

Edit: Outside of something along the lines of Two Worlds II's co-op MP (smaller missions independent of the main game), I don't really see how it could even be implemented.  The combat isn't exactly PvP friendly, either.  Mass Effect 3 having multiplayer at least makes sense based on it's Gears-esque gameplay.  This, not so much.

Modifié par Reinveil, 12 avril 2011 - 10:18 .

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Haexpane wrote...

Anyone who has NOT hit the panic button yet, please do the following.

Go to the Star Wars TOR website. Click on images, look at said images.

Come back here and cry after you see what they did to KOTOR

Come on... there's a lot of interesting stuff about the game and many are looking forward to it.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DA becomes multiplayer, I go bye bye. I play DA (or did prior to DA2 which I did not like) for the epic story, single player cRPG, choices effect the story like those old 'choose your adventure' type books which DAO reminded me of and not 'Dragon Age 2: Jutsu Chronicles' and not multiplayer.

However I do not think they will be so silly as to try to tag in a multiplayer element tbh because I have some faith in their common sense... But saying that if Mike is lead on it god knows what will end up with... I shudder at the thought. TOR should be the only multiplayer game they are working on imho.

Singleplayer is always a pretty horrible medium for conveying story and narrative.

[Reinveil]

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DA becomes multiplayer, I go bye bye. I play DA (or did prior to DA2 which I did not like) for the epic story, single player cRPG, choices effect the story like those old 'choose your adventure' type books which DAO reminded me of and not 'Dragon Age 2: Jutsu Chronicles' and not multiplayer.

However I do not think they will be so silly as to try to tag in a multiplayer element tbh because I have some faith in their common sense... But saying that if Mike is lead on it god knows what will end up with... I shudder at the thought. TOR should be the only multiplayer game they are working on imho.

Singleplayer is always a pretty horrible medium for conveying story and narrative.

Huh?

[Dragoonlordz]

Ticladesign wrote...

ALSO!
I don't really want Multiplayer.. Seeing someone with a name like 'UBERAWESOME' running around, really kinda kills the whole mood and seriousness of an RPG ¬_¬

Stopped reading right there.

Never played Neverwinter Nights, now have you?

Never heared of a Toolset where you can make your own modules and host them as Multiplayer servers?

NEVER heared of all the NWN persistent worlds, some being online for YEARS now?

Clearly.

There is something like an rpg without MMO on the front of them. Multiplayer RPG's havent started with WoW, and Call of Duty didnt invent how any multiplayer mode should be done.

This thinking is false and blatently ignorant. What irks me most is that the Multiplayer nay sayers dont want others to enjoy any possible DA multiplayer just because they dont like it.

Bioware is the perfect candidate to make a Multiplayer mode in a game with a toolset, without turning it into yet another mmo with the typical mmo crowd.

They removed customisation and stripped the game down a great deal due to 'nay sayers' from DAO release so we already have had to deal with a lot and most of us would rather they went back put things right and invested any time into improving the single player game instead of faffing around with a multiplayer mode.  If you want a multiplayer mode there are a million titles that serve that purpose so why try to force the DA universe to adopt one when you have such a vast amount of choices of other titles which do have it.

Same reason why this exact rumour was also started about ME3 which only recently was shot down by the devs of ME3 and imho rightly so as it didn't seem tbh for me something suitable for the ME universe just like how doesn't feel like DA should have it either story/plot wise.

It's not about if they like it as a gameplay element, it's about fixing DA after the hash job they did with DA2 and spending their time more on single player getting that right next time and the fact there are such a vast amount of other titles you could get your jollies from which do use it. If it was just the case of adding things because some people might like it then why wouldn't they just throw in a Mako too.. Some people would like it (there's always someone who likes stuff like that, somewhere here). 

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 12 avril 2011 - 10:32 .

[Dragoonlordz]

JabbaDaHutt30 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

DA becomes multiplayer, I go bye bye. I play DA (or did prior to DA2 which I did not like) for the epic story, single player cRPG, choices effect the story like those old 'choose your adventure' type books which DAO reminded me of and not 'Dragon Age 2: Jutsu Chronicles' and not multiplayer.

However I do not think they will be so silly as to try to tag in a multiplayer element tbh because I have some faith in their common sense... But saying that if Mike is lead on it god knows what will end up with... I shudder at the thought. TOR should be the only multiplayer game they are working on imho.

Singleplayer is always a pretty horrible medium for conveying story and narrative.

What?

Single player is the best medium for story telling, it's the most personal and most expressive... WoW as example, there is no story that most people care about it's simply about competing with others and gear even though has a story that most people don't care much about. Same with Fable series even though had a multiplayer mode, nothing was added to the story and all people ended up doing was getting freebies from their friends aka money and such from them in trades then playing solo most of time again.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 12 avril 2011 - 10:36 .

[Fangirl17]

Vicious wrote...

Wow, some pathetic posts around here.

Tons of people saying "I DONT CARE HOW GOOD DA3's SINGLE PLAYER IS IS, IF IT HAS OPTIONAL MULTIPLAYER IM NOT BUYING IT!"

It's like you cannot see the difference between having a MP extra and being a MP game.

Exactly. They can't!

I am glad Bioware considers them the vocal minority and doesn't always take them seriously. 90% of the time people around here respond with some stupid knee-jerk reaction at ANYTHING being changed or added, with absolutely no knowledge as to what they are talking about, how it could be implemented, etc. etc.


It's actually funny!

\\

Its not a stupid knee-jerk reaction to change I have reasons for not supporting any type of multiplayer in DA games but I have already stated them im the past and don't care to repeat them or argue about who's right or wrong. 

[Reinveil]

Fangirl17 wrote...

Vicious wrote...

Wow, some pathetic posts around here.

Tons of people saying "I DONT CARE HOW GOOD DA3's SINGLE PLAYER IS IS, IF IT HAS OPTIONAL MULTIPLAYER IM NOT BUYING IT!"

It's like you cannot see the difference between having a MP extra and being a MP game.

Exactly. They can't!

I am glad Bioware considers them the vocal minority and doesn't always take them seriously. 90% of the time people around here respond with some stupid knee-jerk reaction at ANYTHING being changed or added, with absolutely no knowledge as to what they are talking about, how it could be implemented, etc. etc.


It's actually funny!

Its not a stupid knee-jerk reaction to change I have reasons for not supporting any type of multiplayer in DA games but I have already stated them im the past and don't care to repeat them or argue about who's right or wrong. 

Vicious worded his post like a douche, but he's not exactly wrong.  If you take issue with mulitplayer because you feel it siphons time and resources away from the single player campaign and weakens it as a result, that's one thing (and is really a hypothetical anyway until you experience the finished product).  But not supporting a game because a mode you wouldn't be using anyway happens to be in it doesn't make much sense on any level.  That's basically voting with your dollar in favor of less content.  I probably wouldn't get into MP were it implemented in DA, but I understand others enjoy that kind of thing.  As long as the main game is solid, it doesn't really matter one way or the other.  I don't have to play it.

Like it or not, online multiplayer is fast becoming an industry standard (and can be fun if the game is right).

But again...I really, REALLY don't think it's going to show up in Dragon Age.  At least not in the near future.

Modifié par Reinveil, 12 avril 2011 - 10:59 .