Amioran wrote...
Ronin2006 wrote...
The big ME 2 giveaway suggests that perhaps the direction that DA is going in is not the right one. I don't think we
Since people as you are so sure that DA2 is so bad and doesn't work why don't you do a thing?
Stop telling your friends that it sucks and let they decide for themselves. This should not be necessary if people were able to think with their own minds, but, sadly, in this world 80% of people would never be capable of doing a thing like that neither if their life depended on it.
So, why people as you don't stop giving bad word mouth to the game and see what people REALLY think? If you are so sure the game is bad you should not have problems with it, yet, as you see, people continue to tell others the game sucks and this obviously doesn't let the game have a fair judgement.
After you have done this we will see if the game will be really "bad" or not. Want to bet?
Pfft, your post is flatout wrong because it's grounded on a false assumption about me, my intentions, and why I'm here and what I'm doing, and ultimately everything I've ever posted on this forum. I don't even know where to begin on a post as nonsensical, illogical and unfounded as yours, but let's try shall we?
I'm assuming that English is your second language, so perhaps you won't understand a lot of this, but try to read it out.
First, where you have quoted me. You do realise that I am referring specifically to the sales of the game (which appear to be dwindling) and Bioware's subsequent reaction to those dwindling sales? This is something that has occurred irrespective of my own individual opinion on this game and how it plays. Instead, I have taken a fact (declining sales after the first two weeks, plus the ME 2 giveaway) and put in my interpretation of it (the interpretation is my opinion based on fact).
So despite you bringing into question my opinion of this game , it's quite apparent that you can't actually argue on topic by pointing to facts, or the substantive content of my posts, or the basis for my opinion. Instead you simply appear to dislike me, my opinion, and anyone with difference of opinion. This is quite an abhorrent approach to take on these forums and demonstrates an utter lack of reasoning and logic behind anything you bring up.
Now, about the idea that I shouldn't tell people what I think of the game and let them decide for themselves. Wow, just wow. Worst idea of the year right there. Firstly, I hope you realise that the only people outside these forums with whom I tell of my disappointment are people who haven't yet bought the game. There are so many arguments against what you said right there, I'm just going to have to list *some* of them:
- People can certainly make up their own minds on whether they buy a game. However, sometimes they would rather listen to a fellow customer who has bought the game rather than the Bioware/EA marketing team to make up their minds. Further, some customers also don't like to listen to or read a lot of critical reviews as their impartiality is at best, questionable. I have no motivation to tell people that this game is bad other than the fact that I played it, beat it, and honestly felt that it was bad. Remember, word of mouth is often considered the best form of marketing, and for good reason. I personally would much rather hear the opinion of a game through word of mouth than anywhere else. See this? People *can* make up their own minds, and in doing this they often would rather listen to other people that they trust, than any other source. Sure, they can play it for themselves, but they’ll have to buy it first, and many aren’t willing to do that without some other input. To me that’s what a smart buyer does. I pre-ordered this game and have regretted it ever since.
- I know I've mentioned this before somewhere, but this is a free market where money is exchanged for goods and services. Where an individual exchanges money for a good, they want that good to represent a fair trade for their money. Where this doesn't occur, they can either: seek a refund, complain to the other party in the trade (Bioware/EA) and other customers, or do nothing. (They can do other things but this keeps it brief) Now ultimately, as part of a free market with freedom of speech, I have every right to complain about a product I disliked and didn't believe represented a fair trade for my money. I also have every right to tell other customers just how I feel about this product. I, in this instance, am choosing to exercise that right and telling Bioware and other DA 2 customers just how I feel about this product. While you are entitled to dislike that I am doing this, you have no right to question whether I should be allowed to do so.
- The *only* person I have ever actually tried to convince not to buy this game was my cousin. He had in fact bought the first game, loved it and played it over 100 hours, and asked me if he should get the second. I could not in good faith recommend it to him knowing what they had done to the franchise and knowing his taste in games. Now, if he ends up buying DA 2 and liking it, I won't argue with him on the merits of it, I'll just be astonished and downright flabbergasted. I wasn't at all trying to hurt the sales of the game, just trying to warn a fellow customer and relative/friend about what I think would be a good choice. Remember, we all value our hard earned money to some extent and we often offer advice to others, not because we want to harm a company, but because we want people to make the right choices for themselves.
- If you read everything I've typed up in this forum, I've never actually tried to convince someone who has actually played this game that it's bad. I know *some* people like this game, and I have always acknowledged this. However, I will tell these people why I dislike it and respectfully disagree with their stance, but I will not try to force my opinion on them in any way. You make some very strange assumptions here about me and what I am doing and they are all wrong.
[*]God, this is getting long, and I better wrap it up, though believe me there is a lot more I could say when I see a post as insanely poorly considered as yours. Anyway, while I understand you won’t ever agree with me on this game, you do need to face the truth, and that is that many people dislike this game and are expressing their dissatisfaction. Nothing you say or do will change that, or change the way this game has already been received.
[*]Oh and lastly, your 80% statistic is erroneous. People can make up stats to prove anything. 14% of people know that.
[*]Edited a few times for formatting, which still doesn't seem to be right.
Modifié par Ronin2006, 11 avril 2011 - 07:01 .