Ronin2006 wrote...
Amioran wrote...
Ronin2006 wrote...
Pfft, your post is flatout wrong because it's grounded on a false assumption about me, my intentions, and why I'm here and what I'm doing, and ultimately everything I've ever posted on this forum. I don't even know where to begin on a post as nonsensical, illogical and unfounded as yours, but let's try shall we?
Since I assume english is your first language you should know that the subject "you" can be used as both a general and personal term, isn't it? Since if you had used a bit your brain it was obvious that the former was the case your "rant" would have not had much meaning after, isn't it?
As for your "points", I already replied to them to other users. You would want to read them, I don't like repeating myself.
.Ronin2006 wrote...
Oh and lastly, your 80% statistic is erroneous. People can make up stats to prove anything. 14% of people know that.
In fact I erred on the safe side. As I already said if more people were able to think with their own mind religions would never exists, and religious people are much more than 80% of the population.
Happy?
The fact you interpreted my very own interpretation of "you" in in the specific rather than general sense doesn't actually change anything within the ensuing argument itself. However, this is irrelevant, and I'm not going to delve further into this line of debate. It's overall quite clear that you seem hell bent on defending this game regardless of what other people do and say about it.
I've presented my argument, you have presented yours. But you know what? You're wrong, and I'm still going to tell people my opinion of this game, and I have every right to do so. Others will continue to do so, and your attempt at stopping this suggests that you are incredibly stupid and stubborn. Your attempts at arguing with people here are an exercise in futility.
People *do* have the ability to make their minds up themselves, and you telling people that they should play the game first, is just as bad as others telling them that they shouldn't buy the game anyway. If you want true liberty, then people will make up their mind however they like. If that's by playing the game first, or by listening to others who have played the game, that's their choice. It's ironic that you advocate liberty and freedom of choice and opinion, yet you clearly dismiss other people's approaches to that if they aren't in line with yours.
QFT. Seriously, Amioran, I have to ask... WHATS YOUR PROBLEM??
I find it rather absurd that you're equating your opinion on word-of-mouth for game sales to the argument of religion vs. non-religion, as well as "tyranny of the masses" (your view) vs. Anarchist freedom.
Before I say anything else, seriously, if your friends would kill you over a simple error in judgement, I think its time to get new friends
Back to my other topic, honestly, this is the thing I find ironic about hardcore, religion-bashing Atheists and Anarchists (I'm assuming you're both based on your comments so far in this thread). The uber-hardcore Atheists/Anarchists are just as bad as the Bible Thumpers in imposing their view on others, despite calling themselves champions of liberty and freedom. You say you want people to choose for themselves, yet also the choice for others to "choose for themselves" when asked for an opinion is just... another imposed opinion. You're forcing the person in question to make a decision without any strong imput, therefore limiting their ability to make an informed choice. In this example, either opinion, "DA2 SUCKS!" or "DA2 ROCKS!", is better than "decide for yourself." Absolute Anarchy doesn't work. Some semblance of Order is needed because human beings in general look out for themselves, therefore some freedoms need to be given up for the safety and well-being of the people... the Social Contract... Thomas Hobbes. In this case, if someone legitimately needs advice, having them decide for themselves doesn't make them better, as they're essentially gambling with their hard-earned money (a dangerous habit). An informed opinion will help them decide, whatever decision they make, and make them better for it as they are able to truly take responsibility for their choice.
Just to let you know, I'm against organized religion as well, even if I'm agnostic rather than atheist. I believe in supporting gay marriage, and evolution. However I don't use my beliefs as a weapon to bash the masses under control by the powers that be or to explain some reason that we are chained to majority opinions and can't think for ourselves. I find a lot of bashing on religion in this aspect to be inaccurate and un-called for. There are many people in the world who are religious and still open-minded. I know several people like this personally. What's worse is that you, Amioran, are comparing the existence (or lack thereof) of divine beings to what sales for Dragon Age 2 are like. Honestly, its pretty sickening, first off, that you'd equate the two subject, and its pretty inaccurate.
(There is no definitive proof of the existence or nonexistence of God, but sales reports and reviews for Dragon Age 2 are very definitive of the majority opinion of this game). And the fact that you're using your skewed views to impose your opinion of the game on others is also disgusting. I know a couple of anarchists who would be appalled by your behavior.
My point: you don't need to bring your personal beliefs and politics into this discussion. Its a discussion about the comparison between two events which may or may not have parallels. I know I seem like a hypocrite myself for touching on religion or politics, but if you read, I only went as far as to show you how unreasonable and unecessary your turning this into a societal debate has been.
And if you've just been saying what you've been saying because you're desperate to get more sales for DA2, and are outraged at the poor reception of a game you clearly love, well... thats just sad <_<
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