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[LyndseyCousland]

Did the differences between the games concerning Merrill irritate anyone? Personality, looks, voice, etc?
Personally I'm glad my final Warden wasn't the Dalish elf so did not meet her.

BTW: I understand in the Dalish elf origin story she'd have been worried about Tamlen so not liable to be so chirpy.

[PseudoEthnic]

Merrill was a blank slate in Origins, so her "change" didn't really bother me.

[LyndseyCousland]

I'm not saying you're wrong but explain how she was a blank slate, please?

[PseudoEthnic]

LyndseyCousland wrote...

I'm not saying you're wrong but explain how she was a blank slate, please?

She had no character depth to her during the DE origin. She was a bit arrogant(which you see plenty of that in DA2), but otherwise, she was transparent. Her, along with everyone else in the DE origin.

[LobselVith8]

Merrill changed from Origins to DA2. It's evident in the personality she had in Origins where she was serious and composed to DA2 where she's having trouble being social with Hawke because she's not used to dealing with humans (which isn't the case when Origins Merrill meets Duncan). Anders changed from Awakening to DA2 as well. I have to say that I liked DA2 Merrill.

[bleetman]

LobselVith8 wrote...

It's evident in the personality she had in Origins where she was serious and composed to DA2 where she's having trouble being social with Hawke because she's not used to dealing with humans (which isn't the case when Origins Merrill meets Duncan).

Heh, indeed.

DA1: "Andara atish'an, Duncan of the Grey Wardens. I am Merrill, the keepers apprentice"

DA2: "I'm so sorry, I didn't ask your name. Unless... it's not rude to ask a human their name, is it? I'm Merrill, which you probably already knew. I'm rambling, sorry"

About the only thing which seems remotely similiar is her fascination with the ruins and the mirror, wishing she'd had more time to stay and study it.

[Merilsell]

Err, not that I liked her much in the Dalish origins in the first place but turning the serious and stern Merrill into such a babbling, annoying idiot for the sake of teh cute let me facepalm hard.

Seriously.

[bleetman]

Merilsell wrote...

a babbling, annoying idiot

BLASPHEMY.

Modifié par bleetman, 11 avril 2011 - 06:01 .

[Zjarcal]

bleetman wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

a babbling, annoying idiot

BLASPHEMY.

You're doing it wrong, you should've posted a cute Merrill related image... 



By jessique94

http://jessique94.deviantart.com/

RE OP

I didn't even feel that big of a change to be honest. Merrill's awkwardness mostly came from being amongst humans. In the Dalish origin she's amongst her clan and thus acts very differently than what we see in DA2.

And really, there was so little we saw of her in the origin that I can't say I actually knew her, so I never really felt a personality change.

As for her looks, I love the change. WUV IT!!!!!!! :wub:

Modifié par Zjarcal, 11 avril 2011 - 06:29 .

[jlb524]

That comic made my day.

[Lenimph]

 Merrill was so confusing in DA:O :mellow:Her voice actor had this really harsh tone to her voice that made her come off as a bit... mean.:?But then she gives the warden bedroom eyes when the warden leaves.

[bleetman]

Zjarcal wrote...

You're doing it wrong, you should've posted a cute Merrill related image... 

I have much to learn

[XX55XX]

The inconsistencies can be forgiven since Merrill was obviously a stock character in DAO.

Modifié par XX55XX, 11 avril 2011 - 07:26 .

[LobselVith8]

Merilsell wrote...

Err, not that I liked her much in the Dalish origins in the first place but turning the serious and stern Merrill into such a babbling, annoying idiot for the sake of teh cute let me facepalm hard.

Seriously.

I honestly never understand why people make this argument. Being bad socially doesn't mean someone is an idiot. Merrill had culture shock in a human city as a member of the Dalish and she was somewhat of an introvert. I don't think you can compare being socially inept to a lack of knowledge - she demonstrates her intellect and her proficiency with magic numerous times, as well as re-constructing a two thousand year old elven device with a piece of glass.

[LyndseyCousland]

Zjarcal wrote...

bleetman wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

a babbling, annoying idiot

BLASPHEMY.

You're doing it wrong, you should've posted a cute Merrill related image... 



By jessique94

http://jessique94.deviantart.com/

RE OP

I didn't even feel that big of a change to be honest. Merrill's awkwardness mostly came from being amongst humans. In the Dalish origin she's amongst her clan and thus acts very differently than what we see in DA2.

And really, there was so little we saw of her in the origin that I can't say I actually knew her, so I never really felt a personality change.

As for her looks, I love the change. WUV IT!!!!!!! :wub:

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! @ Comic
Also, what you've said makes sense.

[Torax]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Err, not that I liked her much in the Dalish origins in the first place but turning the serious and stern Merrill into such a babbling, annoying idiot for the sake of teh cute let me facepalm hard.

Seriously.

I honestly never understand why people make this argument. Being bad socially doesn't mean someone is an idiot. Merrill had culture shock in a human city as a member of the Dalish and she was somewhat of an introvert. I don't think you can compare being socially inept to a lack of knowledge - she demonstrates her intellect and her proficiency with magic numerous times, as well as re-constructing a two thousand year old elven device with a piece of glass.

There is incosistency from the character she was in Origins to what she is now by attitude, demeanor & even how the race looks of course. I think they did a good job of just moving on to what hte character needed to be. I also like how her default outfit was a slight throw back to the Tevinter robe she was wearing via the shoulders. I think the writers may have played the naive card a little too much but that is what they wanted. She does seem to get distracted in conversations though. "wait what were we talking about?" "I can? I mean yes of course I can."

[sydified]

The Merrill in DA:O was so serious, a stickler for rules, seemingly intelligent, and just plain boring, which is WAYY different from Merrill in DA2 (cute, sweet, ignorant, naive, not opposed to blood magic). It's like they're two different people.
It would bug me, but the Merrill in DA2 is obviously better than the one in DA:O, so the changes are good in my book!

[Chiramu]

I don't know why everyone keeps calling her "cute", Merril isn't a child.

If you check out her boob size in DA2 she has massive boobs for an elf. Calling an adult "cute" is plainly a bit of an insult.

[Kawamura]

I also imagine part of the difference comes just from who she's interacting with.

In the DE origin, you're both part of the same group. She's talking to you as an in-group member. Mind you, she can be at the edge of the group, but it's not at all like talking to humans, who are both not her clan and not her race. It's a big difference and I would expect her personality to be very, very different just from that fact.

[Knight of Dane]

Since when is it only children that can be cute?
I've seen plenty of cute penguins, and they have been adults.

[Fieryeel]

I have a lingering feeling by Act 3, Merrill's just pretending to be naive.

When I mentioned about thieves and robbers in Lowtown, she replied, "The people here are so nice! Always sticking their hands in your pockets, I wonder why the Dalish weren't so friendly."

But her tone and expression had me thinking she meant it as sarcasm.

[Chiramu]

Knight of Dane wrote...

Since when is it only children that can be cute?
I've seen plenty of cute penguins, and they have been adults.

Animals are not people. Only adult Fairy penguins are cute btw .

You only call an adult "cute" if you think they are attractive. 

[Jorrkit]

It's been my experience that the word "cute" can apply to damn near anything when wielded by a member of the fairer sex.

[Maria Caliban]

Chiramu wrote...

I don't know why everyone keeps calling her "cute", Merril isn't a child.

People call her cute because she's cute. Being a child is not a necessary prerequisite for being cute.

[Chiramu]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Chiramu wrote...

I don't know why everyone keeps calling her "cute", Merril isn't a child.

People call her cute because she's cute. Being a child is not a necessary prerequisite for being cute.

The correct term would be "sweet" she has a very sweet personality.
She's not a child.